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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New bees in my yard
« on: May 22, 2021, 11:03:02 AM »
If you don't have them removed just be careful around them and avoid them especially on a lawn mower. People die every year from mowing too close to a hive.

Congrats, I hope your hand pollination is successful!

Still no flowers on my trees, 4 of which are between 4ft and 5.5ft tall.

Thanks, that's about the size the males started flowering so you are not far off. My female is more like 6ft. If your tree(s) end up females I could always give you male pollen. Obviously only female trees hold fruit.

oh i see i see...  i had a fleeting moment of hope there haha..  ok i'll just wait around for the other trees i suppose. 

Oscar you remember selling me these trees 3 years ago??  haha   your babies are growing up over here in kona! 

Also my achacha tree is probably 10-11 feet tall now.. looks amazing i'm thinking it will probably fruit next year
Great to hear your plants are doing so well. I think i recall my button mangosteen flowering two years with male flowers before i fianlly got a female to flower.

Exactly my experience. Males have been flowering for a couple years but now a female has finally revealed herself. Just pollinated her with some fresh male flower pollen. Now the wait...

Cuban may beetle/June bug. Native toads love to eat them

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangosteen unprotected in San Diego
« on: April 01, 2021, 07:14:32 PM »
The leaves do not look like typical garcinia mangostana to me. The leaves are too long and narrow. The lateral ribbing should be symmetrical and well defined.  The tip should extend to a point.

Here is a pic of genuine mangosteen.

Maybe your friend is growing Mexican mangosteen


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Recent TreesNMore Visit
« on: March 30, 2021, 06:48:35 PM »
Hard to decide, should I do a eulogy or a Roast?

2-9 x-1 - 6 = +1

A OK, A good listener, I know cause he listens to my BS, makes a good wine & puts squirrels to rest... Get your refills here...

Don't tell everyone about that wine! Need him to save some for my next trip.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Recent TreesNMore Visit
« on: March 29, 2021, 02:50:25 PM »
Mike is a great guy. Always have enjoyed my visits over there.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Extinct Florida Variety Peach Trees?
« on: March 14, 2021, 04:44:51 PM »
People may still have those varieties in the ground somewhere. Likely your best bet. The varieties I usually see available here are UF Sun, Tropic Beauty, Tropic Snow, and Florida Prince.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: garcinia madroņo
« on: March 14, 2021, 10:47:50 AM »
I found a pic of my madruno flowers. There is one in the upper right corner  that has 4 lobes, how I assume the TARS fruits look when at that stage. All these aborted. I have not seen a male flower on this tree yet.

Strange. Maybe it's just practicing  ;D
Just checked my tree again, another flower set fruit. 2/2 so far. Will see if they abort..

I believe Sadhu donated a sweet madrono selection to TARS many years ago. It was a nice big fruiting tree before Hurricane Maria. I wonder if the tree survived the storm. I got many of my madrono seeds from him.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: garcinia madroņo
« on: March 13, 2021, 10:20:11 PM »
Just noticed one of my madronos today set a fruit. Almost 7 years old. Others around the same age haven't yet produced, hopefully next year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Squirrels
« on: March 07, 2021, 10:11:16 AM »
@dwfl, I wonder if you taxidermy 100 or so squirrels and place them on top of your perimeter fence whether it'd confuse the hell out of them, terrify them, or just plain make too many obstacles for them to get past!

  ;D  That might even have the added benefit of scaring away any potential two legged fruit thieves.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Squirrels
« on: March 06, 2021, 10:18:58 AM »

Fun little squirrel project.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon drop mangosteen ?
« on: March 03, 2021, 10:22:21 AM »
Its more prevalent here because it fruits at a younger age and smaller tree size than most garcinia species and can take some cold. Taste is an acid/sweet mix but not much flesh in each fruit. Some consider them sour but I think they have a nice balance of sweet and sour.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon drop mangosteen ?
« on: March 03, 2021, 10:07:14 AM »
My lemon drop tree doesn't take much of a break. Its either flowering or fruiting most of the year. Cool tree to have around... small fruits but extremely productive in full sun. Less productive without full sun. Mr. Painter had a big one that snapped near the base in 2004 Hurricane Charley and it has since grown back into a nice big tree. If I was up in St Pete I'd give it a shot.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon drop mangosteen ?
« on: March 01, 2021, 06:56:05 PM »
Someone you know got mangosteens to grow in zone 9b? I know lemondrops are supposedly more hardy, but I thought even 10b was too cold for them.

