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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Grimal Jaboticaba seeds Plinia sp Peluda de Alagoas
« on: April 10, 2021, 04:15:09 PM »
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In his first post he mentioned it would take around 2 weeks from shipment to delivery and pick up at USDA station - so it sounds like should roughly plan for delivery the week of April 26th. Hopefully we can get a more dialed in date as the order progresses.
Either way, I am really stoked on this whole thing and our TFF community coming together for this. Thank you Beicadad for leading the charge.
seller is responsible for shipping to the USDA inspection station. I will pick up the trees after it clears the custom.I don’t want to pile on here, but that did not answer the question. Unless seller has stated to you that the plants will be shipped air freight, we all threw away a lot of money. With the shipping delays that are currently occurring at the CA ports it could possibly take months to receive this order.
Having lived in southern California for a couple of decades, and growing mangosteens now in Hawaii i can tell you from experience that the main difficulties in growing mangosteen in your area is maintaining high humidity all year long. This could be done with misters. But you don't want to use city water with chlorine, salts, or high pH. You need rain water or a very good water filtration system. Also mangosteens, and other "ultra" tropical fruits, like very little variation between night time temperatures and day time temperatures. It's not enough to keep temperature from dropping below 55F, and then during the day you reach 100F. Mangosteens can easily withstand 100F when there is high humidity. But they can't stand that variation of 50+ degrees difference between night time and day time temperatures. You don't want the temperatures to vary more than 20 degrees. You may be able to get the tree to grow with higher variation, but it will be very difficult to get it to fruit with higher temperature variations. If possible, i would also use a heating coil in the soil to keep soil temperatures from dropping around the roots system below 70F. Also in winter when the days shorten you will need a good lighting system to lengthen amount of hours of light the plants receive. Good luck. Nobody has been successful yet at growing mangosteen in California, but i think it is doable given enough perseverance and attention to detail.
Sounds interesting.
You might not need the humidity so high but 80% should be good.
While support at 55f is what you hear I wonder if the tree would continue to grow well at that temp. If not then the roots could become vulnerable to fungus. Our trees grow well through the entire year but our absolute minimum temperature is 20C, (68f).
Our soil is a clay loam with a ph of 6.1. Where I’ve done farm stays in Malaysia the conditions were very similar and soil at 6.5
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Peter
It's easy to maintain 55 extreme low in that area. It's easy here when it drops to zero. I'd suggest two heaters both capable of holding 55 when it's the colest ever outside. One heater as backup just in case.
Holding 90F when 107 outside isn't as easy but can be done with large exhaust fans and a wet wall. It might take some shade as well. The right greenhouse covering will limit heat loss in winter and heat gain in summer. My GH has double layer inflated woven poly and is easy to cool. Palring 175UV over 146UV.
The hard part is the 80% RH. What I'd look into is a misting system.
Also you want something as backup in case the power goes out. A few hrs without power could ruin yrs of work.
It would help to know your light level requirement. Mine with the double layer is about 50% of outside which is more than enough for the dozens of kinds of fruit I've grown.
Just a quick update with no pictures but I talked To my friend today and his Mangosteen tree is still alive! Damn him, lol! Sometimes it can be a good thing when someone proves me wrong. I’ll stop by and take a picture soon.
Simon
I’ve got one of the exotica NMZ too. This is pretty common for them. Looks like a year old air layer at most. Has anyone fruited one from them? I’m not convinced it’s an actual NMZ.
Is there a reason you are not convinced yours is an actual NMZ? Have you tasted and compared the fruit versus NMZ?