Thanks Pine Islander. However, I did not see " Red Hawaiian," but, the varieties on this page are so many that I have not heard of, which is mind blowing. I may just buy it to see what it turns into. I picked up an expedition at Echo last year, just out of curiosity to see what it becomes. So far this year it has had great growth and just after the rains here it started to bud, but I may break them off to give the tree some more time to establish itself.