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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: July 29, 2022, 02:15:53 PM »
Coco coir is not soil, it's a medium. It is problematic especially for calcium and magnesium as it doesn't hold these very well.
I wasn't aware it can't hold certain nutrients well, that could be an explanation for some issues I had a couple years ago!  Thanks for that :)
Spaugh and other state pineapples will grow in just about anything.. and I do believe them.  For the record, I'm not trying to find the best possible mix, medium, soil, whatever, just figuring stuff out and learning along the way.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: July 29, 2022, 11:13:16 AM »
Okay, thanks.  It wouldn't be straight coco coir, mixed with perlite and bark, which I think helps drain better (something like gardener's ground cover bark, or orchid fine bark, or kellogg garden soil / recycled forest products, whichever is on sale).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: July 29, 2022, 10:33:08 AM »
Thank you all three.  I will first try re-wetting the medium, it'll take a while since I have a dozen plants.  I did it all this way because it's what I had on hand at the time and this brand bag look nice on my patio, and the peat mix was all left over from my tomatoes.

These bags are super high quality, which makes the error a bummer, doesn't work in my situation.  I wonder if using coconut coir would've been better than peat moss base.. other than the hassle of checking salt content and then determining whether to rinse, from what I've read coconut coir absorbs water and is not hydrophobic like dry peat.

If re-wetting turns out to be problematic, I'll repot.. maybe wait for winter when they slow down,

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: July 28, 2022, 11:55:43 AM »
My part of so cal had an unusually sunny June, but the gloom caught up and last three weeks have been overcast just about daily.  I think the pineapple plants are responding well cosmetically, they've greened up a bit and look overall healthier than they did last month.  That said, I went a bit too long in watering them this week and the mix I use (peat, bark, perlite) has dried out because I'm getting awful channeling now.  I don't think I'll do air-pruning pots without automated watering again.**

How do you all rehydrate peat-based mixes without taking the plants out of the pot?

**I bought a bunch of 5-10 gallon rainscience grow bags a couple years ago on a 4/20 deal for my peppers and tomatoes, then when I was upotting my pineapples last year, I had the grow bags handy and decided to try them; biggest drawback is that they dry out super quick, I've seen no evidence that they are better than regular pots for everything else.  Despite this, they are super high quality, will last a long time, and clean up nicely in the washing machine.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passion Fruit problems in San Diego
« on: June 29, 2022, 06:09:04 PM »
Random question on topic of passion fruit: does the plant drop foliage wintertime in southern california, or remain green year round?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: toxicity cherimoya seeds?
« on: May 15, 2022, 02:25:47 PM »
Oh, that's a relief, thank you all :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / toxicity cherimoya seeds?
« on: May 15, 2022, 01:00:48 PM »
I know cherimoya seeds aren't supposed to be consumed. I accidentally just swallowed a small one (this particular fruit had so many seeds in it).  Should I call poison control, induce vomiting, or think one is okay?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: May 12, 2022, 11:23:59 AM »
Oh.. I went back to watch a video of the KSL farm and see the red leaves now.  I guess I remembered them wrong.  Holy cow those plants got huge out there!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: May 11, 2022, 10:31:32 PM »
Im ditching the cheese pines and only growing the puan and white sugarloafs now.  The cheese has issues in our weather and the fruits tend to snap off when ripe so be sure to stake it.  The sugarloaf and pauns are winners though.
Okay, good to know.  I'm curious why the KSL remain green in hawaii and not here?  Wouldn't the tropical sun there be more intense?

Hopefully at least one will fruit next year :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: May 10, 2022, 01:18:08 PM »
Ah okay, I'll leave them alone then, my shady places are pretty much just shade.  :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: May 10, 2022, 11:20:09 AM »
Are mine looking all right?  All six kauai sugarloaf plants are very red - I read this is either a nutrient deficiency, or intense sun.  I think it's the latter, as they are on my balcony patio right next to window "railing", south-east facing.  Cheese pine also looks odd.. leaves are yellow-brown, not green, and the puan is a mix of the two?  Nights have been cold here in south orange county, 1 mile from ocean.

