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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #400 on: May 14, 2021, 10:23:34 PM »
yes I keep them in my garage most of the time and only move outside for a few hours a day so far.  The temperature is 70+ in the garage all the time and the grow lamp runs 24/7.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #401 on: May 15, 2021, 05:25:03 PM »
Quick update on my trees: One of my Dongkui seems to be dying back further, itís probably on its way out. Luckily, I noticed two small green buds appear on the rootstocks of my other Dongkui and Biqi. Hopefully the roots will continue to grow and they will start to push above the graft.

Master Simon, do you recommend keeping the rootstock growth at this stage?
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« Reply #402 on: May 15, 2021, 06:27:24 PM »
Haha, definitely no master. I am learning everything from Fang, Richard, Marta and from literature and the YouTube videos.

If you see the grafted portion of the tree is drying up indicated by a wrinkled up look, definitely keep the rootstock suckers.

I actually keeping all rootstock suckers at this point because upon further research, the trees grow a dense rounded canopy. Allowing a couple rootstock suckers will not pull as much energy from the grafts as a mango for example. We really do need some male trees and the rootstocks seem to be at least 1-2 years old.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #403 on: May 16, 2021, 09:11:33 AM »
I have around a 4 or 5 year old male if anyone needs scion.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #404 on: May 16, 2021, 10:12:30 AM »
Hi, I sent you a PM

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #405 on: May 16, 2021, 12:03:09 PM »
I have around a 4 or 5 year old male if anyone needs scion.

Wow this is great. A male tree is the most critical missing piece right now. Thanks for offering the scions.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #406 on: May 16, 2021, 02:33:26 PM »
I have around a 4 or 5 year old male if anyone needs scion.

Hey Nattyfroootz,

Thanks for the offer. Can you tell us how youíve been keeping your tree alive? Is it in the ground? If so, did you amend your soil? Do you water with city water, filtered water or Reverse Osmosis water? Any info you can share would be greatly appreciated.

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« Reply #407 on: May 17, 2021, 10:39:46 AM »
I had gotten my tree as a 3 or 4 year old seedling from an online nursery and it was rootbound in a 1g.  I potted it up into a 5, and then a 15 where its been the past year.  It flushes profusely every year and looks much better than the 1 female I had in the ground from the same source (tested by Marta to confirm gender).  I just dug that one up and plan to plant it at my farm where there are patches of CA Native Myrica californica. 

I use FoxFarm OceanForest and water with city water, which is part ground and surface water.  No filtering or anything, I have a chlorine filter on the line but its years old so I'm not sure it's actually doing anything. 
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« Reply #408 on: May 17, 2021, 02:44:02 PM »
Thanks for the information nattyfroootz!

Sounds like the seedlings can take at least some city water. Foxfarm has lots of organic fertilizers incorporated into it so it seem that fertile soils arenít burning your plants so far. Perhaps these trees are hardier than I expected.

I will still baby my plants for now but it is very promising that you have a verified male and also a female plant. Thanks again for the great info!

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #409 on: May 17, 2021, 03:21:21 PM »


Hi Nattyfroootz,still waiting for reply to my PM

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« Reply #410 on: May 17, 2021, 03:39:19 PM »
I had gotten my tree as a 3 or 4 year old seedling from an online nursery and it was rootbound in a 1g.  I potted it up into a 5, and then a 15 where its been the past year.  It flushes profusely every year and looks much better than the 1 female I had in the ground from the same source (tested by Marta to confirm gender).  I just dug that one up and plan to plant it at my farm where there are patches of CA Native Myrica californica. 

I use FoxFarm OceanForest and water with city water, which is part ground and surface water.  No filtering or anything, I have a chlorine filter on the line but its years old so I'm not sure it's actually doing anything.

Good to know. Dis your male tree bloom this year? I wonder how many years it takes for a male seedling tree to produce flowers.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #411 on: May 18, 2021, 05:16:59 PM »
Dongkui dead.
Biqi graft dead, rootstock still green.
Black Peak still green but no buds.

