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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Why are my mandarin grafts struggling?
« on: June 09, 2023, 10:23:27 PM »
I would baby them as Millet has suggested. If that does not work, you may have a slight graft incompatibility issue. From what I have read mandarins are typically compatible with sour orange, but there are exceptions.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: The Situation on Citrus Greening? Does Florida Still Produce OJ?
« on: June 07, 2023, 06:36:54 PM »
Quote from: pagnr on June 07, 2023, 04:10:40 PM
Huanglongbing, China? Seams like there's some bad stuff coming in from China lately... Or maybe I am just to cynical..

Maybe a leap too far ?
Huanglongbing is just the Chinese name of a widespread Citrus disease.
I would be more inclined to blame the Romans. So many plant and animal disease organisms have Latin names !
As for Huanglongbing, it is more commonly known as HLB. Blame the Corporations ?
Interesting that the Australian Citrus species have resistance to HLB, even though we don't have the bacteria that cause it or the insect vector.
Maybe something carried from the ancient past in the plant genes.
A very strong case for the conservation of ecosystems and plant species.
Who would have thought ' Finger Limes " could be so important to the future of the Orange Juice Industry ?
You never know what else you may need from wild plants in the future ?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2023-05-30/gympie-native-lime-fighting-citrus-disease/102386570?fbclid=IwAR3lAZ583jDubc6ZG9VFl-uOhBUbCSssV0902qZSru_iW0K2KC2bwdY7GQE

You make a good point, but in this case the disease did come from China.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://cisr.ucr.edu/invasive-species/huanglongbing-hlb-or-citrus-greening&ved=2ahUKEwja0Z6OnLL_AhXlfjABHcMLAXgQFnoECB8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw1yV8XDFOZcRMmePQzQyCro

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ISO: Emperor Lychees
« on: June 07, 2023, 02:42:15 PM »
Its a bit early for Emperor. Although, I suppose there might be some.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: June 06, 2023, 10:14:06 PM »
Interesting, I have never eaten the skin.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: June 06, 2023, 07:42:58 PM »
Quote from: EddieF on June 06, 2023, 06:19:29 PM
Flip, another chance to spray something.  For a few panicles, zep bottle with sulfur water ain't that hard.

Cogshall- had my 2nd ever & this one i waited till i smelled mango passing by counter.
Much better, sweet enough, ate half with skin.  Still needed water afterwards cause it felt & tasted like i ate alot of pepper.  Is pepper taste normal?

Not to my palate... Cogshall is one of my favorites.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: June 05, 2023, 07:20:37 PM »
Quote from: fliptop on June 05, 2023, 06:25:49 PM
Nam Doc Mai #4 trying again. Lost the first two rounds of blooms to Powdery Mildew.



Mango bloom in June? Fruit won't be ripe until Christmas!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Happy donut day
« on: June 04, 2023, 01:55:50 PM »
Quote from: shot on June 03, 2023, 10:38:21 PM
How about a mango filled donut !

Sounds good. Anyone have a good recipee for mango jam?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Happy donut day
« on: June 04, 2023, 01:54:47 PM »
Quote from: pagnr on June 03, 2023, 04:12:43 PM
Krispy Kreme came to Australia about 10 years ago. It was a big hype at the time. They are sold about 100 km from here, so we sometimes get them if we are going past.
Australia also has food vans selling hot strawberry jam filled donuts. They are flat tennis ball sized, not donut shaped.
( After we closed the Hole in the Ozone Layer, we then closed the Hole in the Donut. ).
Pineapple icing glazed donuts from 7-11 were very popular, especially with pot smokers with the late night munchies.

