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Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« on: June 27, 2013, 11:52:01 PM »
The New CRFG mag. has a short with very little infor on Mango's developed for Southern Calif. area and like area's. Article written by a partner of Southern California Plant Breeders is all they tell you, they show a few named var. like  waxed mango,pineapple mango,mango #30,mango #12,mango #5. They say if you have Haass  avocado or lemon trees growing near you you can grow these!!

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2013, 01:29:30 AM »
Scott, now that's what I'm talking about. If we/you could find cold tolerant mangos that ripen in the winter, then I think we could say that we would be on our way to having mangoes 24/7. I don't know if this is possible, but I wish it were and something tells me that it is or will be possible.
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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2013, 04:19:47 AM »
Winter mangos have very poor flavor.Just dont have the summer taste
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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2013, 12:10:35 PM »
From what I have experienced so far, the SoCal cold has not been an issue for any mango variety.

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2013, 01:10:47 PM »
From what I have experienced so far, the SoCal cold has not been an issue for any mango variety.

I read that article and it looked more like a tim thompson promo ad. Cuban007 took the words out of my mouth I've never had a Florida mango tree died during the winter. I think Tim has to focus on flavor because his Timotayo is not a very good mango. I have no idea how he convince la Verne nursery to propagate that variety.

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2013, 11:12:58 PM »
Your the man I wanted to hear from Joe, I thought it sounded to good to be true!Thanks ;)

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2013, 12:54:49 PM »
Your the man I wanted to hear from Joe, I thought it sounded to good to be true!Thanks ;)

My friend's Timotayos are about 4-5 weeks from ripening I'll post pics and give a review. Actually, the images of his new varieties look great and I wish Tim the best of luck but it's hard to compete with south Florida.

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2013, 07:45:22 PM »
I am growing Mallika, and Keitt mango trees in Escondido, California.  And I want to get a Nam Doc Mai, and and Alphonso.  I could be wrong but my impression is that mangos are reasonably cold hardy.  However I live up on a hillside surrounded by avocado groves.   I live above the "frost line" -- warm air rises.

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2013, 07:55:51 PM »
I am growing Mallika, and Keitt mango trees in Escondido, California.  And I want to get a Nam Doc Mai, and and Alphonso.  I could be wrong but my impression is that mangos are reasonably cold hardy.  However I live up on a hillside surrounded by avocado groves.   I live above the "frost line" -- warm air rises.

Hi Richard

Those are nice mangos and you shouldnt have any problems in terms of hardiness. I have fruited all of them here in La Habra. How close are you to the ocean?

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2013, 12:58:58 AM »
From what I have experienced so far, the SoCal cold has not been an issue for any mango variety.

Cuban007, very interesting, If you're right, and South California has mangos year round, then I don't see why we can't have mangos year round in South Florida.

I'd like to find out more about this, because with all the biotechnology we have today, I'm close to 100% certain that this is not impossible.
If the U. Florida can modify peaches so that they can grow in South Florida...
If scientists can transfer a glowing gene from a fish to a kitten...
Then, having mangos 24/7 (including winter) is far from impossible.

May the search/endeavor begin.
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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2013, 10:07:29 PM »
Hey Joe, how many different kinds of Mango's are you growing and fruiting in La Habra? Can you rate your varieties as far as hardiness and are any disease problems with any variety? Thanks Joe.

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2013, 12:29:59 AM »
I think you can if  you pick the right cultivars. A combination of early and late fruiting cultivars should give you that however I don't know much about the fruiting cycles in Florida other than they are available in the Summer. Here in SoCal everything is late compared to Florida standards. You can definitely get mangoes year round if you have mango trees in Florida and California. I am working on it. ;)

From what I have experienced so far, the SoCal cold has not been an issue for any mango variety.

Cuban007, very interesting, If you're right, and South California has mangos year round, then I don't see why we can't have mangos year round in South Florida.

I'd like to find out more about this, because with all the biotechnology we have today, I'm close to 100% certain that this is not impossible.
If the U.F. can modify peaches so that they can grow in South Florida...
If scientist can transfer a glowing gene from a fish to a kitten...
Then, having mangos 24/7 (including winter) is far from impossible.

May the search/endeavor begin.

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2013, 12:42:16 AM »
Cuban007, your optimism is contageous, like my old high school gym teacher would say, 'I love it.'

Respectfully speaking, sometimes it's just wonderful to find like minded people, good luck.
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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2013, 12:47:31 AM »
You know how many have told me that Tropical Fruit trees don't grow in California??? Yet you drive down certain neighborhoods of Mexicans and Asians and they have figured it out. With the right care and attention, one can grow almost anything in SoFL and SoCal.

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2013, 10:26:28 AM »
WOW cold hardy mangos would be great!!!  ;D

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2013, 11:32:54 AM »
Mangoprofessor = Tim Thompson, he stated he lives in Camarillo and has been experimenting with mangoes for years. I need to try some of these mangoes out, whenever they are available to the public.

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=21.msg87198#msg87198
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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2013, 12:35:57 PM »
Finally!  Some patented mangoes for the West Coast!

This story ran in the Ventura County Star newspaper a couple days ago... from a quick glance it appeared the three traits that they were selecting for were mildew resistance, cold resistance and taste.  I understand Manila has been doing fine in that area, but it will be nice to add some variety.

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2013, 01:10:42 PM »
Mangoprofessor = Tim Thompson, he stated he lives in Camarillo and has been experimenting with mangoes for years. I need to try some of these mangoes out, whenever they are available to the public.

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=21.msg87198#msg87198

I going to try to arrange a CRFG tour. This means he is the creator of Timotayo which I will be featuring in my mango tasting....see if I can get him to come over to La Habra in September 

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2013, 06:54:29 PM »
That would be great, JF, but don't forget you guys - around Thanksgiving (according to his website - the one that ShaneEatWell posted above - http://www.socalplantbreeders.com/)
he has a mango tasting event at his place where we get to taste what he has grown and rate it!

I'm definitely planning to go to that!


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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2013, 08:29:24 PM »
That would be great, JF, but don't forget you guys - around Thanksgiving (according to his website - the one that ShaneEatWell posted above - http://www.socalplantbreeders.com/)
he has a mango tasting event at his place where we get to taste what he has grown and rate it!

I'm definitely planning to go to that!


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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2013, 11:58:47 PM »
Thanks Shaneatwell, for the link's. I sent him and e-mail, I want to taste those mango's! ;) 8)

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2013, 12:40:41 AM »
From a CRFG mailer on the same subject:
http://www.socalplantbreeders.com/
http://www.meetthe112th.com/latest-news/camarillo-mango-expert-plans-to-patent-10-varieties-designed-to-thrive-in-ventura-county/

Amazing, it seems that it won't be long before California, Florida, Texas and other states have mangoes in the winter months and year round (24/7).
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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2013, 02:59:41 AM »
Here in Phoenix area we are growing and fruiting Kent, Valenica Pride, Alphonso, Coconut Cream, Ugly Betty, and Zill. We had 5 night in the 20s this winter. They can easily be done in CA.

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Re: Atten CRFGer's New cold tolerant Mango's
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2013, 03:59:16 PM »
This years Timotayo. It will be tested against an Edward,Haden, Glenn and LZ in the next week or so




 

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