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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which garcinia...
« on: November 03, 2025, 10:05:41 PM »
Idk if lemon drop would be the best choice but it’s pretty doable in a container. My largest plant is 4 1/2 ft tall and it has around 10-15 fruit on it at the moment.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia sp Brazilian cherapu
« on: November 03, 2025, 09:53:58 PM »
These are a little more vigorous in growth than other Garcinia I think.  Most young Garcinia I grow maybe put on a leaf set a year maybe two, this one puts two or three.  Nothing crazy but noticeable.

Yea seems like every 4 months or so it flushes new growth, which given the climate conditions is not too bad. Seashore and sp. squat are the most vigorous ones I have seen but I’d put these in the tier below them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia sp Brazilian cherapu
« on: November 01, 2025, 05:51:36 PM »
Brought them indoors last week where they will stay for another 5 months. Tallest one at this point is 2ft tall.

Moved them all into 5 gallon pots over the summer. Pretty care free as far as Garcinias go.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chinese mangosteen?
« on: July 17, 2025, 03:08:53 PM »
Didn’t order the Chinese mangosteen but I’ll add my experience . Received a tree so guess it’s just up to chance at customs.  Lost 90% of its leaves so not in amazing shape but it is alive as of right now.






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Borifruittrees on Etsy has them for $60 2-3ft. I recieved mine last week. They are shipped from Puerto Rico. Ive bought 5 or 6 trees from PR to Cali and they are always in good shape

Did this work out for you? I bought 2 mangosteen trees from Borifruittrees but the plants that arrived don't look like Garcinia mangostana to me. Looking at some of the pictures that people who purchased it posted in their reviews, some of those plants don't look like true mangosteen either. They sounded unsure themselves when I brought it to their attention.

I bought one from them as well recently and definitely does not look like mangosteen, guessing it was lemondrop. Same thing when I got back into this hobby a couple years ago and bought a mangosteen from tropicalplantae, it flowers and fruits but it’s a lemondrop.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia sp Brazilian cherapu
« on: April 10, 2025, 09:52:02 PM »
2yr update.

Most plants have branched out at least once or twice at this point. Does seem to push growth more slowly than it did the first year and a half, some have not pushed new leaves since September. Of the 5 seeds I started with all are still alive, temps stay at about 80 and humidity in the mid 40s. Will try transitioning 1 or 2 of them into sunlight this year to see how they do.









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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria Madness and Eugenia Mania
« on: March 23, 2025, 02:41:36 PM »
Don’t have many Eugenia’s but I am hoping sweet blackberry is one of the good ones. Got the seeds from Bellamy in January 2023 so plant is probably right at 2yrs old, 3 others started with random dieback and never recovered. Temp went down to 32.5f (±2) on Friday morning and seems to have held up fine with only a little leaf burn.







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Really hope this one will bounce back but not looking good. Cut off most of the leaves now looks like it didn’t get water for a while. Not had much luck when they can like this but can always hold out hope. Super rare one too cost me a heap


That's tough, sadly I'll have to agree with not having much luck. I've never been able to get one to recover once they start looking like that, where the top leaves are splitting away.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia discussion thread
« on: July 29, 2024, 09:01:48 PM »
Nothing super exciting but thinking my regular lemon drop is starting to set fruit.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia sp Brazilian cherapu
« on: March 31, 2024, 12:08:26 AM »
Updated photos on some of these at the 1yr mark.






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I'd go with HLG grow lights. Brand new they're pretty expensive so when I was getting my setup started again a few years ago I just bought a bunch used on Ebay. I probably have 10,000 - 12,000 hours on the lights since I bought them and no issues.

Spider Farmer is also a decent cheaper option but not as good as HLG's lights.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia discussion thread
« on: January 29, 2024, 09:48:10 PM »
Got some germination on garcinia sp. “squat”

Anyone else growing this one?

Bought some seeds in September, have 2 plants pushing their 3rd set of leaves. One of the faster growing varieties in my experience.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia discussion thread
« on: January 15, 2024, 03:49:34 PM »
Believe my lemon drop is producing its first flowers, not the easiest to see in the photos but pretty sure that is a flower bud. Tree is right at 4ft tall.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with my dwarf carambola
« on: December 10, 2023, 12:23:49 AM »
Thank you so much! When you say, "do not let it hold fruit," can you elaborate? I.e. with cannabis which is phototropic, it will stay vegetative until you go move the light schedule from 18/6 to 12/12. Or are you saying that flowers are to be pruned to force the tree to focus on leaves and general health?


Mine is also under 18/6 and the tree flowers constantly, if I changed it to 12/12 I'm sure this would still be the case. Leave the flowers alone but if you see any that start to develop fruit pluck those off so the tree can focus on vegetative growth.


That is a parallel to cannabis - just because you can flower it, doesn't mean you should.
Yes, my small tree set around 50 - 75 fruit over the summer and although it thinned out most of them itself I still had to remove about ~15 or so larger fruit that set because there's no way the branches could have supported that.

