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I was really curious and had to zoom in. Where is the pub? Whatís their best drink?

It is in the far Northeast part of the greenhouse.  Right by the furnace for chilly evenings.
They serve awesome margaritas (or whatever is in my fridge at the moment!), but my little parrots prefer the taste of blended grasshoppers.  They eat my mint, so maybe it is familiar...

And Nick, the solution to your problem is obvious - you need a bigger greenhouse! Mine has doubled in size since I originally calculated how much room I would need.

I agree, Tropicaltoba. One of the best things about my greenhouse is being able yo enjoy it! I don't move plants outside. The high desert sun bakes them. Have enough fans in the summer that it is pleasant year-round.
Plus, there is always the pub...

In case the print is too small or blurry to read, it says "The Laughing Impala Pub, est 2018"

OMG, and I thought MY greenhouse was full!
Your plants look like they are ready to break thrpugh the roof and escape...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / olive tree seedlings chill hours?
« on: October 27, 2023, 03:33:05 PM »
I have read that to produce fruit, olive trees need chill hours. Mine are seedlings, and 4-18 inches tall. Do they need chill hours, or can I leave them in my greenhouse all winter? Minimum temp in here is 50 f.


Just had our first frost last night, and yesterday there was snow in the foothills. Totally overcast this morning and feels like snow.
But it's 65 and sunny in The Commonwealth of North Daintree, aka my greenhouse...

Any chance it is being Zoomed?

Carolyn (in Idaho...)

Cocona are spineless. Lulo have spines and are purple-ish.



I have slogged down that same rough road.  My trees are really big, and many times I can't see pests (almost exclusively mealybugs) until the population is high. The beneficials I introduce can't reproduce as fast so the mealy bugs gain the upper hand.  If the mealybbug population is too low, the beneficials starve.

I also need to be really careful with sprays because of my birds.  I have had horrible luck with oils sprays. My plants with fuzzy leaves just curl up and die. And mealy bugs are very hard to kill. My granddaughter did a science experiment last year and we treated mealy bugs with several things including hort oil and rubbing alcoho. Slowed them down, but they recovered in days. We watched new hatchlings crawl around with the aid of my USB microscope. Speaking of birds though, the one pest I can control are earwigs. The quail love them!

For everything else I use systemics.  I can treat two or three times and it drops the nuisance bug population down to nil, then I monitor and only use it again when I see problems.  So I sort of get into a cycle of three treatments, go two years in peace, three more treatments, etc.

I do have to spray the spider mites, so I drag what I can onto the greenhouse porch, and for the rest I shift the birds into the tropical house to treat the orangerie, hose down the bark floor to wash any dripped stuff away,  let it dry thoroughly, then reverse.

Guess that's the price for operating in a closed system...


Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Blackberry seeds
« on: October 22, 2023, 09:52:25 AM »
Sorry, I didn't read the initial post closely enough to see that he was talking about FROZEN fruit. I agree with Galatians...


I have grown these both from seed.
My first thought is that are you SURE you have Lulo, and not Cocona (S. sessiliflorum)?
Lulo does come up pretty quickly, I think about 10-14 days.  However, Cocona can take several months. It is weird that way, compared to other nightshades. I agree with you that nightshades are usually pretty speedy germinators.
And I can't say I have ever had a "bad" batch of Lulo seeds.  They last a long time in storage, like most nightshades, and I have planted seeds that are several years old and had good luck.
Where did you get them? If it was EBay or Etsy, they may be mislabeled, so I would give the seeds more time (if you want Cocona...).


Yeah, every time they do DNA tests, they move a whole bunch of plants around. Everything is in flux.

Heck, back when I went to college, pandas weren't bears!

Thanks, that was fun to watch!
As far as the taste descriptions being "off", I know my husband and I can eat the same fruit and give totally different taste descriptions. Weird how that happens.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: why are my bananas small?
« on: October 16, 2023, 08:28:59 PM »
Yeah, I've plants that have eaten my greenhouse before! Get a dwarf cav!


So I just bought a 4 ft x 16 ft hog panel and cut it into 2 ft pieces.  Made a triangle, and set it on the pot.
The plants are not doing it justice right now because I just whacked it down after blooming.  It was draping over the top. What I need to do is put pipe insulation along the top to help them from breaking from the weight.

There is only one species - monstera deliciosa. Borsigiana is a variety that is variegated.  The fruit is also frquently variegated. I think that does affect the taste.
For taste and size, I do prefer the non-variegated variety, but criminy, the thing just takes over my greenhouse!!!
If I let it climb, it blocks the light for other plants. If I let it crawl, it uses up all my floor space.
Sort of like, pretty, edible kudzu...


Mine grow up a triangular cage made of heavy wire "hog panels".

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: why are my bananas small?
« on: October 16, 2023, 08:45:41 AM »
Thanks folks, for all the tips!
I was suspecting that pot size was probably the most limiting factor.  I do feed it extremely heavily and lots of water.

