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Late fruits, but better late than nothing  ;D.

Poncirus #7, assumed to be Benton citrange, but thinking it s not Benton.
But fruits are told to be sweet - don' t know if they still get ripe, perhaps
to be prooved next year



Chimäre Prag, first two fruits after 4 years in ground  :), hope one will get ripe or nearly ripe before
Winter freeze in December or January



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Citrus breeding is hard and long lasting but interesting work  ;).
Here the status of my breeding trials
with Chandler x Bloomsweet startet in 2022 and
Yuzu x Citrumelo startet in 2023.

Chandler x Bloomsweet which managed -8 °C in winter
had lot of loss and hard start in 2024  with lot of rain and snail attacks


Yuzu x Citrumelo the rest which looks good, some died with root problems.
Hope this 4 will stabilize - winterhardiness test seems
not realistic before they have grown one or two more years.
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Macroview




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Today due to curiosity tested at very early stage a inground Kerajimandarinfruit,
diameter 2,5 cm, for my opinion it looks already very promising.
Juicetest is sour like lemon, but could be already used as lemon substitute.


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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Nippon Orangequat - cold hardiness
« on: August 12, 2024, 03:39:54 PM »
I don' t know what you expected to find interesting and new ?
Yes this citrus with the fantasy name is exactly a Nippon Orangequat,
so you are in the right topic.
I think Nippon Orangequat is a very interesting variety, very cold hardy and
excellent fruit, nearly same taste as a good Satsuma.
I have now two grafts in ground and with fleece protection they survived -11°C as
young plants.
Only secret is if they are in my climate already sweet end of December ?
I will see it this December.
My plant is from Eisenhut in Swiss.

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After 4 years also Chimera Prag seems to keep 2
fruits from 3 flowers. Though the flowers came late
and the fruits are still small.
But they are there  8).

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New grafts on inground Sanford Curafora develop nice fruits
already curios about ripening time and taste

Keraji fruit


Nippon Orangequat fruit


Sanford Curafora fruit


Satsuma Silverhill fruit



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For thinning out, as I have to do with Sanford or Bloomsweet, I jeep the twig with the fruit in one hand and with the other I take the fruit and turn it and it breaks away.
 This works quite good.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Anyone growing Taveres LImequat
« on: July 19, 2024, 04:25:37 PM »
I have Tavares with first fruits last year.
I personally was not so overwhelmed by the taste.
Perhaps next harvest is better.
I like much more Kumquats.

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Thankyou very much Millet  :).
Yes, hardy citrus is a hard bussines in zone 7 , but very
satisfying and interesting.
Biggest challenge is to find beneath ornamental plants
Citrus hardy citrus with delicious fruits.
So for the moments the best hardy ones with delicious
fruit for me are:
Bloomsweet, Nippon Orangequat, Keraji, Sanford Curafora and
Thomasville. Though I still have to expirience this year if
ripening time in my zone is sufficient for acceptable sweetness in the fruits.
Bloomsweet and Thomasville hopefully next year without fruit drop.
Citrus still keep so much secrets  8).

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Here some pictures of my inground citrus with
fruits this year.
Some of them, Yuzu x Citrumelo, 5* Citrumelo,
Bloomsweet an Ichangstar 60 set fruit, but dropped
them - perhaps due to our wet and cold spring and early summer
In Germany.
 Others as the following pictures show
don' t mind the crazy weather.
Trifeola with first fruit


Silverhill, grafted on Sanford Curafora


Sanford Curafora fruit


Nippon Orangequat on Sanford Curafors


Keraji on Sanford Curafora


Clemyuz 22 with first fruit, still small in comparison to the others



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In my opinion the Yuzu x Citrumelo is the frosthardy citrus with
the best colours - here young leaves with nice colours


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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: US 812
« on: July 01, 2024, 05:35:40 AM »
Thank you Ilya,
looks and sounds good for a very frosthardy variety.
Regards Frank

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Here all the 1 year old seedlings which have seen several freeze days and -8 ° C ,
(pictures of Chandler x Bloomsweet I already posted here) now winter damages shows
from dead/heavy damage (N1 tri Voss) to nearly no damage (Citrumelo N82).
Chandler x Bloomsweet now also shows more damage, but slso some still look quite good
as a positive surprise.
Also very interesting how different the frost hardiness within
one variety.
Because the stickers can' t be red, here the varieties
from left (worst) to right (best):
N1 tri Voss, 5* Citrumelo, Yuzu, Chandler x Bloomsweet, Citrumelo N82





Current status of survivors of the freeze test - shown for
Chandler x Bloomsweet cross.
Winter damage still separated fairly against status in March,
but now the survivors are clear, though despite bark cracks they survived,
and show no healthy green resprouting.
So now I will protect them the following winters before
grafting them on some of my multifruit hardy citrus in ground,
in assuming frosthardiness as good as Bloomsweet and good fruits.





