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We have started up an online Tropical Fruit Group known as International Tropical Fruit Growers. The goal of this group is similar to that of the local tropical fruit club such as the rare fruit council who have in person meetings with presentations but the main difference is that our presentations are all online! It will now be possible for tropical fruit enthusiasts from around the world to view and participate in the meetings which were previously restricted to a small number who lived close enough to the meetings and had the free time.

Here is how it works:
A week or so before the meeting we will put up the youtube video(s) of that months speaker(s) so everyone will be able to watch the video at their convenience.
The meetings which are a Q&A with the speaker from the youtube video will be done solely through a Google+ hangout. In order to join and view the Google+ hangout, all you have to do is become a follower of the International Tropical Fruit Growers google+ page.
The questions will be asked through private message to one of the moderators of the "hangout" which will then be asked to the speaker who will answer live.
Our first presentation will be Noel Ramos's "Tropical Fruit Safari from Puerto Rico" that he presented to the BRFVC earlier this month. I am not sure of the meeting date as yet but the video is up. Please follow the google+ page to get the youtube link! Thanks! We appreciate your support!

*We are looking for people who are willing to do video presentations on various tropical fruit related topics. Please message or email me if you are interested.*

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Introducing WikiFruit.com!
« on: February 10, 2012, 12:02:37 PM »
We now have a new site WikiFruit.com. It was created because a few members of the forum suggested a place where growing locations and other such information on the fruit trees could be added by anyone. A wiki is the perfect tool for a large group of people to add information over time. The site is still in its very preliminary states (Not even a logo for it yet!) but I decided to open it up to everyone to check it out and maybe even start creating some articles. Unlike wikipedia, you will need to register an account to add just to avoid any possible defacing of the site.

Members can add such information as where they are growing, techniques that have worked well for them, what fertilizers they are using etc. It is really open to add whatever you want about the tree without needing supporting evidence. I hope the information remains accurate but I would like to encourage anecdotal evidence to supplement the articles. We are using the same license as wikipedia so we are allowed to "borrow" information from their site to use on wikifruit.com. I would only encourage the borrowing if you wrote the article yourself, otherwise write us a new one!

Please feel free to let me know what you think.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Germinating Marula Seeds (Sclerocarya birrea)
« on: February 10, 2012, 11:37:41 AM »
Today I got 50 marula seeds. I think there are actually a few seeds in each "seed" so I may end up with more than 50 plants. I've read that the germination rate may be low if I do not prepare the seeds properly. This will be my marula seed germination log. Here are the instructions I found for germinating the seeds:
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The seeds of this species may have Combinational Dormancy, due to their impermeable seed coats (physical dormancy) and potentially physiologically dormant embryos (based on other species in the same genus).

Locate the operculum by filing the endocarp, then use a hammer and steel scalpel to prise off the operculum and expose the seed. Germinate on agar, germination paper or sand at 25 to 30ºC. Acid scarification with hydrochloric acid can also be used to break down the seed coat and improve germination.

If germination is low, overcome physiological dormancy with a dry after-ripening treatment immediately after harvest, at 25ºC for 18 months, before germinating the seeds on agar, germination paper or sand at their optimum temperature. This will allow post-harvest development to take place.

If anyone has any other tips or advice on germinating the seeds please let me know. I will add pics later.

Here is a link to the PDF of the marula monograph that nullzero sent me: http://www.dfid.gov.uk/r4d/PDF/Outputs/Forestry/R7227sclerocarya_monograph.pdf

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Wanted: Green Sapote Seeds!
« on: February 07, 2012, 07:06:35 PM »
Anyone know where I can get green sapote seeds or seedlings?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Lemon Zest Budwood
« on: February 07, 2012, 04:29:02 PM »
I plan to prune my tree tomorrow and will have three pieces of Lemon Zest budwood if anyone is interested.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Anyone buy seeds from this website before?
« on: February 06, 2012, 11:21:05 PM »
Anyone buy seeds from this website before?

I found them while looking for chupa chupa seeds.

http://www.kiwiboancaya.net/index.php?route=product/category&path=44

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / OOPS!
« on: February 04, 2012, 11:02:56 PM »
In trying to get "bookmarks" to work for the forum where members can bookmark a topic they like for future reference, I managed to mess up the entire forum and we had to do a full back up. After backing up we realized we lost all avatars. Please reupload your avatars. Sorry about that.

