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optimal pot riddle
Epiphyte:
seanny and vegan potato man thanks for the info about rice hulls and silica. i had never heard of silica as a possible amendment before.
vegan potato man, i'm trying to figure out the typical percentage of organic material in my media. i guess bark counts as organic?
today i decided to try inarching my soursop seedling and my cherimoya seedling. they were mixed with other seedlings...
the white pot, which was in a greenhouse, included spanish lime, soursop and panache fig. the semi-hydro pot, which was outside, included mandelo, cherimoya and surinam cherry. i removed the seedlings from the pots and inspected the roots that had been in the resevoir of the semi-hydro pot...
not sure whose roots those were but they looked ok. this particular media contained quite a bit of pumice. here were all the seedlings laid out...
from left to right, spanish lime, soursop, panache fig, mandelo, surinam cherry and cherimoya. somehow i underestimated the fig's vigor. its roots dominated the pot, so comparing the two pots isn't so useful. i was kinda curious whether the fruits would turn out striped or not. for all i know it's a male fig. not sure what happened to that surinam cherry. the mandelo seemed happy, it's my 1st time growing citrus from seed. i wonder how the fruit will turn out. hopefully it won't be as seedy as its mother.
here was the result of the inarching...
they are currently in the greenhouse. i read in this forum about soursop being grafted onto cherimoya rootstock but i didn't get the impression that it was superior to a soursop on its own. if my two seedlings successfully combine then i'll leave them be and see if it makes a difference.
Seanny:
I have a soursop tree with 2 branches of cherilata.
Tree is dead.
I have a soursop tree with a branch of cherimoya.
All leaves are turning yellow.
I have a soursop tree grafted to cherimoya rootstock.
It has a branch of cherilata.
Cherilata leaves are deep green.
The shoot is growing.
Soursop leaves are deep green.
Rootstock seems to have a major effect on soursop surviving our winter .
I’m trying to solve compatibility of soursop on cherimoya rootstock by using cherilata inter-stock.
Maybe 48-17 fits as inter-stock too.
Try it?
Epiphyte:
Seanny, wow amazing efforts! very interesting results. i don't have cherilata yet but i just purchased 20 annona montana seeds on ebay. have you tried using it? seems closely related to soursop. the montana fruit doesn't taste as good but it's more cold tolerant. i'd like to inarch montana and soursop seedlings and eventually hybridize them. seems like it's already been done...
--- Quote from: Coconut on April 12, 2014, 09:01:51 PM ---Yes I have two Israelite ( annona muricata x montana ) Mossad Uzi aka mountain soursop strains developed by a retired Mossad hence the cultivars name; Mountain soursop often despite by the fruit connoisseur collectors but soon to be love in colder part of the near sub tropic if my breeding program stabilize it in five years, I predict. I have also locate a rare pineapple flavor mountain soursop two months ago on a business in Papua New Guinea Region, luckily five germinate so far out of 50 from the cannibal highland.
What is amazed to me is why superior strains of mountain soursop annona muricata are not selected for thousand of years for superior cultivars ( as a plant much superior in its cold resistant to freeze & disease)??? My twenty years quest was wasted in its common homeland; all 10 superior varieties have come far away from its homeland in former war-zone like Middle East and Southeast Asia develop & selected by professional assassin & former cannibal headhunter??? What a shame for a plant that need more love than hate, more attention to development is call for in breeding & selection in coming years. I am tire of loosing my award winning whitman fiberless & countless superior A. Muricata to Florida countless freeze that kill my joy. I embark on a quest to find the perfect A. Glabra pond apple, the perfect dwarf coconuts, the perfect A. Montana to replace all my A. Muricata. A. montana is a very prolific producer, but tree can be quite massive if not mantain; its practically disease resistant & newer selected strains are producing fruit that will soon rival other esteem Annonas by me & a few fruit fanatic brothers in arms in North West Florida.
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Seanny:
I don’t have any mountain soursop.
I have pond apple seedlings.
They drop leaves after cold wind, similar to soursop.
I’ll graft soursop to them in May to test.
Epiphyte:
if the montana seeds i ordered germinate, and you're interested, perhaps we could do a trade. or maybe we could just split the seeds? they were only a total of $15. in this youtube video har said that he's had a montana with a rollinia/annona deliciosa grafted on it for 20 years. do you have deliciosa? i have a 1' or 2' seedling growing well indoors that i bought last fall. i'm hoping that the seeds came from huertasurbanas, which would mean that they are originally from misiones argentina. in theory we should have no problem growing anything from that area outdoors here, at least in terms of temperature. my deliciosa seedling was in a greenhouse when i bought it so it wouldn't have had enough time to acclimate.
i'd like to inarch all 3 annonas...deliciosa, montana and muricata. well, i guess i could combine deliciosa and montana, which i would then combine to the already combined cherimoya and muriacta seedlings that i shared a pic of.
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