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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Dwarfing a vigorous tree
« on: July 29, 2023, 01:46:59 PM »
Hi guys, I'm back at making videos :) and this one is about quite an interesting technique of dwarfing a vigorous tree. Why haven't I thought of it before myself? Technically it's very easy to do, anyone can do it.

I hear lots of complains especially about huge mango trees, this can easily be a solution. What do you guys think? Have you tried it before? If yes, please share photos of the tree.

Hi friends,
have some mango varieties grafted on to turpentine seedlings last year. They have flushed more than two growth cycles and can be shipped well. $25 each plus shipping. Or local pickup in North Miami Beach (always preferred!)

Cotton Candy - reserved
White Pirie - reserved
Seacrest/Triple Sec - reserved
Mallika - reserved
Peach Cobbler - on Mallika seedling. - reserved
Sweet Tart - reserved
Venus - reserved
Dwarf Hawaiian - reserved

Also if you want any variety grafted or two varieties grafted to one turpentine seedling please let me know, the pre-order varieties will take at least 6-8 months to be ready to ship if all goes well . Extra graft on the tree will be $20 more. These are the varieties i can graft:
Lemon meringue
Sugar Loaf
Super Julie
Lil gem
Honey Kiss
Fruit punch
Cotton Candy
Coconut Cream

In the subject line please write the varieties you want.

I do not sell scionwood at this time, sorry.

Hi friends,
James - SaltwaterTx had contacted me via fb messenger for Manilla tamarind seeds. He had sent me some seeds a while back and i wanted to send him some of my seeds as a trade. I had promised a few months ago but they were not ready. Now they are fruiting and i wanted to send the seeds but it shows he was last active in fb May 24th. When i see his activity here in the forum, it says May 24 last active as well. I just want to make sure he is all right. Is there any grower here from his neighborhood who can check?

Hi friends,
i have over 30 turpentine mango seedlings for those wanting to graft mangoes.

Some have girth much thicker than pencil thickness size and some a little thinner but growing fast with heat and rain now. The thick ones are $20 and thin ones $15. There are many that i have made into double rootstock and some triple rootstock. Also there are 5 trees that are from a dwarfing rootstock, trees that i found naturally dwarfed in CR. Their fruits were small and round, smaller than our turpentine and sweet, spicy but fibrous.

Discount if you buy in bulk - $150 for 10 trees.   

Can do both local pickup and shipping. But i won't have time to ship right away since i am traveling back and forth but you can always come pickup if we can arrange date/time.
I also have many grafted 1g mangos  on turpentine, there are of the varieties i like. Will sell them next time once seedlings are gone.

They are in 7g but really should have been up-potted to 15g, i just don't have 15g pots  ;D . Already fruited many times and might be holding some fruits even now. I have 5-6 , each $80. If you take them all i will give for $65 each. Pick up at North Miami Beach until Monday the 8th.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Trade/Buy Annona scions
« on: March 12, 2023, 07:20:33 PM »
I am looking for custard apple (A. Reticulata) scions of San pablo, Fernandez variety or any other good tasting A. reticulata varieties. I can trade with Guillermo pink ilama, Painterís cherilata, Whitmann fiberless soursop scions or just buy them.

i am looking for 5-10 seeds each of quince and diospyros kaki ĎFuyuí for rootstocks. Not sure if there is a certain variety of quince that gives a better disease resistance but i am open to trial so please let me know what you have for sale or trade. Thanks.

I babied these precious plants in hopes of harvesting and eating from them year after year, but life had another plan for me  ;D   So i will be using this post to sell all my potted plants that have been with me for many years.

They are for local pickup at our garden in North Miami Beach, FL. Not that i can not ship if someone wants to pay for shipping, but research shipping costs for large size potted plants if you really want them shipped. I won't bare root them to ship, and the pots are quite heavy.