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I am looking for Quararibea cordata, ie., chupa chupa, south american sapote seeds. Anyone have any or know where I can buy some?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Where To Buy Tropical Fruit Seeds Online
« on: February 01, 2012, 05:30:12 PM »
Another FAQ topic.
Can everyone please help add to this list? I know there are a ton more sources for seeds.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Best Tropical Fruit Websites?
« on: February 01, 2012, 01:37:13 PM »
What are the best websites for tropical fruit info?

Let me start:
Julia Morton's "Fruits of Warm Climates" - http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/index.html

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He will be speaking next Monday the 6th , and his topic will be “Tropical Fruit Safari from Puerto Rico”. The meeting starts at 7:30 and I think his presentation starts at 8pm. The meeting is free and open to the public.

Location:
Broward County Extension Service
3425 College Avenue
Davie, FL 33314

Everyone should go because these rare fruit council meetings usually suck and this one will actually be good!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruits of Africa
« on: January 31, 2012, 10:38:34 PM »
The posts about marula got me wondering about fruits native to Africa. I do not often hear people refer to African fruits so I would like to make people more aware of the fruits that originate there. I would like to to hear people's opinions on the different fruit and if they are growing it and where. I found a good book with a lot of information on African fruits.
Lost Crops of Africa: Volume 3: Fruits

Edit: I used the information in the posts below to make this new list of fruit. Please continue to help me add to this list with either common names or fruit descriptions. Thanks!

ANARCADIACEAE:
Haematostaphis barteri
Pseudospondias longifolia
Sclerocarya birrea - Marula
Trichoscypha arborea
Trichoscypha patens

ANNONACEAE:
Annona senegalensis – African Custard Apple
Anonidium mannii - Junglesop

APOCYNACEAE:
Carissa edulis
Carissa macrocarpa – Natal Plum
Landolphia foretiana
Landolphia hirsute
Landolphia mannii
Saba comorensis

ARECACEAE:
Elaeis guineense – African Oil Palm

BORAGINACEAE:
Cordia africana
Cordia millenii
Cordia sinensis

BURSERACEAE:
Canarium schweinfurthii – Olive-like taste pulp
Dacryodes edulis – African Pear


CALOPHYLLACEAE:
Mammea africana

CHRYSOBALANACEAE:
Parinari curatellifolia

CLUSIACEAE:
Garcinia livingstonei – Imbe
Pentadesma butryacea

CUCURBITACEAE:
Citrullus lanatus – Watermelon
Cucumis metuliferus – Horned Melon
Telfairia pedata

EBENACEAE:
Diospyros austroafricana
Diospyros discolor
Diospyros mespiliformis
Diospyros ramulosa
Diospyros pallens

EUPHORBIACEAE:
Maesobotrya barteri

FABACEAE:
Ceratonia siliqua – Carob Tree
Parkia biglobosa – Nere
Piliostigma thonningii
Tamarindus indica - Tamarind

ICACINACEAE:
Lavigeria macrocarpa

IRVINGIACEAE:
Irvingia gabonensis – African mango

LAURACEAE:
Beilschmiedia ugandensis

LONGANIACEAE:
Strychnos cocculoides
Strychnos spinosa
Strychnos pungens

MALVACEAE:
Adansonia digitata – Baobab
Cola acuminata
Cola nitida
Grewia bicolor
Grewia flava
Grewia occidentalis

MENISPERMACEAE:
Dioscoreophyllum cumminsii

MORACEAE:
Ficus natalensis – Natal Fig
Ficus sur
Ficus sycomorus – Sycamore Fig
Myrianthus arboreus
Myrianthus holstii
Treculia Africana – African Breadfruit

MYRTACEAE:
Syzygium cordatum
Syzygium guineense

OLACACEAE:
Coula edulis
Olea capensis
Ximenia caffra – Large Sourplum

PANDACEAE:
Panda oleosa

PHYLLANTHACEAE:
Uapaca kirkiana – Sugar Plum

RHAMNACEAE:
Berchemia discolor
Zyziphus mucronata

RUBIACEAE:
Nauclea Africana
Vangueria infausta – African Medlar
Vangueria madagascariensis – Spanish Tamarind

RUTACEAE:
Balsamocitrus dawei
Citrus articulata - Wild African Cherry Orange

SALICACEAE:
Dovyalis abyssinica
Dovyalis caffra – Kei Apple
Dovyalis hebecarpa - Ceylon Gooseberry