Moved the 2 into shed and added bottom heat.
Should have used smaller pots so bottom heating more effective.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #412 on: May 18, 2021, 10:10:14 PM »
Hereís an update on my trees. I believe my Donkui graft is dead but the rootstock might pop buds, Iím not giving up hope yet.

My Black Peak still has some green on it but itís not doing anything. Hopefully it will push a bud or two soon. If the scion is dead, Iíll use more aggressive fertilizer to try to push the rootstock.

Hereís a few pictures of my Biqi. Itís doing really good and the leaves are expanding fast but I donít see roots at the bottom drainage holes yet. Some actual branches are forming as well.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #413 on: May 18, 2021, 10:13:48 PM »
More Biqi pictures. The largest leaves are over an inch long. Most of the original leaves have fallen off already.



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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #414 on: May 18, 2021, 10:17:16 PM »
Some new buds are also forming and small leaves are starting to pop from them. More Biqi



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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #415 on: May 18, 2021, 10:44:27 PM »
Nicely done Simon!
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #416 on: May 18, 2021, 10:47:57 PM »
I stand by what I said, your results are incredible Simon!
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #417 on: May 19, 2021, 12:38:54 AM »
Looks awesome Simon.   :o  8)
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #418 on: May 19, 2021, 10:52:30 AM »
Very nice Simon, you got the luck of the draw but must be your excellent growing skill's ;) 8)

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #419 on: May 19, 2021, 02:50:37 PM »
Thanks everyone, Iím cautiously optimistic but I know the real difficulties will begin when I try to plant it into the ground. Hereís a picture of the rootstock suckers from this same Biqi. These are very small compared to the grafted scions leaves.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #420 on: May 19, 2021, 04:39:36 PM »
Quick update on my trees and grafts:

Trees:
1 dongkui- dead ☠️
1 dongkui - buds have begun pushing both above and below graft
1 biqi - dead above graft, pushing below graft
1 biqi - still green above/below graft but no swelling

M. Californica grafts:
3x biqi - dead
3x dongkui - green and swelling, not pushing new growth yet.

I definitely think harvesting scions from the trees slowed things down. In retrospect I should have let the biqi do its thing since it was the healthiest.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2021, 04:41:48 PM by Kuhyay »
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« Reply #421 on: May 19, 2021, 05:01:08 PM »
Hey Kenny,

At least it sounds like your Dongkui is doing good so far. Hopefully your grafts will heal over and push soon.

I think we are all learning a lot from this group buy and if thereís another group buy in the future, we will be that much more prepared. If there is a future group buy, Ken already mentioned that he wants it during the cooler months and we would also try to get some grafted male trees.

It will be a while before my plants are large enough to begin my grafting experiments but I already have a few ideas that I hope will work.

Simon


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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #422 on: May 19, 2021, 05:11:27 PM »
Hereís my progress.

The Dongkui graft has died but the rootstock is still alive. Not pushing any buds either.

All of the branches on my an hai have died but there is still a grafted portion on the trunk that is still green. No buds pushing.

The Biqi is pushing many buds. No full leaves yet.





The black peak is doing the best and has even more buds than the biqi. I think there will be some actual leaves soon.







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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #423 on: May 19, 2021, 07:02:35 PM »
Fruitkid374,

Your Black Peak and Biqi are looking good. Thatís how my trees looked before they pushed their leaves.

At this point, if you see your buds are getting larger, thatís a great sign you will get a flush soon.

What kind of water are you watering your trees with? Iím hoping to eventually acclimate my trees to city water.

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« Reply #424 on: May 19, 2021, 07:45:27 PM »
FruitKid374, impressed by your successes on BiQi and Black Peak. Especially BP - I didn't see many successes so far, and mine is green but there is no bud.

Please keep us updated about your progress.

 

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