1. Fruiting Blue Grape/Myrciaria Vexator in 15g - $200 -  SOLD
it is flowering right now and has a beautiful canopy.

2. Sabara Jaboticaba - 6 years old, in 15g pot and almost 6ft tall with pot - $100
-1 sold, still 3 left.

3. Miracle fruit (Synsepalum dulcificum) - Bigger one is  sold, smaller one still left -  this one has fruited for last 2 years $75, perfect for 15g container

4. Sri gading chempedak - 3ft tall ones for $20, 2 smaller ones for $35, 2 of the small ones (16 in height with pot) can fit into medium $17 flat rate priority box; for the tall ones shipping will be added depending on location since they're too tall to be shipped flat rate.

4. Flowering Rainforest Plum, tree is about 6ft tall with the pot - $200 - SOLD

5. 15g Butterscotch sapodilla, about 6-7ft tall, flowering currently - $300 -SOLD

6. Lucs Garcinia - 8ft tall, 5 ft wide in 15g pot  - 8 years old - $300 - SOLD

7. Achachairu - at least 15ft tall, 4ft wide - in 25g pot - $350 - SOLD

If you need pics of the plants please pm me.

This is a 15g miracle fruit tree that has been fruiting since last year. The tree is made into a beautiful bonsai to keep in the pot.It is 7-8 years old. Fruits many times a year, specially after a good rainfall. Price $120 . Please message here or email at 

This 15g red hybrid jaboticaba is over 6 ft tall from the ground and has started to fruit this year. For local pickup only. Price $200 or best offer.

Hi guys, i have a few Imbe seedlings for sale. $20 plus shipping $12.
Will ship out on Monday/Tuesday. Plants are grown in soil less medium but please check your state rules and regulations before you order.
Paypal payment to with your forum name and shipping address in the note section.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Mango scions for trade
« on: August 29, 2022, 08:36:28 PM »
Hi all, i was hoping to get some scions from Tropical acres this year, end of August, as Sept-October has been better time for my garden for grafting mangoes but unfortunately i just heard from Becky that Alex is not well and is not taking any scion requests. I hope for his speedy recovery.

I have been looking for varieties that do well in the high rainfall areas and the humid interior areas as well as some that may be prone to anthracnose but i always wanted to add to my collection. 
I am looking for at least 2 scions each of - Rapoza, Phillipines, Myatrynat, Falan, Cambodiana, Duncan, Dupuis Saigon, Florigon, Super Alphonso, Nelson, East Indian.

If you have some or all of these please reply or message me with your wish-list so we can trade. I have Fruit Punch, O-15, Coconut Cream, Sugar loaf, M-4, Alampur Baneshan, Sonpari, Neelam, Jehangir, Mallika, Amrapali, Honey Kiss, Lil gem, Creme brulee, Carla, Super Julie, Valcarrie, Carrie, Fairchild etc.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango tastings 2022 - let's start!
« on: May 12, 2022, 11:43:21 AM »
hi friends! My first mango tasting of the 2022 season is on. Twist: itís not Florida mangoes! 😜 (some really hilarious wildlife guaranteed as well!) hope you guys enjoy both, let me know what you have tasted so far this season and how it was.

I'm really tired of checking my cucumber and other cucurbit vines every day and finding more and more damaged ones from within. Birds and possums are great but they are just not smart enough to dig inside the plant  :o . Leaf rollers, pickleworms - so hard to protect the plants from them without chemicals.
Have you tried releasing any predatory species of beetles? I read that calasoma species is called "caterpillar hunter" or "caterpillar searcher" which gives lots of hope  ;D

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / 2022 SHADEHOUSE CLEARANCE SALE
« on: March 31, 2022, 08:18:23 PM »

I'm back from my travels and still have some plants available. Will be adding some more exciting plants coming weeks!

Shipping from South Florida. The shipping cost will be calculated according to the number of plants purchased; my shipping app is giving the best price from all major shipping companies. I usually ship priority or equivalent from UPS/FedEx, but if you prefer express shipping, let me know at time of purchase. If I overcharge you for shipping on preorders, I will reimburse when I know the actual shipping cost.