Most of the american garcinia species are more cold tolerant than purple mangosteen (garcinia mangostana).

Good luck! I've wondered if pawpaw would grow wherever you're at in the bay area. Give it a shot. There is a grower in the San Joaquin Valley (Lagier Ranches) who grows them or at least they did at one time. Not sure if they still grow them, might want to check in with them.

The first reply in this thread was probably the best one imo. Bush said it was a swamp rootstock and that it wouldn't be a good rootstock in Northern California (Bay Area). More accurately its a swamp rootstock that grows nowhere in the USA other than South Florida where soil and climate is almost polar opposite to that of anywhere in norcal. Very simply it would likely be a poor species choice for any purpose where you are. They grow like weeds here so if you're having trouble with them something is definitely wrong.

And to be fair, you were the first person in this thread that brought up the quality (or lack thereof) of the fruit. Even though most with experience know this fruit to be poor eating quality, nobody chimed in this thread to say the fruit is trash except you. I agree that the quality of the fruit means little to nothing if it doesn't grow in your climate and soil. There should be some Annona species you can grow where you're at... find them!

There is no point to growing pond apple in the Bay Area . Its a swamp rootstock.


They grow wild on the edges of water sources here in south FL.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia macrophylla looking fruit
« on: February 14, 2021, 06:03:56 PM »
Syntata, Yes that's it.
Mike, the tree is very big, you should read the whole link, you will check it ... I also want to tell you that 2 months after he sent the seeds, a category 5 cyclone swept the island,  I don't know if that only tree survived.
I now own that property the tree was grown on. today I found at least 15 different medium to large sized garcinia trees(not including purple mangosteen), with thousands of seedlings underneath them. only one tree I was able to identify as achachairu since it had 2 fruits. I need to clear around the trees since they are all shaded from weed trees and that should help them start flowering and fruiting again and I can identify them.

So glad someone bought that property and plans to utilize it. Best of luck.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia macrophylla looking fruit
« on: February 14, 2021, 06:01:52 PM »
Anyone growing or fruiting G. macrophylla in Florida? Supposedly hardy to 31F.

Yep, they grow well but like a sheltered area to grow up and out of. Big lengthy tree, long leaves. Naples botanical garden had a 30ft fruiting specimen before Irma took it out in 2017. That tree was already 20ft tall and about as wide when it first produced. I have a couple around 15ft and they probably need another year or two until they flower.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia macrophylla looking fruit
« on: February 14, 2021, 09:55:28 AM »
G. macrophylla, also called pungara. Photo from Jim in Ecuador.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Olives
« on: February 07, 2021, 03:51:34 PM »
I've seen some big beautiful olive trees down here in SFL but haven't seen them produce. Must need colder winters to produce but they do grow.

Ok Jim West doesn't recognise it so its none of the ones I mentioned as possibilities and I know its isn't San Carlos so what could this species masquerading as the Mexican be? There are only two possibilities and one of these involves getting something right by accident. First option is that it is the rare Atlantic coast bicuda which I received seeds from Brazil on one occasion and saw one fruit picture of and it doesn't seem to match. The other more likely explanation is that mis-identified Brazilian Garcinia seeds received by me were labelled as G.macrophylla afterwards due to the resemblance to seedlings of that Garcinia which is known and loved in Ecuador. The Garcinia known in Brazil is different and likely to a different species as the fruit characteristics don't align. I believe it is likely to be the Brazilian version of G.macrophylla in the pix I posted and the cracks are typical.

It's garcinia macrophylla. Leaves match too.

It's called 'Kilo' guava. Excellent white guava that has done well, producing large sweet fleshy fruits. I've only had one in ground for 3-4 years so jury still out on long term health in our soils. But so far so good. No fruit fly infestation yet on these. I was under the impression nematodes in our soil eventually do them in.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to tell when Canistel are ripen
« on: December 31, 2020, 06:12:40 PM »
It should be soft enough to where its practically mush and the skin is breaking with any pressure. If not properly ripe they are pretty mealy and dry. Canistel or Ross make an excellent eggnog. Just blend with vanilla ice cream and add some cinnamon and/or nutmeg.

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