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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Free Greenhouse Heat
« on: July 30, 2014, 03:25:48 PM »
Chester copperpot, welcome to this forum.  Your post was really quite interesting. As shown with a little effort, one can build a solar collector and save money at the same time. The guy who wrote the article had a good sense of humor. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Don't do what i did.!!!!
« on: July 29, 2014, 10:35:40 PM »
Luak, papayas are easy to grow, and can produce fruit in the first season, surely in the second season  Never ever water a papaya with cold water, as they get root rot very easy.  Grown from seed there is a chance that your papaya can turn out to be a male tree, a female tree or a hermaphrodite tree.  Both the female or the hermaphrodite tree will give you fruit.  A male tree just produces pollen but does not fruit.  Keep your fingers crossed.  The T.R. Hovey Papaya is a dwarf papaya that produces regular fruit, and can be easily grown in a 5 gallon container.  T.R. Hovey Papayas can be purchased from Logees Greenhouse on line if your interested.. - Millet

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From reading the above post by Phil, I see there still are some restrictions on retail citrus sales in Harris county, and that is citrus tree  sales can only be for trees that must remain in Harris county. No out of county retail sales. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Not everything Is Bigger In Texas
« on: July 29, 2014, 06:07:36 PM »
The U.S. Department of Agriculture has adopted a rule that will reduce the size and grade requirements for grapefruit and oranges that are grown in the lower Rio Grande Valley of Texas. These rules are in response to market demand and maximize shipments of fresh fruit. The new rule changed the size requirement for grapefruit from 3-5/16 inches to 3 inches in diameter and oranges from 2-6/16 inches to 2-3/16 inches in diameter, lowering grade requirements for smaller fruit. Consumers are now showing a preference for smaller-sized fruit, and believe relaxing the requirements makes more fruit available to fill the market shortfall and provides smaller-sized fruit to meet consumer demand. Grapefruit that doesn't meet the size requirement goes to juice giving the grower less of a profit, returns are better for fresh fruit. In 2013 the Rio Grande Valley of Texas produced 5.3 million cartons of grapefruit and 1.7 million cartons of oranges. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Don't do what i did.!!!!
« on: July 28, 2014, 10:38:26 PM »
Luak, to answer your question, in my greenhouse I currently have growing in the ground a Genoa Lemon, Marisol Clementine, Cara Cara Orange, Bearss Lime, Brown Turkey Fig, Wonderful Pomegranate tree, Red Lady Papaya, pink fleshed Chandler Pummelo, and a Double Mahoi Banana, all of which are full grown mature trees.  Also planted in the ground, but not yet fully grown are a Sweetheart Litchi,  Ruby Supreme Guava, Saint Teresa Lemon and a Ponkan Satsuma.  Growing in Containers of various sizes are 2 - T.R. Hovey Papayas, 2 - Page mandarins,  2 - Valentine Pummelos, 1 - Nova Mandarin, 1 - Bittersweet Orange, 1-Bizarrea Citrus, 3 - Black Twig Limes,  2 - Dekopon oranges, 1- Fringe Tree, 2 - Gold Nugget mandarins,  2-New Zealand Lemonade trees, 1 - very rare Saint Dominic Sour Orange tree, 1- Saint Michael  Paper Rind orange, 1- Sanguinele Blood Orange,  1- Star Ruby Grapefruit, 1 - Tarocco blood orange, 1 - Turunji Citrus Medica, 1 - Valencia orange, 2- Star Fruit trees, 1- Day Avocado, 2- Xie Shan Satsumas, 1 - Yosemite Gold Mandarin, 50 or so Pineapples, a dozen or so large vines of various wine grape varieties,  15+- cactus varieties, a large Canary Island Palm tree planted in a 4" X 4' X 4' container, various greenhouse tomatoes,  20 or so orchids, plus perhaps 20 to 25 various miscellaneous other plants.  - Millet

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All Harris County Citrus Trees Under Quarantine

(HOUSTON) — All citrus trees in Harris County are now under quarantine for a tree disease that has already devastated the Florida citrus crop.
Monte Nesbitt, a horticulturist with Texas A&M’s Extension Service, says it’s not dangerous to eat fruit from a tree infected with citrus greening, but it might not taste good. The fruit never matures beyond the green stage.
It’s called “citrus greening” — a bacteria that can kill a lemon, orange or grapefruit tree within two years.
Although the disease hasn’t been widely detected in Harris County, there is also no known cure for citrus greening, which prompted the quarantine.
“Which means we don’t want plant material to move out of that area that’s already infected,” Nesbitt said.
Nesbitt said they are also fighting the spread of citrus greening by using insecticide on the bug that carries it from tree to tree.
“It’s about the size of the tip of a toothpick; white or tan in color,” he said.
If you have any questions, Nesbitt says call your extension agent.
A typical tree infected with citrus greening will have leaves that turn a mottled yellow. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Seedless Or Low-Seeded Mandarin Varieties
« on: July 26, 2014, 01:53:10 PM »
 Many mandarin varieties produce seedless or low-seeded fruit whether isolated or not from other pollen producing citrus fruits.  These include Gold Nugget, all Satsuma varieties, Pixie, Seedless Kishu, Yosemite Gold, Tahoe Gold, Shasta Gold, Tango, USDA 88-2, and the new UCR citrus breeding program releases - Daisy SL, Fairchild LS, and Kinnow LS.- Millet

