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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Do most people eat Fuyu persimmons
« on: November 24, 2015, 11:17:21 AM »
Shriveled and soft with skin

Thanks for the idea, I will let one shrivel and turn soft to see how it tastes and feels then.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Do most people eat Fuyu persimmons
« on: November 24, 2015, 11:16:12 AM »
with the skin or without? Any adverse side effects from the skin?

I got some California grown Fuyu persimmons from Costco yesterday for the very first time. I ate it crunchy as per the instructions on the box. Tried the first one with skin and one after peeling the skin. Though the skin had no objectionable taste, due to the texture difference, I prefer it without skin. Though they were just plain sweet with no complex flavors, I liked them and will buy more as there isn't much else available at this time of the year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit and Spice park this time of year
« on: November 23, 2015, 06:36:48 PM »
I called them couple of weeks back and went there, got to try some wax jambus, bananas, jujubes and canistels. There was a rollinia turning yellow on the tree, didn't get to try. As there was an event (seafood festival) at that time, they didn't have a tasting table, so missed out on that.

If you are after trying various fruits, I would suggest to call them to learn the current availability of fruits and then visit. If you like to visit the place irrespective of fruit availability, I would say, go for it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit tree sale - Naples, FL, USA - Nov 21
« on: November 15, 2015, 08:38:28 AM »
Fall tree sale organized by "Collier Fruit Growers" is on next Saturday:

When: Saturday, November 21, 2015 - 9:00 am to 2:00 pm
Where: Freedom Park, 1515 Golden Gate Parkway, Naples, FL, USA
Who: Organized by Collier Fruit Growers
Vendor(s): I think it is the same vendor as last time - "Fruitscapes from Bokeelia"

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where is the Fruit Punch
« on: September 11, 2015, 09:29:06 PM »
its not worth driving over 300 miles for, every nursery within 100 miles doesnt have it and say that they cant get it. If not i give up.

If I remember correctly, Wayne Clifton might have it, he mentioned one supposedly new/rare Zill variety when I met him few weeks back, but I am not 100% sure which variety was it. As he is in Bradenton, based on your profile location, it looks like around 100 miles from you. Wayne's active email id is mentioned in this post -, he responds quickly to email questions.

I got one "dream" from Wayne few weeks back, though I didn't pay attention to the root stock when I picked it up, I noticed it is on pond apple too later when I read the tag in the pot. I planted it in ground few days back, looking good so far. I will post if it declines over time.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pictures of my tropical fruit plants
« on: September 06, 2015, 05:02:03 PM »
but how can you with Blueberries? They're not tropical and need 800-1000 hours of chill....

Those were added as per my daughter's request :). Also these are low chill ones (two are sunshine blue and the other one I believe is snowchaser), they did fruit a few this season.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pictures of my tropical fruit plants
« on: September 06, 2015, 04:52:37 PM »
Thank you all for the kind words. Also thanks to all the forum members as I learned a lot and got ideas for new plants and best sources for those plants from here.

Do you water your Jabo's daily ?
mine are in containers, but, if i miss 2 days watering them
they get leaf burn.

I haven't been very disciplined in watering my jabos and they do start getting burn if I don't water them for many days. I think I can leave them for three/four days safely without watering. Luckily we have been getting consistent rain for last few weeks and that helped all the plants look their best. I had put some drip irrigation last year, but took it out once the rain started for quicker mowing (as the lines were not buried). I suppose I will have to put those back in service and extend for the new trees once the dry season is here.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pictures of my tropical fruit plants
« on: September 06, 2015, 02:07:21 PM »

ice cream 1ice cream 2ice cream 3dwarf plantain
gold fingermanzanomysoredwarf red


