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Jabba The Hutt

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ISO Albert Etter Apple Scions!!
« on: March 14, 2023, 04:12:31 PM »
Looking for any Albert Etter varieties and also any Red Flesh or rarer variety of apples!

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Re: ISO Albert Etter Apple Scions!!
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2023, 03:43:28 PM »
Jabba,

If youre not already in the FB groups "North American Fruit Explorers - NAFEX" and "North American Scion Exchange", I suggest joining. Theres tons of posts throughout the week but not long ago saw some red-fleshed scions for sale, as well as other rare and misc. varities. Probably plenty more groups to joing from there. Best of luck.

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Re: ISO Albert Etter Apple Scions!!
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2023, 04:21:49 PM »
Jabba,

If youre not already in the FB groups "North American Fruit Explorers - NAFEX" and "North American Scion Exchange", I suggest joining. Theres tons of posts throughout the week but not long ago saw some red-fleshed scions for sale, as well as other rare and misc. varities. Probably plenty more groups to joing from there. Best of luck.

Thanks for the reminder about that group, lots of people with good varieties! Going to have to offer some scions here once we get going.

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Re: ISO Albert Etter Apple Scions!!
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2023, 08:35:08 PM »
I got the Redlove apples from One green world. I could send you some when they finish flowering.

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Re: ISO Albert Etter Apple Scions!!
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2023, 07:42:30 PM »
For red-fleshed apple varieties, you might try contacting Hocking Hills Orchard. They have an extensive collection of red-fleshed apple varieties:
http://www.fourseasonscabinrental.com/redfleshedapples.html

I have a few.

Niedzwetzkyana - the original species, totally dark red
PI629319 - beautiful gray/silvery foliage and a red-fleshed apple. No name, just an accession number, from a botanical collection in Kazakhstan

Unfortunate thing about red-fleshed apples is that most of them are very susceptible to apple scab, a trait which they inherit from Niedzwetskyana. The recent commercial releases of red-fleshed apples are the result of a breeding program to try to improve this trait.  The well-known crabapple Prairie Fire was also a result of improving the scab-resistance by breeding with the totally scab-resistant Japanese crabapple, Malus floribunda I think.

I just started growing Odysso and Calypso from OneGreenWorld.com that come from the RedLove breeding program.

Burnt Ridge Nursery had one of the Etter apples, Wickson crab. I've been interested in it, but never tried growing it.

Edit: Burnt Ridge doesn't list Wickson on their web site now, but Trees of Antiquity offers it: https://www.treesofantiquity.com/products/wickson-apple-tree

I have a few other rare apple varieties from a botanical expedition to Kazakhstan that are not red-fleshed. I did not know what the fruit would be like when I ordered the scions from Nick Botner's scionwood orchard, before he retired. However, I wanted to have a sampling of the genetic diversity of apples from Kazakhstan for possible apple breeding.
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Re: ISO Albert Etter Apple Scions!!
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2023, 08:15:56 PM »
Nick Botner's extensive scionwood collection was taken over by the Temperate Orchard Conservancy (TOC).

They make scions available. You will need to plan ahead and put in an order in December, as they only take orders during a short time window.

Their list is very extensive:
https://www.temperateorchardconservancy.org/scions/
I see some of Etter's varieties there, such as "Etters Gold".

Nick Botner's collection had more of Etter's varieties, but the TOC is still working on making them all available. I think they have been gradually expanding the list over the years. I don't see the Kazakhstan varieties listed yet.

Here's Etter's list of varieties:
http://www.greenmantlenursery.com/fruit/etter-apples.htm

And here's Botner's full list:
https://www.temperateorchardconservancy.org/BotnerAppleCollection.pdf

Maybe if there's one in particular that you are looking for that isn't yet available, they might take an inquiry for it and maybe prioritize it.


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Re: ISO Albert Etter Apple Scions!!
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2023, 08:35:11 PM »
I haven't tried this yet, but you can also request scions from the USDA germplasm resources library (GRIN).

https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/search

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Re: ISO Albert Etter Apple Scions!!
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2023, 10:27:54 PM »
Thanks guys, lots of places to potentially get scions :D