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Cold hardiness of various citrus
« on: July 25, 2014, 03:22:53 PM »
Commercial citrus types differ in cold hardiness.  Mandarin trees are most hardy  followed by (in order from most hardy to least hardy) Sour Orange, Sweet Orange, Grapefruit, Pummelo (Shaddock), Lisbon lemon, Eureka lemon, Tahitian lime, Mexican lime, and citron.  Trees of citron, lime, and lemon are least hardy because they tend to grow continuously and flower and fruit in cool weather.  On the other hand, grapefruit, sweet orange, mandarin, and kumquats are more frost hardy because their growth stops in cold weather. Also, a tree's tolerance to frost is not the same as the fruit's tolerance to frost.  For example, although satsuma mandarin trees are very cold hardy, their fruit are small and thin skinned, which makes them more susceptible to frost damage than grapefruit, which are large and have a firm rind. Another factor responsible for differences in frost tolerance is the maturity of the fruit.  Fruit that is closer to maturity at the time of a freeze can withstand more cold than immature fruit.  For example, although Valencia and navel trees are equally cold hardy, navel orange fruit  are generally more cold tolerant than Valencia fruit because navel fruit mature earlier and have a higher sugar content during the coldest months.  - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Don't do what i did.!!!!
« on: July 24, 2014, 12:45:03 PM »
Send me your address and I will send you enough liquid GA3 for your tree.  I purchase my GA3 from American Clay Works  857 Bryant Street, Denver, CO. There telephone # is  303-534-4044 or 1-800-873-2297. - Millet

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Psylids,, the insect that spreads Greening Disease (HLB) has been found in mailed packages going through Fresno mail distribution centers, which further raised the risk of the insects ending up in California's South Valley and the many citrus growing areas around  the world the post office serves. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Don't do what i did.!!!!
« on: July 23, 2014, 03:46:03 PM »
Brian, it only takes a VERY VERY small Amount of GA3 per gallon of spray.  What strength is the GA3 powder that you  purchased ? - Millet

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The Texas Department of Agriculture temporarily has banned the sale of citrus plants in Harris County Texas after citrus greening disease was identified in stock at a local retail nursery near Webster. Hidalgo and Cameron counties also are under the quarantine designed to slow the spread of the plant disease. Once a tree is infected with citrus greening, there is no cure. Over a million acres of citrus crops have been wiped out across the U.S.  Citrus plant sales are on temporary hold while the department works with retail and wholesale nurseries to determine the best way to control the spread of the disease. The disease was discovered in the United states in 2005 in Florida and first discovered in Texas in January 2012.  - Millet

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Fruit left hanging on a citrus tree inhibit the budbreak of both vegetative and floral buds at two key stages.  First, young developing fruit inhibit budbreak in the summer and early fall, reducing the number of new summer and fall shoots (branches) that develop, and thus reducing the number of nodes on which would have produce floral branches the following spring.  Second, mature fruit inhibit the spring's budbreak, and the  subsequent development of the predominantly floral shoots (branches),  as well as the relatively small number of vegetative branches that characterize the spring bloom,  thereby further reducing the floral  intensity of the bloom the following year. Winter fruit removal results in a shift toward more floral and fewer vegetative branches. Your trees not blooming had nothing to do with the Fling Dragon rootstock, but rather with fruit left hanging on the tree for an extended time.. BTW I've been to Fredericksburg Texas, a town of many stone buildings.  I liked Fredericksburg, its anice city with friendly people. I visited the Admiral Chester Nimitz museum  while I was there.  - Millet

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Mark In Texas, I forgot to ask, did you have some carry over fruit remaining on the trees that have not yet flushed new growth? - Millet

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U.S. consumers bought 36.11 million gallons of orange juice in the four weeks ended July 5, down 8.3% from a similar period a year ago, according to Nielsen data. A greater variety of beverages, including more exotic fruit juices such as açai, energy drinks and flavored waters, have taken market share away from orange juice, analysts and traders say
. - Millet

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A good "insecticide" for a grower is Horticultural Oil.  Horticulture Oil is a paraffin based liquid that kills mites, aphids, white fly,  and mealy bug, the big 4 that attack citrus.  Horticultural Oils are 100 percent safe for people, and  is even also OK for organic culture.  Works very well. - Millet

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Anyone who delights in freshly squeezed orange juice or eats grapefruit for breakfast should take a moment to stop and savor the taste of those citrus fruits. Many of them are at risk of being destroyed by a disease spread by an invasive pest that's been sweeping across the citrus-producing regions of the world.
"It's horrible — it's a disaster," says Fred Gmitter, a professor of horticulture science at the University of Florida Citrus Research and Education Center.

It might be time to kiss your OJ goodbye, unless science steps in to save the day.