I ship Mondays and Tuesdays, unless you want some other day (specify).
If you want to see a photo of the plants youíll receive, let me know before I pack them.

I will do my best to pack your plants with utmost care, but if there is any damage to plants during shipping let me know (some plants like jackfruits and wax jambus take breakage very easily but others like tree tomatoes donít).

If your box arrives damaged and the plant suffers or dies from it, you have up to $50 insurance from the shipper, please file a claim with them asap. If you want to upgrade insurance, let me know.

If you buy $100+, you get a choice of a free plant! Free plant is any 4inch pot of your choice from what is still available.

Payment is strictly PayPal friends and family to ; however, if you want to pay Goods and Services, add 3% to the total (including shipping). In the Paypal note to the payment write which plants you are paying for, and your shipping address.

Our medium consists of coir, peat, perlite, vermiculite and commercial inoculants, depending on the demands of a plant. We donít use soil (unless stated) but cannot guarantee that the medium doesnít have extra life. Millipedes come, worms come etc. so please check your stateís regulations before ordering. We assume no responsibility for confiscated plants.

Friendly communication is appreciated. Impolite inquiries wonít be entertained.

Will trade any 1g plants on the list for sapodilla seedlings.

Selection for shipping or local pickup:
Mai 3 seedling 1g - $20
Red Morning seedling 1g - $20
Red Morning seedling 4in - $10

Lemondrop Mangosteen 4in - $15 (4 leaves)
Na Dai sugar apple 1g $20 (1 left)
White coco plum 4in - $10
Noni 4in - $10, 1g - $25 (shippable), 3g - $35 (pickup only)
Tamarillo /tree tomato Ecuador (red) - 1g - $20
Miami soursop seedling - 4-6in - $10
Miracle fruit 4in - $10
Lucís garcinia pumpkin type - citrapot $45, maximum 2 per person (only 2 small ones left with 4 leaves)
Elderberry 4in - $10, 1g - $15
Carob 4in - $20 (1 left)
Pitangatuba 4in - $15 (1 left)
Java plum, jamun (Syzigium cumini) - 4in - $10 (1 left), 1g - $25 (1 left)
Chalice vine (huge fragrant blooms) - 1g $20

Local pickup only, no shipping - planted in soil mix, not soilless medium:
Noni 3g - $35
Yi Xuan mango 7g - $75
Chinese goddess dwarf bamboo 7g - $45 (privacy fence)

If your message is not answered within 24 hrs, re-send or email @ the PayPal address.

NO HOLDS. If you hear from me that your selection is available, pay for the plants right away and they will be reserved and off the list. I can keep them for you for a week or two after payment if you cannot pick up right away.
I try to keep my list up to date but please make sure I still have it right before paying.

Please refer to plant prices in the list to calculate your total.
Don't wait too long! The shadehouse is emptying up  8)

For friends who are around driving distance from North Miami Beach, FL :   

 I am going to graft some C.tetrameria #6 and #7 (wooly white sapote) variety to my C. edulis- regular white sapote seedlings. I have 5 spots where i can graft. I might be getting more than 5 scions from a very generous forum member in CA. If you want to graft C.tetrameria on to regular white sapote please message me. Won't ship.

Update Feb16th, 2022 - Scions arrived early, i have grafted much, some still left but so far no interest from growers in Miami-Dade and Broward county. Probably there are more rare fruit growers in West palm and northern counties and in Gulf coast area but since nobody reached out, i will close the topic. In future, if my grafts take and i can provide any scions i will be happy to share. 

Reportedly, C. tetrameria #6 and #7 are one of the best tasting ones from CRFG taste test. Also using C.tetrameria as an interstock or a rootstock has been found to dwarf the size of C.edulis trees without compromising the fruit production. This experiment was done in CA so i don't know how they will perform in Florida weather and soil, but i am trying to experiment and welcome anyone who wants to join.

