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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Flush Leaf Curl?
« on: September 26, 2024, 07:39:17 PM »
Looks like fertilizer burn.

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The slope should be excellent, they seem not to mind the heavy soil as long as there is no standing water.

They do get huge on their own and produce excellent nuts, but their main limiting factors are Rodent predation and excess nutrient load on the soil.

If you plant away from power lines and fences, and put an apron on the tree you can stop the rodents from eating the nuts in the canopy, and if you plant in the most nutrient deprived portion of the area you can potentially avoid the second issue.

There are types with wavy, spiky leaves and ones with smooth bordered leaves (often referred to as 'Hawaiian types')

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which atemoya is this
« on: September 26, 2024, 07:32:33 PM »
Looks similar to a Leo #3 which is an AP seedling.

Leo #3 is a late fruiter, usually in a couple months from now in SoCal.

It has a firm, segmented flesh with a typical Sugarapple aroma and a high acidity (for an atemoya).

The seediness varies, but I think Leo#3 has a good return on flesh to seed ratio given the excellent texture (like a firm jak).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overloaded White Sapote tree
« on: September 26, 2024, 07:29:04 PM »
I don't know if there is such a thing as an overloaded white sapote tree.

They seem to not understand the meaning of such logic.

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Flavor being aroma, you should explore the variety of mangoes, there's a huge range of turpene possibilities.

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You probably haven't had a choice ST yet. It took me a few tries.

I am completely willing to sample more before making a decision  ;D

Another option that caught my attention is Imam Pasand or Alampur Baneshan because of the flavor profile. It sounds similar in taste to Ice Cream, but with possibly better production and disease resistance? From my reading opinions seem split on the flavor. Another one I need to taste!

Interesting choice of words.
The variety that we have here fulfilling the role for both is a splitter, so you may be better off planting White Pirie.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chilean Cherimoya ID
« on: September 01, 2024, 07:22:53 PM »
It's a Cherimoya, not the Concha Lisa however.

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I think it's likely Chloride, which Mangoes can tolerate, but make sure to not let it dry out too much or overapply.

They also prefer a high Calcium to Potassium ratio, so if you do apply the powder, make sure to apply significantly more Calcium.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for some Mango Scions
« on: August 20, 2024, 12:34:27 PM »
did you try raw honey yet? I don’t see this one talked about much on here but it’s supposed to have a citrus profile as well right?
Search for Shwehintha. That was it's name before Zill rebranding.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Late Season & Big
« on: August 19, 2024, 09:28:23 PM »
I'm a fan, Keitt is an impressive fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya plant/tree shape
« on: August 05, 2024, 02:14:50 PM »
It's a tree that produces large fruit so you really should put in the ground if you expect it to fruit.

You might try a Pawpaw. Those should do well especially an early variety.

As far as fruiting a cherimoya, the best results come from coppacing and maintaining a short plant with many leaders. Due to the perpendicular branching, these leaders are usually removed every other year with the goal of having a new set of vertical branches each year. This works well with your plan of keeping the tree small, but the roots have to be somewhat extensive to support a multiple pound fruit to maturity.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help identifying a mango cultivar
« on: August 04, 2024, 04:27:44 AM »
The color of the flesh was yellow, with a slightly mushy texture. The mangos lightened from a dark green to a lighter green, but never showed any color except for a little yellow on the shoulders. The flavor was hard to describe, but I didn’t taste much, if any, coconut. It didn’t ripen evenly.

That's Sugarloaf. Being so coastal, you will get many more fruit than those who grow it inland. Give the tree a few years to establish before judging the fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help identifying a mango cultivar
« on: August 03, 2024, 06:48:25 PM »
Looks like Sugarloaf/E4

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Hey, All.

Is there anywhere in Socal that I can buy a Coconut Cream, Fruit Punch, or a Miyazaki mango to try? I don't want to spend $130 for essentially 2-3 mangoes from florida.

No.

But I can tell you to ignore Irwin, it's no good.

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So in the case of Lemon Meringue, if you have a couple seed grown ones are you likely to get similar fruit compared to a grafted one? Also is fruit delayed several years as well?

Not necessarily, break open the husk first.
Last year I was 3/3 mono PPK seeds, and they all had very appealing sap smells, one of which resembled PPK.

Delay depends on climate and specific variety. ETA in Cali is 3 years until bloom. In FL probably more like 7

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If you have the space, plant them out, and the worst that happens is you end up top working the tree.

At the stage they are at, you can crush the leaves and smell them to eliminate off-types, but no sure thing for selecting a clone, enhanced probability, yes.


FWIW I planted a few OS seeds last year, and most had identical sap smells when crushed at that stage, there were 2 obvious off types, which I mark and separate.

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Not 100%, you could get an identical seedling, or a zygotic one with differences.

The LaVerne company sells manila seedlings in HD and Lowes and other nurseries in California labelled incorrectly as manila. Without growing it out, you won't know for sure unless there's sure signs of differences between seedling and parent, like How LZ is so different from PPK despite being a seedling.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherilata or reticulata
« on: July 22, 2024, 08:41:12 PM »
Then Pierce is the best, it has the Guanabana flavor in good years.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango ID please???
« on: July 19, 2024, 10:32:20 PM »
Orange Essence is a firm fleshed fruit like Kent.

Though the shape is wrong, the taste and texture description remind me a lot of Peach Cobbler/O2

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help Identifying a mango tree.
« on: July 19, 2024, 10:29:01 PM »
Looks a little like Neelam. Is the tree dwarf?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Zill Mango Seeds for sale
« on: July 17, 2024, 06:45:04 PM »
Is Cac poly?

All the seeds I've sprouted were poly and it's a very fast grower.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: July 17, 2024, 06:40:16 PM »
I’m not going to lie. With all these new varieties, you sort of lose track that some of the older mango’s still taste great. This past weekend, I stopped at one of the old Merritt Island mango growers. They only had a few varieties left but one was a Springfels. It had a little fiber but nothing that distracted from the experience. The mango was huge, probably 2.5 lbs and had a very strong orange-citrus flavor with a nice level of acidity. I only ate half that day because I wouldn’t be able to eat dinner if I had the whole thing. I put the rest in the frig and had it the next day.

Springfels is the parent of Pineapple Pleasure, said to be an 'Improved Springfels'

Definitely one of the more popular of the new ones.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango ID please???
« on: July 17, 2024, 05:03:01 PM »
The tree did have long leaves. The unripe mango was orange near the seed and the flesh got lighter in color toward the skin and near the skin was almost white. Sounds like you nailed it Oolie. The thing that confuses me is they taste just like an orange and super sweet. Best fruit I have ever put in my mouth.
Pettigrew is suppose to be in the coconut group, these two I would say should belong in the citrus group. Could be a seedling. Next time I am over there, I will look for a graft union on the trunk.

Commonly referred to as the 'Gary' Flavor, it originally comes from Pettigrew. The flavor is like an orange creamsicle/ 50-50 bar type flavor.

It's a nice mellow citrus flavor that is well represented in descendants like O2/Peach Cobbler.
The Coconut flavor of Pettigrew/descendants is only for fruit that make it to riper stages without breakdown, so the tree requires more Ca/ earlier fruit picking for the fruit to get there without off flavors/ jelly seed. If you search these boards Pettigrew has a following for the ON years.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango ID please???
« on: July 17, 2024, 01:19:24 AM »
Pettigrew only has darker flesh in the center/overly ripe, usually it's a whiter flesh.

Maybe its related.

On another note, I've suspected that Pettigrew is poly for a few years, but noone has found evidence to back it up.

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