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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: South/Central Florida Cold Fronts
« on: February 10, 2022, 01:51:47 PM »
Quote from: Galatians522 on February 08, 2022, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: yuzr on February 08, 2022, 08:45:55 AM
Freeze before mature mango tree had made flower shoots. All new leaves had matured. All leaves are completely brown, will die.  Central FL, Feb 8.

A thought : Would frozen leaf removal in late Feb result in new leaves sooner?
If so, then remove all, or just at ends?     

I would wait patiently for now. The frozen leaves will protect what is below them if we have more cold weather.

Thanks.

I was specific ("late Feb").  Please define "for now", including the word "until" and some calendar-related phrase.

The core question remains.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: South/Central Florida Cold Fronts
« on: February 08, 2022, 08:45:55 AM »
Freeze before mature mango tree had made flower shoots. All new leaves had matured. All leaves are completely brown, will die.  Central FL, Feb 8.

A thought : Would frozen leaf removal in late Feb result in new leaves sooner?
If so, then remove all, or just at ends?       

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lessons learned February 4th 2021 were applied Jan 29/30 2022 frost freeze even
« on: February 08, 2022, 08:18:49 AM »
Freeze before mature mango tree had made flower shoots. All new leaves had matured. All leaves are completely brown, will die.  Central FL, Feb 8. Do you expect that I will get no fruit this year?

A thought : Would frozen leaf removal in late Feb result in new leaves sooner?
If so, then remove all, or just at ends?       

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango second cuts not as promised
« on: November 29, 2021, 05:07:01 PM »
This has been edifying. With much appreciation I will be guided by the generous information from all. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango second cuts not as promised
« on: November 29, 2021, 09:37:00 AM »
Depicts what Orkine has been writing. And what my second cuts should have given (gray lines). 

1) A thought: For second cuts of this type, does it matter whether some of shoot remains beyond whorl node?

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Quote from: Rtreid on November 28, 2021, 08:04:48 PM
As new growth starts, the leaves are widely spaced, and as that growth spurt stops, the leaves become tightly packed.
So, another unexpected behavior is the absence of intermediate leaves along first segments of my branches.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango second cuts not as promised
« on: November 28, 2021, 10:52:45 PM »
The issue that you see is not the issue; the first cut is not the issue ("... I'm happy.").

I made second cuts as shown in video sequence cited for second cut;  my current flushes each should be multiples, not these singles.
Although your suggestion for a way to proceed from here is not bad per se, I do not want the elongated branch spans that would result.

Quote from: Orkine on November 27, 2021, 05:20:39 PM
If I end up with only one from a node, I will knock it off early and let is send multiple
Expecting multiples in place of these new singles that I would knock off?  Telling it: Now try again, do it right.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango second cuts not as promised
« on: November 28, 2021, 03:12:32 PM »
   
For size perspective: first cut was made at waist height.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango second cuts not as promised
« on: November 28, 2021, 09:43:34 AM »
Quote from: Orkine on November 27, 2021, 05:20:39 PM
If I end up with only one from a node, I will knock it off early and let is send multiple

Meaning multiple at the location of this new single that I would knock off?  Telling it "Now try again, do it right".

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango second cuts not as promised
« on: November 27, 2021, 04:15:14 PM »
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh1AnvNa6mc
Jump to 8:36.

His "first cut" :
  9:06 "Four to six new shoots will emerge from this cut." 
Three emerged, I'm happy.

His "second cut" :
  9:41 "Now another four to six shoots will develop from each cut." 
Instead, ONE each on mine, extending inline from branch, thus nothing accomplished by the second cuts.
Have you had same experience?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can I prune my papaya?
« on: November 26, 2021, 12:24:49 PM »
Quote from: Viking Guy on December 27, 2016, 03:11:58 AM
"candlestick" style
Would I expect something very much like this?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help deciding which branches to prune on young mango
« on: September 17, 2021, 09:37:38 AM »
Quote
hope that the next round of branches will continue to spread
Alternative to hope, in video
(link is below; this reply dialogue is inserting a ridiculous amount of space, and making link text font size very small, at least as rendered in my browser).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS2vkvzHiiE
 .