At least 70% of Florida's citrus trees are already infected by the disease, known as citrus greening, huanglongbing, or occasionally just with an ominous "it," as in "It's here."

Florida's citrus crop this year is the lowest it's been in 30 years, and agricultural authorities have continued to lower their production estimates. Orange-juice prices are up nearly 20% this year alone and will continue to rise. The disease was a major factor in the lime shortage that made the price of a box of Persian limes jump from $18 to $85 last December. Prices could jump higher for oranges. Researchers and growers say that if a cure isn't found, the entire $9 billion Florida citrus industry could be destroyed.
Millet




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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Free Greenhouse Heat
« on: July 21, 2014, 10:36:45 AM »
jmc, your plan sounds interesting, it would be nice if you would keep us up to date as you proceed with your solar system.  My passive solar drums does help allot in lowering my greenhouse heating cost, but as my greenhouse is in zone 5 and additionally at an elevation of 5440 feet above sea level (1,800 M) still requires additional heating during our cold winter months. The 100 drums actually have not cost me the loss of usable greenhouse space, because I use them as a bench with containerized plants on top of them.   The best to your plans. - Millet

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Not sure why your trees have not put out a flush so far.  However one thing is for certain, and that is they can't begin a new flush until the tree's root system has finished it growth period.    Good things happen to those who wait.  The late summer flush normally is around August.  - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Free Greenhouse Heat
« on: July 20, 2014, 03:48:37 PM »
Jeff all drums are black plastic 55-gallon drums tightly sealed. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Free Greenhouse Heat
« on: July 20, 2014, 10:54:59 AM »
Forgot to add that container plants grow well setting on top of the warm sun heated barrels due to the bottom heat the root system gets. - Millet

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I have diabetes, so can't drink orange juice, but can eat oranges, which I really like. Page mandarin, Xie  Shan satsuma and Cara Cara are my favorites.  Ponkan is also great. - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Free Greenhouse Heat
« on: July 19, 2014, 01:40:38 PM »
In order to raise 1-lb. of water up one degree requires 1 BTU of heat.  Conversely, when 1-lb. of water loses 1 degree of heat it gives off 1-BTU of heat. If you put one 55-gallon barrel of water (456-lbs. of water) inside your greenhouse it will give off 456 BTU of heat for every degree  the water inside the barrel drops over night.  For instance lets suppose after a day in the sun by evening the water inside the barrel has a temperature of 79 degrees F.  By the next morning the water has cooled down to 64 degrees.  That is a drop of 15 degrees. Therefore, the barrel has given off 15 X 456 = 6,840 free Btu's of heat into your greenhouse.  My greenhouse is 32-ft. wide and 72-ft. long. I have one hundred black plastic 55-gallon drums lining the side walls of the greenhouse. That is 45,600-lbs. of water in total.  Therefore, for every one degree that the water in the barrels cools down over night the greenhouse gets 45,600 free BTU's of heat .  So for even a 10-degree over night drop in water temperature 456,000  free BTU is given off into my greenhouse every night. Additionally, the water also helps to even out the greenhouse temperature during the heat of the day by absorbing much of the heat.  - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Did You Know #2
« on: July 17, 2014, 04:18:47 PM »
Leaves and roots of a citrus tree are able to rapidly detect changes in their surroundings .  Both the leaves and roots quickly know  when the temperature is high or its low,  they know when they are thirsty,  and even when there is a desiccating wind blowing against them,.  Most everyone knows when these things happen the tree closes the stomates in the leaves to reduce the amount of water lost by the tree through transpiration, thereby saving the tree from desiccation, loss of leaves and fruit, shoot or root die back, and possible death.  But do you know how the tree does this?  Leaves and roots can detect these dangers and quickly come to the rescue by synthesizing a chemical called abscisic acid (ABA) and then sends the acid up the transpiration stream via the xylem to the guard cells of the leaf which upon arrival  tells the stomates to close.  ABA also carries out other functions - it helps to regulate the tree's  dormancy in combination with cytokinins and gibberelins, and though not its major function, ABA also plays a role in leaf, flower, and fruit abscission (hence the name "abscisic acid". - Millet

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: yellowing leaves
« on: July 17, 2014, 10:22:29 AM »
If indeed it is a salt problem, and Chas is probably correct,  keeping the tree on the dry side makes the salt situation worse, because the soluble salts become more concentrated in the root zone when there is less water.   The tree is telling us that it needs more watering by the cupping of the leaves.  As far as nutrition, it is water that moves nutrients such as nitrogen potassium, iron and magnesium  throughout the tree.  High soluble salt levels at the root zone blocks the up take of nutrients, thus giving the tree the yellowish look.  As Chas wrote, there is some browning at the tips of the leaves, but it is not at the point of killing the leaf tips.  Give the tree a good flush with clean pure water in the amount of three of  four times the volume of the container.  Then fertilize the tree and you should see the tree starting to recover. If the irrigation water you use for your regular watering has a high soluble salt content, then flush the container at a regular interval, perhaps once every couple months with pure water having a very low salt content. .  -  Good luck and thanks for joining this forum - Millet

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