Am I inducing fruit with the light schedule of 18/6? I am completely amenable to building the tree's happiness and health before fruiting. She has recovered very well from the dunking and I am impressed. Your tree looks amazing! Some of the mites are at the very top of the tree which is thick stem, where it was beheaded, so I can't really prune that without shocking the tree. I will approach the situation with the Safer insect killing soap - thank you very much for your input!
I only prune mine because of the close proximity of all the other plants I have but you should be good just to spray. Make sure to get the undersides of the leaves well and hopefully they'll be gone within the next 1-2 weeks. Best of luck.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with my dwarf carambola
« on: December 09, 2023, 09:50:48 PM »
Personally I would not let that tree hold fruit and let it focus on putting out leaves - for comparison sake here is mine in June that I let hold 3-4 fruit.



As for the spider mites I will say starfruit is definitely one of my trees that get hit the hardest by them, 2 years ago they completely defoliated the tree because I didn't pay attention. If there's a large infestation I just cut off the branch at this point. Smaller infestations I've used Safer insect killing soap (I'm sure any type of soap is fine) and that works pretty well as long as you keep spraying everyday for about a week. Even now I spray the tree once a week because of how prone it is to attracting spider mites but as long as they're kept in check the damage they do is minimal with how fast these trees grow.

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I've had a couple lemon drops where all the leaves have dropped from sun scorch, probably took about a month to have new leaves but you could see the leaf buds forming after 2 or so weeks. Also have an achacha that dropped all of its leaves from the cold, that one took about 3 - 4 months before leaves came back but the root system on that one was much weaker. If the root system is good you should be fine, my experience is that if the root system is damaged it's very difficult for Garcinias to recover.

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Looking like Monday will be the last warm day this year for me, so going to move everything inside next week. Should get to enjoy some Starfruit soon and I think my Eugenia stipitata has set fruit.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia discussion thread
« on: August 10, 2023, 07:58:08 PM »
General question for everyone here. My garcinias in the past usually grow to a crisp no matter what i have done. Ive tried everything but I chalk it up to our dryness here and intense sunlight.

Out of curiosity do you grow your garcinias differently than your other tropicals? I know most need to be in shade in the first few years but even with misters and a recent greenhouse I still dont see those pretty green leaves

I agree with the dryness and sunlight, I move my plants outside in early-mid april and none of the older leaves were burnt (did have newer flushes get burnt) until there were a few weeks in July that were very dry and had a very high UV index. I have my smaller plants under a 40% shade cloth, the 1st image is a lemondrop that received about 3-4 more hours of afternoon sun vs the 2nd one during that time.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia discussion thread
« on: August 10, 2023, 07:19:22 PM »
Here's some of the species I've got growing

Achachairu - Tempted fate and got froze last year, starting to come back

Madruno

Lemon drop

Some unfortunate looking Cherapu



Cuban mangosteen



Lemon drop/Superior lemon drop trees

Luc's garcinia

Frankies garcinia seedlings

Luc's garcinia (pumpkin variety)

Seashore mangosteens

Garcinia Assimica seedlings

Garcinia sp brazilian cherapu


Have a couple more species starting to germinate - Bahiensis, Cherapu, Semente Pequena etc..

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia ID
« on: July 17, 2023, 08:59:42 PM »
maybe g. brasiliensis

Thanks roblack.

If it is brasiliensis how close is it to flowering? Maybe 1-2 years? It's about 3 1/2 ft right now




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Oh how I’ve missed the off topic section ;D

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One thing you may be able to do to set yourself apart is proper (zero) sales tax for states where food/seeds/fruit-trees are exempt.  My state Pennsylvania they are exempt yet Ebay, Etsy, and maybe others still charge me sales tax to buy.  Likely other states have similar rules but this is such a small market that the big marketplaces don't bother to handle it

Most states have an economic nexus requirement of either at least $100,000 or 200 separate transactions a year, so I would go even further and say, at least right now, he shouldn't be charging sales tax anywhere aside from the state he is located in.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Garcinia ID
« on: May 12, 2023, 11:05:37 PM »
Lost the tag to this one a while back, can't figure out what it is. Guessing lemon drop but I'm not sure.

Current pictures






New growth


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruit Tree Memes
« on: May 08, 2023, 09:33:32 PM »









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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia sp Brazilian cherapu
« on: April 19, 2023, 12:45:14 PM »
Congrats on even finding seedsI realize that the chance of me ever being able to get this to fruit is next to impossible, but I’ve been looking for seeds for about 4 years. All the online sellers seem to be sold out. Would u be willing to tell us where did u get the seeds?

How many seedlings are you planning on growing? Are you looking for male and female
Plants?

Yeah this is the first time I've seen seeds sold in about a decade, not easy to find. I bought them from Bellamy he had them for sale not too long ago.

I have 5 seeds only one has leaves so far, it being a new world garcinia it might not be dioecious but I'm not willing to risk that.

What is the botanical name of the fruit you are talking about?

Sorry I've no clue, this is the only name I have seen it referred to as.
https://www.bellamytrees.com/sold-out-species/p/garcinia-sp-nv-brazilian-cherapu?utm_medium=email&utm_source=customer_notification

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