Krispy Kream has those, too. They are even the shape you describe. I wonder if they brought that idea back from Australia...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Alpine strawberries from seed in subtropical Florida
« on: June 04, 2023, 01:07:46 PM »
Berries are probably small because they were from hybrid fruit. Plant seeds from your largest fruts and keep selecting for larger tastier fruit. I think if we could get enough people to plant seeds from locally grown strawberries we would eventually get a good quality heirloom that could be propagated by seed.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Squash identification
« on: June 04, 2023, 12:31:53 PM »
If it is prolific but not very sweet, you could use it as a summer squash. Seminole makes a decent summer squash--the texture is just a little more coarse than a zucchini.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Tromboncino Summer Squash for Florida
« on: June 03, 2023, 10:38:15 PM »
I have grown summer squash (Curcubita pepo) here in Florida for a number if years. This species includes acorn, spaghetti, yellow crookneck, and zucchini squashes. They are susceptible to mildew and bugs. This year, I tried growing Tromboncino squash instead. This is an Italian heirloom summer squash in the Curcubita moschata species. Moschata squashes are resistant to bugs like squash vine borer (note: resistant--not immune). Some moschata squashes like Seminole Pumpkin are also resistant to mildew. They also make massive vines instead of a bush like the pepo squashes. I am very pleased to report that the Tromboncino was a huge success. I planted around Valentine's day and the vines are still going strong at the beginning of June with only about 10% of the pest and disease issues I had with the pepo squashes. The flavor is fine textured and excellent--like a good zucchini. I have been giving squashes away for weeks and have a dozen in the fridge now. All of this is from 4 hills with about 5 seeds each! The only down side is that they have taken up about a 30 x 12 space in my garden and are still growing. I have let a few fruits mature and they are like a massive butternut squash with a super long neck (or a Tahetian Melon squash if you are familiar with that). I can't comment on the flavor of the mature squash yet, but I hear they are like a butternut. They appear to have slightly less resistance to mildew than the Seminole, but still very good.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Squash identification
« on: June 03, 2023, 09:54:09 PM »
It sure sounds like a hybrid with Seminole. I have a bunch of Seminole pumpkins that I am growing this year with different shapes, but none look like that one. The mottling would indicate that it is a moschatta squash of some kind (like Seminole and Calabaza). Moschatta and pepo squashes almost never hybridize outside a lab from the research I have read. When they do, pepo is the female. Here is an interesting article if interspecific hybridization interests you.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369414894_Interspecific_hybridization_for_transfer_of_hull-less_seed_trait_from_Cucurbita_pepo_to_C_moschata&ved=2ahUKEwj5t_bzv6j_AhUFQTABHTfCDwIQFnoECBQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2rh0jJwIW1MH9xIFU6oUYL

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: dioscorea Light Requirements
« on: June 03, 2023, 09:37:38 PM »
Mine here in Florida grow fine in full sun as long as they have something to climb. I have noticed that young tender vines get burnt if they are laying on the ground. Once they are up on the pole they seem to be fine with full sun. In the wild (both where they are native and here in Florida) they grow in forested environments. So, when the vines are yoing they are in the shade. As they get older they make it to the tops of the trees and get full sun.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Happy donut day
« on: June 03, 2023, 02:03:42 PM »
Quote from: palmcity on June 03, 2023, 11:51:58 AM
Quote from: Galatians522 on June 03, 2023, 10:13:11 AM
There is no substitute for Krispy Kream donuts.
My wife prefers the cake donuts as well as ice cream with multiple tastes vs. my favorite vanilla bean.

Down to business buddy, She & You are WRONG... haha... just kidding... Everyone is right on their taste bud palate...

So far 8am Glen mango & 11am finished off the 2 delicious Glazed donuts after 30 sec. microwave meltdown.




My sister-in-law perfers the Dunkin cake type donuts... I don't understand it. Wal-Mart donuts aren't too bad, just not top tier to put it in mango terms.  ;)

Actually, what we need on this thread is a recipe for mango donuts. I'm thinking mango filling or even a mango glaze. Now that would be something!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Why has my Sugar Belle stopped growing?
« on: June 03, 2023, 10:24:43 AM »
Quote from: Seanny on May 31, 2023, 11:28:45 PM
Sounds like we should air-layer Sugar Belle to use as rootstock.

There has actually been some research done on that by University of Florida.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Happy donut day
« on: June 03, 2023, 10:13:11 AM »
There is no substitute for Krispy Kream donuts.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Smallest airlayer you got to work?
« on: June 02, 2023, 02:05:20 PM »
I tend to like 3/4" to 1" branches for air layering lychee. I have used 1/4" for miracle fruit and occasionally for lychee.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Happy donut day
« on: June 02, 2023, 02:03:32 PM »
Nice! Most of the mangos I have access to are still green.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I am just about ready to throw in the towel on Lychee
« on: May 30, 2023, 10:01:41 PM »
Quote from: Orkine on May 30, 2023, 09:48:57 PM
Is there a safe way of disposing of the infected branches?
I fear leaving by the roadside for hauling company may result of its incorporating into free mulch, spreading the disease.

I cant burn, I think we may still have a burn ban and may just get stuff airborne.

Any suggestions?