SAPINDACEAE:
Pancovia laurentii
Blighia sapida - Ackee

SAPOTACEAE:
Baillonella toxisperma
Chrysophylum albidum - African Star Apple
Englerophytum magalismontanum
Gambeya lacourtiana
Mimusops obovata
Mimusops zeyheri
Synsepalum dulcificum – Miracle Fruit
Vitellaria paradoxa - Shea Tree

SCROPHULARIACEAE:
Halleria lucida

VERBENACEAE:
Lantana rugosa
Vitex doniana
Vitex payos

ZINGIBERACEAE:
Aframomum angustifolium
Aframomum baumannii
Aframomum elliotii
Aframomum latifolium
Aframomum melegueta
Aframomum sanguineum
Aframomum sceptium
Aframomum sulcatum

ZYGOPHYLLACEAE:
Balanites aegyptiaca – Desert Date

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Here is a review written by forum member Noel Ramos for the book Specialty Crops for Pacific Islands. Click here for the review. I will definitely be buying a copy.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / New Profile Field! List Your Fruit Trees!
« on: January 29, 2012, 11:09:30 PM »
I added a new field to the profile section, "Fruit Trees". This was suggested by MarcoIslandMango because he thought members would like to be able to see what trees other members were growing for possible budwood exchanges. I think it was a great idea and I hope everyone likes and utilizes it. If you would like to see an example of the Fruit Tree field in action, check out my profile. To make a list like I did, whatever you want on a new line add [br] before it.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Har's Services
« on: January 28, 2012, 09:03:50 PM »
Har Mahdeem, the breeder of the Lisa atemoya, now has a new Garden Maintenance, Consulting, and Labor business. He specializes in,
Sub-Tropical Horticulture:Fruit Trees, Vegetables, Ornamentals, Naturalized Woodlands, and Living Soil
Aquatics: Water Gardens, Lake-Edge Natives, and Swim Areas
He also specializes in Plant Nutrition, Semi-Natural Pruning, Natural-Materials Mulch, and Sheet Composting.

Please feel free to contact him at 561-523-6599 for his services.



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Please put your zone and state information into your profile so it displays next to your posts. It helps people put your posts into perspective.

To display what zone you are in, go to your profile settings and add your city, state, and zone into the "custom title" box, not the location box.

If anyone is having trouble getting it to work, just put your zone, city and state info in this post and I will update it for you.

Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Best Tropical Fruit Books
« on: January 27, 2012, 02:22:02 PM »
What are everyone's favorite tropical fruit books? I would will add them to the current list.

1) Fruits of Warm Climates - Julia Morton
2) Five Decades With Tropical Fruit - Bill Whitman
3) Brazilian Fruits - Harri Lorenzi
4) PROSEA 2 - Edible Fruits and Nuts
5) Wilson Popenoe: Agricultural Explorer, Educator, and Friend of Latin America - Frederic Rosengarten
6) Specialty Crops for Pacific Islanders - Craig Elevitch
7) Florida's Best Fruiting Plants - Charles Boning

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mangifera Species
« on: January 27, 2012, 01:54:16 PM »
    This post will be a collection of information and pictures of all the different mangifera species. I hope everyone can contribute their own pics of the trees and fruit  (no one else's pics please to avoid copyright problems). If anyone has tasted the fruit please let us know what you thoughts on the flavor was. Any information on the different species would be great. I will add and update this post as we gather more information.

    • Mangifera altissima
    • Mangifera andamanica
    • Mangifera austro-indica
    • Mangifera austro-yunnanensis
    • Mangifera blommesteinii
    • Mangifera bullata
    • Mangifera caesia
    • Mangifera camptosperma
    • Mangifera campnospermoides
    • Mangifera casturi
    • Mangifera collina
    • Mangifera decandra
    • Mangifera dewildei
    • Mangifera dongnaiensis
    • Mangifera flava
    • Mangifera foetida
    • Mangifera gedebe
    • Mangifera gracilipes
    • Mangifera griffithii
    • Mangifera hiemalis
    • Mangifera indica
    • Mangifera pseudoindica
    • Mangifera kemanga
    • Mangifera lalijiwa
    • Mangifera laurina
    • Mangifera macrocarpa
    • Mangifera magnifica
    • Mangifera minutifolia
    • Mangifera monandra
    • Mangifera nicobarica
    • Mangifera odorata - Kuini
    • Mangifera orophila
    • Mangifera pajang
    • Mangifera paludosa
    • Mangifera parvifolia
    • Mangifera pedicellata
    • Mangifera pentandra
    • Mangifera persiciformis
    • Mangifera quadrifida
    • Mangifera reba
    • Mangifera rubropetala
    • Mangifera rufocostata
    • Mangifera siamensis
    • Mangifera similis Blume
    • Mangifera sumbawaensis
    • Mangifera superba
    • Mangifera swintonioides
    • Mangifera sylvatica
    • Mangifera taipa
    • Mangifera torquenda
    • Mangifera transversalis
    • Mangifera zeylanica