Also, i am sharing this, not selling. I am only trying to distribute the species so we can have them for more growers here in South Florida.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Group Seed Order from BRAZIL # 2
« on: December 02, 2021, 07:29:39 PM »
Hi friends, after a long thought of whether i should go forward with the order or not i have decided to go forward. Since we already had 7 friends who had submitted their final count of seeds, it was easy for me to just send that order to the seller and wait. Then i applied for permit and obtained it. The seller has sent the final prices for phyto, shipping and paypal fees. I have never done transaction with the seller, nor can i vouch for whether his seeds will germinate. We are all taking the calculated risk based on trust of forum members who got their seeds previously, so if any problems occur please deal directly with the seller.

My wife is better at math than I am:) so she offered to divide the international shipping cost between friends based on each personís total, and I think itís more fair because some people have small orders and some, like me, large ones. I will be sending message tomorrow to each of you to confirm your totals. I will be sharing the file sent to me by seller directly to you so there is transparency.

Everyone will pay directly to the seller, that way your order will be protected by PayPal. As this is a group order, we wonít be able to proceed until the last one of you pays. If you decide to cancel your order, let me know asap and please do not ghost me, so that I can substitute you.

Additional costs apart from the total cost of seeds will be as follows:
- Phyto + International shipping-DHL + Sellerís international paypal fee 7%
- Domestic shipping via USPS small priority plus shipping supplies - $11 each.
- I am not charging anything for my time. You can be nice and friendly to me and pay in a timely manner without delays, that will be my charge.

Forum sometimes eats up messages and there is no way to know if you received forum messages or not, so i suggest you share your email address with me ( for group discussion and updates on this order.

After everyone confirms their total, and pays directly to the seller, make a screenshot of your payment and put in the group email. After all the payments are confirmed, package will be shipped. Please donít delay the entire group!

Thanks everyone 🙏🙏🙏

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Purple guava rot ☠️
« on: August 03, 2021, 04:56:06 PM »
Hi friends,
I was waiting on a huge Thai giant white guava that almost outgrew the mesh bag (as they always do) when I noticed that half the fruit was rotten. The fruit was away from soil, hanging high in a well aerated area. When I cut the fruit it was weirder than fiction... the rot was purple in color  😈  :o
Have you ever had this kind of rot? What could it be, and what could be the reason? This is the first time I see guava rot so drastically out of all my guava trees... hope it won't spread....

We had a delicious tasting Bangkok Lemon jackfruit from forum member Brandon today and have a lot of seeds available.
10 seeds for $10 plus shipping First class USPS $4. Seeds will be in vermiculite and ziploc bag, they are fresh and may germinate on the way :) . No international shipping. Please PM me for details and payment.

I have limited quantity of Guillermo llama scions for sale. Some Lisa atemoya scions are also available in limited quantities. The scions size vary from 1/4 to 1/2 size, no scions will be smaller than that unless they are extras. Scions will be pruned on Monday and Tuesday, wrapped in buddy tape and shipped the same day.
Price - $5 per scion for Guillermo and $4 per scion for Lisa. 
Minimum order 4 scions (can mix the two), priority shipping small box $8 flat.

If i don't respond to your message within 24 hrs, most likely message didn't come through and either message me again or write to me at .

preferably local trades, but shipping is fine, too.
Vicia villosa, or hairy vetch.


3g+ trees are local pickup only in North Miami Beach, FL;

1g and 4inch pot trees can be shipped to the states that allow. As a buyer, please research this before you claim or pay for any plants. We do not have any specific certificates, we grow our seedlings in 4inch and 1g pots in perlite, vermiculite, coco coir and peat moss mix, "extreme blend" and inoculated with root promoting bacteria, mycorrhizae & trichoderma. We do not spray any chemicals on or near any of our plants for the love of bees and butterflies. No synthetics ever.