I remember reading that you could also burry them. However, this might be a good opportunity to convince everyone that you need a flamethrower... ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Physalis Species Review
« on: May 30, 2023, 09:58:37 PM »
For what it is worth, the Cape Goseberry (Physalis  peruviana) tends to be more resistant (showing very few galls) according to a research paper I found. New Hannover ground cherry definitely suffers from galling at my location. Japanese Lantern (Physalis alkekengi) is basically immune according to the study.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325000176_Difference_in_Meloidogyne_incognita_propagation_among_ground_cherry_species&ved=2ahUKEwjegsO3up7_AhWcZTABHTmFDcgQFnoECB8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3U_f9z1Vg39641CNtOKpzc

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango allergies - home remedies?
« on: May 30, 2023, 09:48:46 PM »
Urushiol is typically the allergen that causes the issue in mango. So, anything used for poison ivy should help. This is what worked the best for my mom (who is very allergic to mango sap). It is expensive, but the price is well worth it to end the misery.

https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjg8r-ut57_AhWRxYYKHZjdDcgYABAKGgJ2dQ&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAASJuRo2N62FjOhKS7FvqtnciJggwep-MMHQhynFzdBGSw36xxqCvW0&sig=AOD64_0etGvU6ei1mmQuX3VTpNpC2HIO9A&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwiKurmut57_AhWIpYQIHQt6AOwQwg8oAHoECAUQIA&adurl=

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Finding Land in South FL
« on: May 30, 2023, 09:42:45 PM »
You might be able to lease land fairly cheaply under certain circumstances.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I am just about ready to throw in the towel on Lychee
« on: May 29, 2023, 10:37:42 PM »
We have had to continue spraying. Maybe the pressure will let up eventually when the trees that are not being maintained finally die. Lychees are going to be a lot more expensive going forward in any case. SweetHeart in particular seems to be susceptible. I have seen less damage on Brewster for some reason??? I also believe that dry weather favors the mite.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Strange happenings - what is eating my mango
« on: May 29, 2023, 10:29:06 PM »
It is a rodent for sure. Squirrels are the most likely culprit in my part of the state, but it could very easily be rats. Rats tend to do their work at night and squirrels do it durring the day. Unfortunately, my experience with pest control runs along these lines: if its fast and legal its not good, if its good and legal its not fast, if its fast and good...its not legal.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Finding Land in South FL
« on: May 29, 2023, 05:00:54 PM »
Quote from: Jaboticaba45 on May 29, 2023, 03:35:27 PM
So,
I had a dream of getting land down in FL. Just right now, the funds for getting several acres in prime location is just not available to someone like me lol.
So, thing is, is it plausible to find a decent land (1/4 acre) for under 10k?
I found a few places I like, but what is everyone's thoughts on that? It would be bare minimum with no water, electricity, etc.
It seems like inland FL is really cheap. Anything by the coast is too expensive.
Lake Placid seems pretty cool, area looked cheap, and it looks like I could exploit the microclimate of the lakes in the area to be able to grow some stuff (mangoes, bananas, lychee, jabos...)
https://www.landsearch.com/properties/792-amour-dr-lake-placid-fl-33852/2590886
Something like this?
So, can someone tell me am I just going crazy, or is this something plausible? Good idea or super stupid?
What else do I need to consider?

I am very familiar with Lake Placid. It does have a micro-climate, but anything near enough to a lake to get a significant lake effect will be way more expensive than what you mentioned. I looked at the lot you linked. That is in an old subdivision that never had roads built. The state has bought most of the lots around that property because the native scrub habitat has a lot of endangered plants and wild life (gopher tortoise and sand skink). So, access is limited and you may never be able to build on it (if that is important to you). Technically, there is a platted road there, but I don't know if they would let you clear it without mitigating (buying conservation land for the state in exchange for building rights). You might look at it on the Highlands County Property Appraiser's Office website or better yet, call them and talk to them about it--they usually have a good feel for what things are worth (as much as I hate to admitt that when my tax bill comes, lol!).

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hcpao.org/&ved=2ahUKEwi084XyqJv_AhWCRTABHRtXDfQQFnoECBkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3uuHkzFXvISwMzw-BJTHXc

In any case, my advice with Real estate is to never buy anything that you have not seen in person--especially in Florida. I know of a guy who bought 2.4 acres at an auction for just a couple grand. It turned out to be a 30' wide drainage easment with a ditch down the middle.  :o :'(

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