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Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« on: March 18, 2021, 09:58:09 AM »
I'd like to know pros & cons of each to help me make best choice.
Disease resistance, taste, productivity, tree size.  I don't mind trimming & size is least important.

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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2021, 10:15:48 AM »
All reports have seemed to indicate Peach Cobbler is superior in flavor.  Is there any reason to even consider growing Juicy Peach?  That would be my question.
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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2021, 10:16:29 AM »
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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2021, 10:34:18 AM »
Last year, a friend gave me a few mangos with hint of peach flavor, kinda small size, very good taste.
She doesn't know variety, was her dads tree. 

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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2021, 12:02:46 PM »
More bad info. 

Juicy Peach definitely has a peach flavor.  It produced at a younger age than Peach Cobbler for me (ok size crop for backyard tree but not a super loaded crop). The tree has a decent shaped, moderately vigorous growth habit.

Peach Cobbler, when perfectly ripened,  taste like a juicy tangerine.  It is an upright and spreading vigorous grower that seems to take longer to produce (plan on at least five years planted from a 3 gal).

Once ripe, both varieties have a short shelf life due to their soft, melting and juicy flesh.  On flavor alone, Peach Cobbler but Juicy Peach is no slouch.
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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2021, 12:29:29 PM »
I definitely got a Peach flavor from both of these guys! Wasn't expecting to actually taste that flavor. Very impressed by both. Have a Peach Cobbler right now will add Juicy Peach.

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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2021, 12:41:48 PM »
There’s a long list of trees I’d plant before either if the conversation was about south Florida. They’re both better suited for California.

Peach Cobbler is a lot better tasting but has trouble flowering here.


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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2021, 12:52:49 PM »
Glenn has a peach aroma and flavor, like mango mixed with peaches to me. Wish it had a little more acidity to it though. 

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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2021, 01:52:48 PM »
Glenn has a peach aroma and flavor, like mango mixed with peaches to me. Wish it had a little more acidity to it though.

To bland/mild and easily washed out.
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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2021, 01:55:13 PM »
I definitely got a Peach flavor from both of these guys! Wasn't expecting to actually taste that flavor. Very impressed by both. Have a Peach Cobbler right now will add Juicy Peach.

Hahahah.a...I have more Peach Cobbler fruit than you can imagine.  Never have I gotten a hint of peach flavor.
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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2021, 02:46:19 PM »
When Peach Cobbler fruits are picked late and are what I consider "overripe", the flavor reminds me of canned peaches in syrup. Generally, this is too sweet for me. Properly ripe fruits have no peach flavor. Occasionally, I eat a fruit somewhere in between normal tangerine flavor and canned peach and those are very good.

Peach Cobbler is a very vigorous grower at my house. So far, it has been very consistent flowering. It has a good crop every year since it began fruiting and has good fungus resistance. The fruit stay green so this might be good as a front yard tree for theft prevention. 

Juicy Peach is precocious. Fruiting earlier and restricting nitrogen when mature will make Juicy Peach much easier of the two to manage size.

I definitely got a Peach flavor from both of these guys! Wasn't expecting to actually taste that flavor. Very impressed by both. Have a Peach Cobbler right now will add Juicy Peach.

Hahahah.a...I have more Peach Cobbler fruit than you can imagine.  Never have I gotten a hint of peach flavor.
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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2021, 03:16:39 PM »
When Peach Cobbler fruits are picked late and are what I consider "overripe", the flavor reminds me of canned peaches in syrup. Generally, this is too sweet for me. Properly ripe fruits have no peach flavor. Occasionally, I eat a fruit somewhere in between normal tangerine flavor and canned peach and those are very good.

Peach Cobbler is a very vigorous grower at my house. So far, it has been very consistent flowering. It has a good crop every year since it began fruiting and has good fungus resistance. The fruit stay green so this might be good as a front yard tree for theft prevention. 

Juicy Peach is precocious. Fruiting earlier and restricting nitrogen when mature will make Juicy Peach much easier of the two to manage size.

I definitely got a Peach flavor from both of these guys! Wasn't expecting to actually taste that flavor. Very impressed by both. Have a Peach Cobbler right now will add Juicy Peach.

Hahahah.a...I have more Peach Cobbler fruit than you can imagine.  Never have I gotten a hint of peach flavor.

Same with my Juicy Peach. Mine arent holding that many this year due to the frost.

My Peach Cobbler flowers like mad.  First year holding post frost fruit...lets see how they fare.  It was planted May 2017 as a 7 gal. and already needs to be reduced in size.
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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2021, 06:30:16 PM »
Glenn has a peach aroma and flavor, like mango mixed with peaches to me. Wish it had a little more acidity to it though.

Glenn is on the bottom list for me in SoCal -- nothing special at all.