Once we ship the plant we are not responsible for postal delays and screw-ups. Postal services have included insurance on most packages and it will be upon you to collect that. Shipping cost will be determined by weight, or a flat rate box if that's optimal. If the price is by weight, we'll update you the day before shipping.

Payment means the plant is reserved and off the list, otherwise first come-first serve, no reservations. If you want to pay and pick up later we can keep the plant for a few days for you. Paypal as 'friends & family' or cash only, please check the "friends and family" option as Paypal suggests otherwise and will charge a 3% fee. PM for any other details.

If you want more pictures of a certain plant please message me.

All proceeds go to our non-profit meditation garden and educational channel, please be kind :)

1. Miracle fruit seedlings
Price - $15

2. Lemondrop mangosteen seedlings
Price - $15

3. Jamun seedlings - sweet variety with some astringency reminiscent to me of grimal jaboticaba
Price - $15

4. Jackfruit seedlings - Bangkok Lemon and Mai-3 variety
some smaller 1g are available,  mostly 3gallon
Price- $15 for 1g , $25 for 3g

5. Elderberry rooted cuttings
In 1g pots
Price - $10

6. Giloy vine - Tinospora Cordifolia or Guduchi ("the ultimate immunity booster" used widely in ayurveda), 1gal $20

7. Na Dai sugar apple seedlings in 4 inch pot,  8 inch tall.
Price - $12

8. White coco plum seedlings, in 4inch pot
Price - $12


We love all these trees/varieties and bought or propagated them at some point in the past, but have no space in the garden for all of them any longer, so I created many multigrafted trees and the rest is for sale now. I do not spray pesticides or use synthetic fertilizers, no systemics have ever been used on these plants. Grown organically, inoculated with 25+ mycorrhizae and trichoderma.
3g, 7g and 15g trees are local pickup only in North Miami Beach, FL; 1g and 4inch pot trees can be shipped, 2-3 of 4-in or 1 of 1g fit in a usps priority shoebox, calculated by weight, about 3+lbs or tall medium flat rate priority (3 4-in plants, doesn't fit 1g pots). Make me want to travel to the post office ☺ . We pack with care and securely.
We also save seeds of pretty much everything we grow, ask me what we have.
Payment means the plant is reserved and off the list, otherwise first come-first serve, no reservations. If you want to pay and pick up later we can keep the plant for a few days for you. Paypal or cash only, PM for all the details.

Can also trade for tamarillo seeds or plant.

1g trees/seedlings

White sapote seedlings- $10 each- have many for shipping- these are McDill seedlings we kept for grafting. They are growing fast and are over 1ft tall and will soon not be able to fit in shipping box for shipping. So this is for out of state friends who want to graft other varieties.

Elderberry - a very important plant during the pandemic! - propagated by root suckers from a producing tree

Jackfruit Bangkok Lemon seedlings - in 1g pots - $15 each

Jackfruit Mai-3 seedling - 1g  and 4inch pot seedlings - $15 each

Peanut butter tree seedling - $10 each

Java Plum/Jamun - 20 seedlings in 4inch pot- $10 each

Java Plum seedlings grow very fast and can grow well in up to 9A zone in my experience, if it was not for a big tree this would excel jaboticabas in taste, to me the taste is more complex plus tons of medicinal properties. The tree will take 6-7 yrs to bear fruit from seedling, will still take 5-6 yrs if grafted.

Black surinam cherry seedling in 4inch pot - $10 each

Pitomba seedlings in 4inch pot - $15

7g trees

Tart tamarind - $35

Chinese Godess Bamboo (Bambusa multiplex riviereorum) -have 4 of these for perfect hedge, they grow up to 10ft and become bushy - $50

An ultra dwarf bamboo Pogonatherum paniceum or Panda grass that grows like a cloud and is perfect for hiding ugly spots in the garden. Clumping, will not take over. First photo is of the mature plant, doesn't grow taller than that. Tolerates light frost. The 2nd plant is for sale (the garden fork is for size comparison) in a 10g grow bag- $45, I have a small baby plant ready for shipping also -$15.


