The Tropical Fruit Forum

Quote from: D-Grower on April 19, 2025, 12:30:59 PM

Was thinking it was likely che. Thanks!

The ones I bought from a member were arbutus for sure. The tree pictured I was trying to ID for a local lady was sold to her as strawberry tree by a local.

Was it from an Etsy retailer?  I've found some of them are clownish and I've received Santol instead of Imbe, Coffee instead of Peanut Butter fruit when I got my first trees.  Odd how these "mistakes" always involve lower-costing trees...

edit: nevermind re-read your post, you said from a member here, I'm not sure how someone can mistake this thorny tree for thornless arbutus...

Looking at pics online it looks a lot like Che. Is that a possibility?

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Well that'd work too. Tried from seeds once and did get several sprouts. Unfortunately rats must have thought they were good snacks and gnawed them down.

A buddy of mine is looking to buy bulk bay leaf trees for his nursery. I myself might be interested as well if the price is right. Is there anyone here or know of anyone that mass produces them for wholesale? Especially anyone in the FL panhandle or otherwise in the state or nearby states. However would consider mail order too.

Thanks for any help! DG

I might be able to post seed pics next fall. I did plant some seeds of the suspected malus species. Only got two sprouts but lost one. Maybe more will pop up eventually. Fruit was pretty sour and bitter also very hard flesh. I ate quite a few. It would be helpful to look at some pics of the inner fruit of both genus to get a better idea compared to these fruits. Seeds were in an internal capsule at the core. Probably 5-8 seeds in most. Guess similar to an apple(malus). Not sure what a hawthorn looks like inside. I know I've seen many pics of heavily lobed hawthorn and mayhaw leaves but also some not lobed but widely serrated similar to these. However looking at the fruit bottom again in the pic it does look malus. No little frills coming off the bottom. Malus may in fact be correct. I'm technically outside the recorded range of them on maps I saw on angustifolia at least. However not very far. Totally could be here.

Picked a bunch of them yesterday. I'll get a pic of the seeds and post it soon. Seed appears to be consistent shape with another type of hawthorn I've found here but the other type has much bigger fruit and seeds. Here's the other type. Different leaf shape but similar fruit and seed characteristics.






There's a 3rd variety I've found and possibly a 4th(need to see it leaf out and flower). The 3rd type grows right on the waters edge and the berry is also small and leaf shape is very different. Wasn't able to see them ripe though. The 2nd variety pictured here is yellow when ripe. It must be noted that the variety in the original post is not deciduous and holds leaves year round while the others do not.

Pic of the fresh flowers

Quote from: D-Grower on March 12, 2025, 02:43:11 PM

Guess it doesn't total matter but these were whip and tongue grafts. Usually do cleft but recently feel like whip and tongue can be better sometimes.

Anyone willing to sell some rolls of the real grafting tape?

I agree about the whip and tongue it is my new favorite graft even if no one else on the forum seems to be giving it much love. It is fast with high cambium contact and good success rates for me. I also like a side/veneer graft with a tongue when the scion is smaller than the stock. I pre-wrap my scions with the cheap old budding tape and then wrap the union with flagging tape. I have not covered with foil, yet.

I also took the time to make a whip graft jig which has really sped me up. It keeps the angle exactly the same and helps make smooth cuts as I build confidence. Over 2 dozen annona grafts using the jig and all seem to be pushing so far.

That's a really awesome tool you made there. I could see the advantage of that for sure. I'm gonna have to make one of those someday. I bet you have a real money making idea there.

Just did 5 pear grafts and 3 plum grafts. Getting into mid 70s during the day and 40s to 50s at night. Wrapped entirely with the real graft tape. No cover with foil or anything yet. With temps that high during the day and likely hotter into 80s within the next month should I foil them?

Hello whomever can answer!

I was wondering a few things about grafting things such as plums, pear, and apples, etc. When I graft especially using the cheapo plastic grafting tape not the good buddy tape I generally fully wrap the whole scion and also cover it with something to protect it from light and our day time heat. I've saw a few people recently not covering the entire scion(using real buddy tape) but only wrapping the physical grafted area. So the scion isn't fully wrapped to keep moisture in but still appear to get success. Only generally 2 buds or so above the graft. Maybe that helps not having much to loose moisture? Also not protecting it from sun or heat with something to block it such as a paper bag or aluminum foil etc. Maybe because the whole scion isn't wrapped? Or possibly if fully wrapped or that real buddy tape isn't as bad in those conditions as that plastic film wrapping? What do y'all think about this and what are your personal thoughts?

Thanks! DG