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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2021, 06:34:28 PM »
Peach Cobbler is very reliable every year and no fungus on flowers. Taste excellent but short shelf life. Toptrop sold me as Edward, and luckily it's Glenn.

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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2021, 09:39:07 PM »
I'd like to know pros & cons of each to help me make best choice.
Disease resistance, taste, productivity, tree size.  I don't mind trimming & size is least important.

Thanks in advance,
Ed
Just from reading the comments on this thread. I vote for juicy Peach.It's precocious manageable size and hopefully  longer shelf life with no slouch flavor gives it the edge. It seems as though more folks say that juicy Peach has a peach flavor. You just bought a orange sherbet. I think you should go with the peach flavor In my humble opinion. :)
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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2021, 10:23:29 PM »
3 yrs ago, taste was the only parameter for me to rush to the nurseries and buy a tree but i am learning that productivity and disease resistance are equally important. One because i have limited space and i could always multigraft a less productive variety to a prolific variety tree instead of giving a less productive tree a prime space and other reason is i don't spray and will not spray so it will help if a variety is innately disease resistant.

I have eaten both. Taste wise peach cobbler is more complex and richer tasting regardless of whether peach flavor is there or not. In my garden i only have a peach cobbler tree. Was planted 3 yrs ago as a 7g. It is 10ft by 6ft without pruning, i mean i did cut branches in the middle of the canopy to open it for sun, air in 2019 but left it alone in 2020. Tree is very healthy, no disease issues. First flowered in 2019 , 5-6 branches flowered but only 2 fruits set, fruits were excellent tasting. In 2020 it had one or two branches with flowers but did not set any fruit. This year it has exploded in flowers from every branch and fruit set is very good. Whether all fruits will hold until maturity or not time will tell.

So for taste it is no doubt an above par taste,  in the same league as seacrest and orange sherbet for my taste buds( if you like the tang flavor, the sharp citrusy syrupy flavor with sweetness you will like this) , in terms of productivity - if this trend continues every year this might be a productive tree but i am not sure if it will skip this heavy set next year. For disease resistance it has stood up, i don't spray anything (my wife insisted on trichoderma this year for flowers as a precautionary approach but i don't think it will make any difference). Tree size is least important to me as well but i do have Glenn 10ft away on west and Mallika 10 ft  away on east of it so I can let it go a bit taller but not wider. Plus i hope this heavy fruit set this year will slow down it's vegetative growth in 2021..

I tasted Juicy peach in 2019 and may be in 2020 as well from Hidden Acres, they were a bit later in season as far as i remember, perhaps after the Carries and Pickerings were done but before Honey Kiss. Since you can actually go around and check trees with fruits hanging to see how the tree is growing , fruiting in Hidden Acres, i remember that the fruits were heavy set there but taste didn't impress me enough to rush and get a tree...perhaps i will try again this year and see..

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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2021, 11:38:06 PM »
I believe that Juicy Peach was named as such because if you use your imagination it looks a tiny bit peach like and it’s very very juicy. It isn’t in the taste class of LZ or ST but it is a really good enjoyable experience. I have a 6 year old by my front door that is beautiful and big and full of fruit right now. I noticed when it was young that it grows very fast. I have another 2 in shady spots that have zero fruit and did not flower since they were planted 4 years ago.
I have 4 Peach Cobblers that are also in ground since 2017. This year 1 tree had 3 panicles. These were the first ones ever. This tree is now holding 5 babies and hopefully none will fall off. I have never tasted a Peach Cobbler. If they stay on and I get to taste one this year and it doesn’t knock my socks off I’ll probably convert 3 of the 4. This year because of poor performance at my house I’m thinking of converting 4 Fruit Punch and 4 Coconut Cream and 3 Phoenix and 2 Venus and 1 Harvest Moon. I will probably wait till the end of next season to execute this plan because it is extremely possible that I myself caused the problem by extreme pruning last year and by giving nitrogen and by watering my grass during our drought earlier this season with sprinklers that got the trees too. So I will probably not prune much this year and not feed them nitrogen. And hand water the grass from the end of the rainy season till flowering is done. So next year I may start converting almost 20 trees. And I know exactly what they will be converted to!

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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2021, 09:06:45 AM »
Thank you all for great replies.  Peach Cobbler sounds like the winner for me.
I'll get a 7gal if avail.

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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2021, 09:24:24 AM »
I have tasted both, and peach cobbler is a delicious fruit. So good that I have planted one and it’s about 6ft and has a lot of baby fruit on it. Juicy peach is about as good a a glenn and since I have a big glenn already planted there seemed no need to plant it.
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Re: Which mango to plant- peach cobbler or juicy peach?
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2021, 08:13:41 PM »
Peach Cobbler- 3gal last perfect one they had is now planted in my yard :)
Orange Sherbet planted couple days ago already put out new leaves!

Good forum here.
Thank you

 

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