Natal Plum- crawling variety, very ornamental tropical looking foliage, fragrant white flowers and edible fruit. Never gets deficient even in poor soils - $15

Mysore Banana pup - one of my best tasting bananas- $10

Permaculture and pollinator attractant plants.
I don't think an organic sustainable fruit orchard can thrive and fight with pests without the pollinators and companion planting. These are plants that we grow ourselves in our organic garden. These plants are in 4in, 6in, 1g pot and are anywhere from $5 to $10 each.
- Katuk - plant protein powerhouse
 - Alternanthera brasiliana or Brazilian purple joyweed - a beautiful dark purple low bushy plant that is hassle free to grow, perfect for a lazy gardener like me. It is very ornamental and has pretty flowers that look like stars in the dusk, but it is edible cooked in curries, has antiviral properties and is good for herbivorous pets.

- Lippia alba - research has been done about its antidepressant and sleep enhancing qualities. Very pleasant minty taste for a great cup of night time tea
-Cranberry Hibiscus - another beautiful looking small bushy plant that can add beauty to your garden. Plus, the leaves are edible and are high in vitamins B3 (niacin), B2, A and C. It is high in protein and is an excellent source of antioxidants and anthocyanins. Please cook the leaves/boil to remove oxalate as you do for all brassicas like kale. Has beautiful dark maroon flowers that attract pollinators.
-2 varieties of coleus that grow very ornamentally and attract millions of bees - variegated and chartreuse. Bees' favorite flowers during summer months that require virtually no care.
-Red ixora - attracts tons of butterflies and other pollinators
-Lavender firespike - attracts butterflies and hummingbirds
-Epazote - highly medicinal plant that is said to have strong anti-cancer properties; cook it with beans, and you won't have gas :)
- Everglades tomato - native Florida cherry tomato that has done very well here in South FL without special care. Self seeds easily if you allow some fruit to fall onto the ground. (seeds only at this time, until next season)
- Native ground cherry - Physalis walteri - edible fruit, fruits fast like a tomatillo. Grows perfectly well in sandy soil.
- White hummingbird tree - the entire plant is edible: leaves, pods, beans, flowers, plus it is a nitrogen fixer. Beautiful canopy tree, gets to about 15-20ft in height.

- Permaculture starter kit - 6 very important starter plants. Everglades tomato, Cuban oregano, aloe vera, African potato mint, Surinam(e) spinach and Okinawan spinach. $10 for all. Can create other starter kits upon request.

Many more plants if you visit in person! A thoughtful selection of rare perennial edibles, carefree ornamentals, and a combination of both:) and of course fruit trees.
Would love to meet you all fruit growers in person and share how we are growing our food forests.


We have been visiting forum members in South Florida and getting to learn a lot from their experiences of growing a food forest. Most of the forum friends have been very welcoming and kind to invite us, show us around their garden, explain their struggles starting the food forest and the difficulties encountered over the years, and their glorious victories alike. The trips have been informative as well as fun as we get to enjoy an exciting conversation, tastiest fruits and see trees we have not seen before, but most importantly, we love the connection we make with the forum friends and end up with the feeling like we are a family of gardeners.

Here is our amateur video highlighting some interesting aspects of pineislander's (Jay Reynolds') Treehouse permaculture farm, a food forest in Pine Island, FL that we've been following for a while. Enjoy!

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Best place to buy citrus trees in South FL?
« on: September 12, 2020, 07:58:15 PM »
Hi friends,
i am looking for citrus varieties that are relatively resistant to citrus greening. Have heard good about kumquat, finger lime and sugar belle mandarin so far. Any tips on where i can drive to pickup, anywhere from Homestead to West palm Beach will be good. I am looking for 1g or 3g plants.

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