As for plant size, it is ceiling height - 10' 6". The pseudostem is over 8 inches across at the base, and is over my head height. I "train" the leaves to bend down with a  weighted hook my hubby made, so it doesn't try to push through the roof.
I would love to plant it in the ground, but I have a hard time because of our huge maple tree roots.  I also worry about soil temps and our heavy clay soil.  But I may try seeing if I can make a hole this go-round.
Does the hole need to be deep? Maybe I could try a raised bed, and give it more width.

Epicatt, you said your plant bloomed several times? I always whack mine down after fruiting. I thought bananas only bloomed once... am I jumping the gun?
Whatever mine is, I will keep saving a pup a year and making tasty little bananas.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / why are my bananas small?
« on: October 15, 2023, 10:56:56 AM »
So, I have been growing bananas for years in my greenhouse in a 25 gallon pot. I am on my tenth generation, I think. I get fruit every year, and save one or two pups each time.
The original corm was purchsed from Going Bananas as a Double Mahoi. Forget the double part. NEVER done that.
My plants gets heaps of water, fertilizer and sun. Has about 100 bananas set on now (that always all ripen at once! Argh!)
But the bananas are always small. About half sized. They taste heavenly.
Now, I don't mind the small size because we have grandkids and neighbor kids who like little bananas.

But I am wondering what causes the small size?
Not enough fertilizer or water? They get Miracle Grow at twice the label amount, frequent water, well-draining soil.
Pot too small?
Not really Double Mahoi?

Any ideas?


I also notice that these are perfectly ripe when only half yellow. I they turn totally yellow the fruit is brown and mushy.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Blackberry seeds
« on: October 15, 2023, 10:32:02 AM »
Yes, but they need to be cold stratified after planting. Buying refrigerated fruit doesn't count. I don't know if they grow true to the parent, however.

I like the challenge of growing things from seed, even if it takes longer. Makes them feel truly mine.


I used to mix up all sorts of stuff, when my back was younger and stronger. Now I buy the bales of Kellogg raised bed mix and cut it about 60/40 with perlite. Because there is a perlite mine here in Idaho, I can get it really cheap, but I also have recently started using Turface, which I love. Right now I am about 60% raised bed mix, 30% perlite and 10% Turface. Then, because I keep worms, I always dump in a bunch of worm compost, nice and dried out. 
With my bigger 25-35 gallon pots, I have drilled 2" holes around the sides. Stuff falls out at first, but not too bad.  I do this because I really want some RootMaker pots and tried to copy the concept just a little.
Last year I grew mushrooms in the holes!
I also put medium chunk bark on the tops, to keep the perlite from all drifting to the top.
I have over a hundredd trees in pots in my greenhouse. The really big ones rarely get repotted unless I have some srious help.


That is sad.  Your tree may be a goner.
This looks like damage from voles to me.  I had two voles set up housekeeping in my greenhouse one winter and they girdled half my trees.  It is their go-to tactic.
While sowbugs and pillbugs are capable of eating tiny, soft seedlings, they don't have chompers to eat through bark.  They may be attracted to the sap.
Get some traps and put them around your pots.  Or better yet, repot the trees.  I had meadow-mouse voles, and they had actually moved INTO the pots, made tunnels and eaten half the roots to the trees. I think you have these in California also.
Good luck!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Godzilla in Thailand
« on: October 08, 2023, 10:03:21 AM »
I actually had a Nile monitor as a pet, years ago, and her name was Godzilla, for exactly the reasons we see in your pics! I still have a couple scars from her. Once they bite, they don't let go, they just keep shaking you until you rip apart into bite-sized pieces.  Used to use a spray bottle of vodka to spray her face so she would let go. Switched to rubbing alcohol when my son drank the vodka.

After she got loose and attacked my little dog then cornered my cat on top of the fridge, my boyfriend said it was him or the lizard. Married 23 years, no regrets, and no 6 ft lizard (didn't kill her, actually found her a home...)!

I did find that hotwire can work quite well, especially if you use the wide orange hot "tape".  Godzilla did not break through the tape, my son had turned it off to clean her cage and forgot to plug it in again. They WILL continue to test it, so you can't train them like a horse, but it does keep them out, or in. And it is very cheap compared to other fencing. The optimal height for my situation was 4-6 inches, but a double strand at 6 and 12 might be best for you, given the size of your lizards.

Good luck!

Mine went for a couple of years in the greenhouse.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rollinia Hand Pollination Support Request
« on: October 04, 2023, 09:06:54 AM »
Whoop whoop!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rollinia Hand Pollination Support Request
« on: October 04, 2023, 08:39:44 AM »
Does this method apply to soursop, custard apple and sugar apple also? I have a rollinia, plus the ones I just mentioned.  None of them have made fruit but they do flower quite well.


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