canistel - trompo

carambola - kari


citrus - kishu, ponkan, murcott, satsuma



mexican cream



honey goldmai1ns1seedling


longan - biew kiew

hak ipsweetheart



lemon zest
maha chanuk
nam doc mai

peach cobbler
sweet tart
valencia pride




sapodilla - alano

sugar apple

white sapote - redland

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I Nominate Neelam (for Worst)
« on: September 04, 2015, 06:52:35 PM »
I picked first ever (and only) fruit of my Neelam tree three days back, it had turned yellow at the bottom on the tree. I just ate it, even though it was ripened unevenly - bottom portion was overripe and top part was under ripe, it was quite good and we all liked it. It wasn't affected by Anthracnose either, even though my Kents gets decimated with Anthracnose.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: muntingia calabura variants?
« on: August 19, 2015, 07:47:22 PM »
Not sure if this is same/similar to what you are looking for, but both "fruitscapes" ( and "PIN" ( have info on this listed on their sites.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Mango Varieties In Florida
« on: August 11, 2015, 08:17:18 PM »
My experience on the Indian mangoes I have:

Kesar: Got a 15G from "Cookie Monster" last year and planted it in ground, got five fruits this year. All were consistently great, me and family loved those. So far it ranks at the top of my list. My Kents get hit so bad with Anthracnose, but the Kesars weren't affected at all. I picked them only after turning yellow on the tree, which is great, as there is no need of guesswork.
Neelam: Got a 3G couple of years back from "Bender" and planted in ground, has one fruit on it now, I will let you know how it tastes. I am not sure when to pick it though - whether to leave it on the tree to change color or to pick as green, if anybody could guide me, that would be great.
Alphonso: Most vigorous of all mango trees I have, got as 3G from HD (with PIN tag) couple of years back, planted just before Neelam and the Alphonso is 3 times larger than Neelam now. It hasn't flowered yet though.
Mallika: Bought 3G from HD (with PIN tag) along with Alphonso and planted at same time, stayed almost dormant for a year and this year started flushing well, around half the size of Alphonso, bit bigger than Neelam. Hasn't flowered yet.
Himsagar: Has no experience with it, got 7G from Fruistscapes on my recent visit - a month or so back - and planted it in ground.

I visited "Wayne Clifton" last weekend (to buy a "Dream") and he stated"Amrapali" is great and he has it available it for sale, I didn't buy it as I am running low on planting space.

Good luck! I really cannot say yet if I just got really lucky or if a good percentage of seedlings will produce good fruit. The fruit is drastically different from the parent, yellow fleshed with a different flavor profile.
Wow, that is fantastic.

I have planted three jakfruit varieties bought from nurseries in last two years and they haven't been very enthusiastic about growing, to say the least. So few weeks back, I planted seeds from one fruit I got, along the fence line as you did. Most of them have sprouted and have two leaves now. Now based on your report, I am more excited about the prospects of those.

Yes, I realize that. My original intention was to graft onto the seedlings from the seeds planted directly in ground suspecting tap root/root bound issues with the slow/no growth of my previous grafted ones. Now I may leave some of those alone to grow on their own to see how they turn up.

Wow, that is fantastic.

I have planted three jakfruit varieties bought from nurseries in last two years and they haven't been very enthusiastic about growing, to say the least. So few weeks back, I planted seeds from one fruit I got, along the fence line as you did. Most of them have sprouted and have two leaves now. Now based on your report, I am more excited about the prospects of those.

No. Kent should be allowed to ripen off the tree.

Allowing Kent to ripen on the tree increases the likelihood of internal breakdown, and the seed will often germinate inside the fruit as well.

You are right on, today I sliced into one of the ripe mangoes I picked yesterday and it had internal breakdown, I will try to pick the remaining sooner. Is there any good way of telling when to pick these? Also, I guess I will have to figure out the spraying regimen from next season onward as these were severely affected by Anthracnose.

Should the Kent mangoes be left on the tree to ripen for best taste?

Assuming that is the case, I have been leaving mine alone. I looked around the tree today and found few prospects. I thought I will share some pictures.

Ripe one is on the left, you can see the color difference with the rest
This is another one, appears to be a bit more ripe than the first one

Thanks Fort Myers fruit. I want to try all of them!! That's good to know about Pine Island next time I'm in North Fort Myers or Cape Coral. I will definitely cruise up there. Do you find them in the shops or are there farms that you can go to?