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal Mango Scions and Grafting
« on: September 08, 2021, 01:11:34 AM »
Quote from: simon_grow on July 25, 2021, 05:24:09 PM
removing blooms/fruit at the appropriate time
What would be a rule of thumb for "appropriate time" ?

Quote from: Seanny on July 28, 2021, 06:30:20 PM
rootstock is huge so pinching things below the graft does nothing
Please explain.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Results of Clamshell boxes to protect Mangoes from squirrel experiment
« on: September 07, 2021, 11:33:08 PM »
Thanks for the video and accompanying text.

>"taste bad from internal ripening around the pit... ripening on the tree and should be gross"

Is that generally true across varieties?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango: a kind that is sour until very ripe?
« on: September 07, 2021, 03:04:50 PM »
Thanks, I may try grafting. 
1) Veneer better than other techniques?
2) Ok if canes much thicker than 1" ?
3) Until when this year might it be ok to do it?  (zone 9b Central FL)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango trees : keep forever compact
« on: September 07, 2021, 02:54:35 PM »
Thanks for replies.

In brief purusal of information about Paclobutrazol, in abstract of a research into its toxic effects: "Due to its high mobility, high stability and potential for bioaccumulation, the risks of PBZ to the health of organisms and ecological systems have become a serious concern."

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango: a kind that is sour until very ripe?
« on: September 05, 2021, 07:34:45 PM »
Thank you.  I did not know whether the extreme sourness of the apparently (based on unlike variety) ripe fruits perhaps was characteristic of some variety.
Starting with your suggested name Manila, I found this picture of the Pico variety, likewise of Philippine origin, that resembles mine (finished now):


I am trying to decide whether to keep tree in condition to bear next season, or to hack it into a lower, ornamental tree. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / mango trees : keep forever compact
« on: September 05, 2021, 06:38:27 PM »
Central FL.  Inground, young.  Varieties unknown; not dwarves.
I plan to prune to keep heights at 6' max, and to keep widths appropriate to heights.  Has any of you done anything of the sort?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / mango: a kind that is sour until very ripe?
« on: July 12, 2021, 12:30:10 PM »
One mature tree, first time to fruit. Fruits of the longer & flatter shape, yellow skin when ripe. First two: normally soft, yellow flesh, SOUR. I thought that the tree will produce nothing good. Third: softer, orange flesh, sweet. Which prompted the question.

(Do not confuse this posting, nor any information in it, with my very recent previous posting and information which treat a different tree, type, and symptom.)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ripe mangoes firm and soft within same individuals
« on: July 12, 2021, 12:25:23 PM »
Thank you. 
Ripening was even in the years prior.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / ripe mangoes firm and soft within same individuals
« on: July 11, 2021, 10:07:56 PM »
Kind unknown.  Mature tree, third year of fruits, several have ripened thus far, three of which I ate. The first, which I thought ripe, was firmer than expected throughout; not ripe enough. Second and third I let become quite soft, yet inside there were some firmer places, in no discernable distribution.
Familiar to anyone? 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: One more time before the cold fronts?
« on: September 22, 2020, 02:29:54 AM »
I read that it is best to get one flush. From pruning immediately post-harvest.  And that a second, triggered by water after a dry period (winter), would delay flowering.  And that the second can be prevented by irrigation during dry period.

A second flush in Sept. would not be detrimental, because long time remains before flowering.  And enough time would remain before cold, if weather pattern continues as it has been in recent years.   

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango pruning advice needed for young tree
« on: September 22, 2020, 01:55:13 AM »
Quote from: behlgarden on April 19, 2019, 06:24:58 PM
tipping it... all branches from the apex. Now I cut the head off... 3 branches to grow from leaf nodes
Sounds like an important distinction, but I do not understand it. Please clarify tip and head.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How is your mango tree trimming pruning going for this year?
« on: September 22, 2020, 01:12:36 AM »
Keep or remove these branches?

      Another view:



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: July 06, 2020, 03:28:22 PM »
No weeds grow beneath oak trees, maybe fallen oak leaves prevent weeds.
Any reason not to use these leaves to mulch beneath mango tree?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: May 24, 2020, 10:34:59 AM »
Thanks.

The 270 fruits will develop well?

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