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I saw that Excalibur was having a sale on its 100g Vietnamese pomegranates. I think their usual price for a 100g is $600 or so but they've marked them down to $200 to make some space for other trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Lemon Zest Flowers!
« on: January 24, 2012, 06:13:46 PM »
The Lemon Zest I planted at my mom's house has begun to push new growth. There appears to be some flowers. How is everyone else's doing?







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Introduce Yourself
« on: January 15, 2012, 07:07:20 PM »
Hi Everyone,
Since this is a new forum I think we should have an introductory post for old and new members alike.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fresh Durian in South Florida (with Video)
« on: January 15, 2012, 01:17:45 PM »
I managed to acquire a fresh (never frozen) Thai durian a few months back and I took it to Harry's house in Davie for a tasting. Here are some pics and a video:

Opening a ripe durian.

I left the durian in my car overnight and the smell remained in the car for over 2 weeks.


Harry staring intensely at the durian.


The remnants.



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Yes, you heard me right. I think the Julie mango may not have originated in the Caribbean. Based on research and speculation, I think it is a possibility that it originated from Réunion, a French island in the Indian Ocean. If not asexually propagated from a tree from Réunion, then I think it may have come from a seedling from a tree there. I will include links to my sources at the end of this post.

For a while I've been searching the internet and books for which Caribbean island was the origin of the Julie mango and always found conflicting answers. Many of the older and more authoritative books and articles state Trinidad and being the origin (Julia Morton was one of those sources). Recently, many sources have claimed that it was from Jamaica. I think those claims are erroneous due to those claims being more recent and not citing to any authority but instead due to it being popular in Jamaica.

I then found a research article that was done on the DNA analysis of mangos that stated Réunion being the origin of the Julie. I checked the references for that article and it pointed to an article from the 1960s by Simon E Malo from TREC that it was from Réunion. That is not enough evidence so I was hoping that there would be conclusive DNA evidence. I did not find anything conclusive but I found another article that had somewhat more detail. Researchers at CIRAD noted that they did not find the Julie mango in Réunion even after testing dozens of mangos there but even though they are clearly different, they share enough alleles to regroup with their set of markers. I am not exactly clear on what that means.

I will continue to update and refine this post as I organize and gather more information.

Sources:
http://www.fshs.org/Proceedings/Password%20Protected/1970%20Vol.%2083/357-362%20%28MALO%29.pdf
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/mango_ars.html
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/23617940/Genetic-diversity-of-Carribbean-mangoes-%28Mangifera-indica-L
http://hortsci.ashspublications.org/content/32/6/1105.full.pdf

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I will be adding to this FAQ over time and I will include a link to a post that answers the question if it cannot be answered in one or two sentences in the FAQ.

1)How do I care for a mail order tree?


2)What type of potting mix should I use?


3)What are everyone's top 5 tropical fruits?


4)What are the best books on tropical fruits?


5)What are the best websites for tropical fruit information?


6)How do you "pug" a tree?


7)Which variety of sapodilla (Manilkara zapota) should I plant?


8)Where can I buy tropical fruit tree seeds online?


9)How do I fertilize my fruit tree?


10)How do I label my trees?


11)What is wrong with my mango tree?


12)Where can I buy tropical fruit online?


HOW TO:

To change the color of the font of a new message or reply from the light grey to black, click the little "Toggle View" button which is the furthest button to the right in the row above the smileys row. We have to thank Oscar for figuring this one out.

Before starting a new topic, please check use the search box to see if the there is already a topic on the subject. Also, please be descriptive in the subject field to avoid ambiguity.

To embed a youtube video, simply post the URL in the body of your post and the video will automatically embed and be viewable after you submit your post.

To post a picture:
  • Above the "smileys", click the button the furthest to the left and it will give you "img/img" (but with brackets) and you paste your URL to your image from your own hosting such as picasa or photobucket.
To display what zone you are in, go to your profile settings and add your city, state, and zone into the "custom title" box.

Here is the USDA plant hardiness zone map: http://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/PHZMWeb/

You can click on Member Map in the menu to see where members are located. At the bottom of the member map is a link for you to add your own 'pin' to the map. That link takes you to your profile where you can ad a pin.

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