I try to give 1/2tsp per gallon water dynagro foliage pro once a month, and sometimes if I remember, fish emulsion with a tiny amount of iron between the dynagro.  Too much?  Too little?  All are about a year old.  My grocery store ones are green, look similar size.

Oh no what have I done.  ;D

Best compromise would be mango and pepperoni pizza.




PM sent just fyi.

This is an unknown variety growing at parental units' yard.  Likely bird-dropped seed 7-10 years ago, unknown variety.  Gardener chopped all lower branches off to shape it into a "tree" a few years ago before it began setting fruit, requires ladder to access :(  Branches are pulled down for easier pictures.  Fruit is sweet, tart, quite tasty.  It might be fun to graft known varieties to this, but my only experience is so far is with two apple trees.  Maybe someday I'll try to graft something to the lower trunk, although I noticed a sucker growing, it is now 2ft tall, maybe I can graft to that?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: brown spots on blackberry jam fruit cutting
« on: November 24, 2021, 11:33:11 AM »
Thanks, I'll give it a go :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: brown spots on blackberry jam fruit cutting
« on: November 22, 2021, 11:25:33 AM »
Shilohtech, when that area had sun, water was every 2-3 days, now that it's shady maybe 7-10 days.  I check the soil, keeping moist and not drying out.  Soil mixture is 3-1-1 (bark, peat, perlite) with about a tablespoon of a mild organic fertilizer (down to earth 4-4-4) since it's in approx 1 gallon grow bag.

I think for a period it may be been too wet, maybe that caused this.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: brown spots on blackberry jam fruit cutting
« on: November 21, 2021, 05:01:32 PM »
This plant appears to be a relative of gardenias, and looking up gardenia issues, it could be.. well.. a lot of thing *facepalm*  Any ideas, or nothing to worry about?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / brown spots on blackberry jam fruit cutting
« on: November 19, 2021, 04:32:48 PM »

I received a blackberry jam fruit rooted cutting earlier this year.  Took a while, but it finally had some new growth sept-oct, and today I noticed brown/orange spots on the leaves.  Is this something to be concerned about or is it fine?

At the moment, it's in an area which gets only morning sun (overcast or fogged) for 3-4 hours, then rest of the day bright shade.

Thank you!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pinkglow pinapple
« on: November 15, 2021, 11:00:09 AM »
Wow.. 2 for $4?!
I thought I was lucky paying "only" $26 from the grocery store, instead of $50 shipped  :o

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: which buds on apple graft to remove?
« on: November 14, 2021, 06:18:26 PM »
That makes sense, thank you.  I wouldn't add a graft to the rootstock then, just below the existing graft?

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: which buds on apple graft to remove?
« on: November 12, 2021, 05:50:26 PM »
Here's what the two apple treelings look like after summer of a little growth - they grew a little crooked haha.  If I wanted to make these multi-grafted, where would you all recommend I do so?  Original grafts are basic cleft, hopefully easy to see in the pictures, if not, I can add marks where they occred.  I don't know if I have skills to do anything else.

These are m27 dwarf rootstock.  I know it's not the most ideal rootstock, but, I wanted to try something small for containers :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 100 gallon pot options?
« on: November 11, 2021, 05:56:58 PM »
You could potentially grow some sort of vine onto the tote, or put some shade-loving plants around it, beneath the canopy of the tree.  Just means more plants, but hey, why not  :o

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pinkglow pinapple
« on: November 08, 2021, 07:37:44 PM »
If you are in southern california, sometimes the fancy Gelson's grocery store has them (or, they can order the pineapples for you), and you don't have to pay the shipping.  Unfortunately, they do refrigerate these, at least at Gelson's.
I did purchase one to taste, and it wasn't anything special.  Just a grocery store pineapple, but with pink flesh (looked a lot like ham though).

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