Fruit Scapes in Pine Island ( is a good nursery and has a good fruit stand, nice people too. I visited them couple of weeks back, they have mangoes in labelled bins and you could sample those before buying. I bought one or two each from all varieties (may be eight) they had at that time - I felt some of those were not picked at right time when I started to eat those, though - so pay attention while selecting. They have beautiful fruit trees in all sizes (may not have as many varieties as Excalibur/PIN does), I picked some 7G and 3G trees and planted most of them in ground, one more to plant.

I am also in Collier county, I have a Kent tree (identified by forum help, as it came with the property), I like them, but not overly excited about them and I will be glad to share some with you (for free) to taste. Both Naples and Bonita Springs have fruit growers club and you might find them interesting too. I am a member of Naples club ( PM me if you have any questions or need any help, I will help out as much as I can.

PS: I am not affiliated with Fruit Scapes nursery in any way.

I have been reading various posts on a late season mango and here is the list I have gathered so far.

Keitt - I tasted this recently and liked it, general consensus is that Keitt is the latest in the season.
Beverly - I tasted this recently and liked it, not sure if this is as late as Keitt/Neelam.
Neelam - I haven't tasted this yet, but my young tree has one mango and I am waiting for it to ripen, there are mixed reviews about it, Neelam could be as late as Keitt.
Kent - I have one older tree with decent amount of fruits, but I liked Keitt and Beverly better, not as late as Keitt/Neelam.
Honey kiss - I haven't tasted this, but seeing good reviews about it, not sure if this is as late as Keitt/Neelam

I am tempted to look for a Keitt, but I read that it may be difficult to grow at PIN site ( and also in some posts. Though lot of fruits on my Kent gets hit by Anthracnose pretty badly, based on PIN explanation, fruits are disease resistant, so I guess not to worry much on that part. Should I stay away from it as PIN states that juvenile trees are disease prone and hard to grow?

What are your favorite late ones, how late are they in season?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kesar Mango
« on: July 20, 2015, 10:10:57 PM »
Just picked first kesar of my tree:

I just ate this and loved it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kesar Mango
« on: July 16, 2015, 08:12:12 PM »
Just picked first kesar of my tree:

Were these just picked and cur?  I wonder if the fruit you sampled was truly ripe/ready to eat.

Not sure when they were picked, as this was a scheduled trip, mangoes were already cut and presented as in the picture when we arrived there, we were 13 people in the group and each got few pieces to taste, I felt different levels of ripeness in "Phimsen Man" with some not ripe enough, but others seemed at the right level of ripeness.

Just curiou, where is the graft on that tree?  Maybe its due to the dam a ge but its hard to see.  Also, why do you gave tgst protector around it?

Graft was not visible in that picture, below picture has it. I just kept a yogurt container around the trunk to prevent the mulch from getting too close to the trunk, if that is what you are wondering about.

so.... what was your take on the mangos tried? reviews please.

I am not good at describing taste profiles or giving reviews. Anyway, I will just describe how I felt. I have eaten Carries before, but not the others.

Coconut Cream: Though it was very good, didn't have that WOW moment, which I was hoping for. I felt a hint of pineapple taste.
Carrie: I have always liked it and it didn't disappoint. I got a Carrie to take home and ate it yesterday, it was great too.
Phimsen Man: It reminded me of some NDMs I recently had, simple and sweet, liked it very much. I got one of that too to take home, had it today, and I liked that too.
Angie was good, but not over the top, same with Cogshall too.

I liked Carrie the most among this group. I wonder if I my ranking would have been different, had it been a blind taste test.

My husband does in arch grafting on our mango trees that have trunk damage and any that have stunted growth. This yields surprisingly good results. They have done best when he pots the seeds up and the. Ants them next to the grafted trees once they are tall enough to graft above any damaged trunk area.

Thank you for the information, I am starting preparations for approach grafting, if the tree recovers by itself meanwhile, great.

My Carrie did the same thing a few years ago. The bark eventually grew back and the tree is very healthy.
Thank you for sharing, that makes me feel better and I hope mine recovers too. I am preparing for approach grafting too, in case it does not recover.

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