The Tropical Fruit Forum

You list Myrciaria aff. tenella seeds in both a black and orange form. Isn't that cambui (Myrciaria cuspidata)?

I really enjoy this resource.

http://www.worldfloraonline.org/taxon/wfo-0000278917#bibliography

https://www.nybg.org/science-project/world-flora-online/

It says that it is a Plinia.

Stirring the pot.

What are you stirring? You are just regurgitating the same mistake using the same outdated source but on a different database. The Bibliography you linked to even says Stadnik, A., Flora Do Brasil, which I already pointed out is outdated. Half the time FdB doesn't even work. Sorry but Brazil is almost a third world country.

I have been communicating with Aline Stadnik over the last few years and she confirmed to me in private communication just yesterday that it is a Eugenia. She is the leading scientist on Brazilian Plinias and Eugenias, not to mention the very paper used in the bibliography for P. martinellii. You don't have to believe me but time will tell.

Hicksbeachia pinnatifolia = Red Bopple Nut
Davidsonia johnsonii = Smooth Davidson Plum

Two species originally from Australia, possibly still confined to the continent.

Quote from: lebmung on May 28, 2021, 04:55:44 PM

The tree was undercover and heated probably with a heating cable that means it had a microclimate, then it should survive. To be truly cold hardy should be expose directly to that temperature.

Spent 45 minutes on the phone with the vendor that has been working with this 40 year old tree in S. Austin.  It took days of below 12F temps (11C) and below.  There was some die back.    Really an incredible story including his technique of getting 50% rooting takes  of cuttings.  Parent tree is 35' tall with a 4' girth trunk.  Says the fruit is very rich.   

Just for the record, 12 Fahrenheit is actually -11 Celsius

It is P. caerulea. Got it's name because flower has blue ring. Very common in Southern Europe. One of the most cold hardy Passifloras. Often used as a rootstock for P. edulis. Some don't taste that bad, having a bit of sweetness. Can easily be opened with fingers.

https://www.inrae.fr/actualites/diffusion-du-materiel-vegetal
Inventory/catalogue: https://www.inrae.fr/sites/default/files/dt-r-34-catalogue_public_des_varietes_1.pdf

Could be Myrciaria glomerata... common name Red Cabeludinha

Just to prevent people potentially wasting their time: I would have thought it relevant to point out that all of the videos are in the French language, with no English subtitles, so if you don't understand French you will be basically just watching people eat fruit. The only English content is that they craftily named their YouTube channel "Fruit Addict."

Another small anecdote: I was strenuously searching for a reliable source of Inga vulpina seeds for seven years. This clown responded that he had it, but not to share in any way or sell seeds. Just to gloat I guess. 

Please PM me what cultivars you have.

Sending people old and desiccated seeds with zero chance of germination is stealing in my book.

You're right Oscar, you don't need to steal, but you do it anyway, just the right amount that you can obviously get away with.

I contacted you about the rubbish Lacmellea seeds that you sent, you did not even bother coming up with a lie. Previously you had sent Eugenia pyriformis that were also dead, I foolishly put that down to bad luck and didn't make a fuss. I tend to just cut my losses since I am not a big time trader. And you blocked me on Facebook not even for a business complaint but because I pointed out in a thread that the nomenclature on your website is poor... so you are offended with mild corrections while being pedantic with amateurs about their occasional use of an incorrect binomial...

I think it is about time someone put a stop to this madness. I thought the situation would self-rectify, but instead it seems to be snowballing.

Caimito or "star apple" in buccaneer lingo is a fruit (Chrysophylum cainito) whose pericarp is purple, a dark purple, clearly not red. Maybe there is a variety out there that is red, but I have not seen it, in any that is definitely not in question for the subject of this thread.

The label of the plant is written in the Portuguese language and originates in Brazil, where indeed they often use the name "abiu roxo" for this species. But "roxo" in Portuguese translates to "purple" in English.

Where the confusion has been initiated is that OP huertasurbanas is a Spanish speaker, and in that language the similar word "rojo" means red. Felipe from Spain also seem to have fallen into the trap. This is all somewhat surprising, as I thought the Iberian languages had a fair amount of cross-cultural contact, at least for basic words like colors. I contacted huertasurbanas privately to correct the matter, but I have noticed over the years that a lot of people consider corrections some kind of personal assault on their fragile egoes. I love being corrected, for me it is about the improving accuracy, but for others they seem to become further stubborn in their ways, like it's some kind of personal vendetta. Que sera sera

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