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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: US 812
« on: June 29, 2024, 01:51:27 PM »
It is around 3.5 meters high. Completely hardy without any protection being in ground since 2012.
The lowest temperature  for this period has been -12C.

Hello Ilya,
interesting, whats about fruit size and fruit taste - are they
edible with good taste and when are they mature ? 

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: N1triVoss
« on: June 19, 2024, 01:49:23 PM »
That was my experience, the hardiness was largely compromised  by the presence of soft new growth as well as fruits hanging on the tree.

Thanks Ilya , I will try this late summer   :o

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: N1triVoss
« on: June 18, 2024, 05:29:12 PM »
Sylvain,
It could be something connected with late summer growth.
As a rule I remove all new growth appearing after the middle of August. As you know I am hundreds kilometers North to you , this winter had -9.6C for several nights and 10 days without soil defreze. Some damage to Yuzus, but not even leaves loss on N1tri.

Hello Ilya,
this is an interesting point. Ialready heard this, but I thought this would only influence the small summer groth twigs, but if I understand you right the summer groth will also influence the hardiness of the whole plant including the bigger older branches ? Is this your experience or is there also an explanation for this effect ?
I lost last winter a big part of my Satsuma Collot at -8,5°C within the protection fleece.
In late summer I didn't cut late summer groth.

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Satsuma Collot, first two fruits in December 2023,
about 1,3m high died back this winter about 10  cm
over the graft union, after 3 or 4 freeze days with a low of about - 8,5 ° C
unter protection fleece.
Fortunately there it stopped and regrows now.
Think I will graft one scion on Poncirus to try getting perhaps a little
bit more frost hardiness than on the current Swingle rootstock.


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Flowers and fruitlets of some inground Citrus

Keraji, meanwhile a plant of 2m height


Sanford Curafora a flower booster


Ichangstar 60


Yuzu x Citrumelo



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Yes I also heard about late fruit ripening. No I hope for at least one fruit to
see how it will ripe and taste. I will keep you updated.
In foresight I pollinated with Bloomsweet. Bloomsweet is among my citrus
a good pollen donor.
Good success with your Budwood  :).

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3 weeks later the nice flower setting is there.

Clemyuz 22


Trifeola


Bloomsweet


Ichangstar 60

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Cold Hardy Citrus Experiment Zone7A NJ
« on: May 16, 2024, 02:28:19 AM »
Very nice to see, how the experiment turns to success.
Is the xie shan also in ground ? If yes astonishing that it took 7 ° F.

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Inground Citrus with first flowers this spring,
though we had 3 nights of late freezes last week with -2 and -3° C

Bloomsweet 2. year on Flying Dragon


Ichangstar 60, graft of 2021, one year in ground


Trifeola, after one year in ground


Clemyuz 22, 2.year in ground





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What is trifolis?

Trifolis is a Citrumelovariety which is said to have better fruit and
and a very good coldhardiness.

Citrangequat 10-3-4 is as far as I know not available in Europe, at least not under
that name.
We have this, perhaps similar variety:
https://agrumilenzi.it/en/negozio/citrusen/lemons/citrange-quat-4-season-fortunella-margarita-x-poncirus-trifoliata-x-citrus-sinensis/

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In 2023 a lot of new varieties have been grafted or planted in ground.
Two of them are interesting concerning frosthardiness and
better fruit quality ( hopefully   ;)).

Ichangstar60, grafted in 2021, planted in ground 2023,
no winter damage and now flowerbuds


Trifolis, grafted in 2023 on inground Poncirus,
young graft with no damage in winter and
and now starting to grow



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Here the positive surprises of my varieties which managed
the winter very good, conditions this winter I already
described in the previous posts.
Dimicelli  grafted in 2023, very thin graft survived and brings new groth


Staraji55, second winter with new groth, no damage at all


Nippon Orangequat first winter, shows new groth


Satsuma Silverhill,right, and Clemyuz 22 small graft left, both grafts of
2023 on Sanford Curafora no damage at all and with new groth



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