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From now until June probably won't be much rain in Florida. Seems as though everyone has had good fruit set. Any one have a rule of thumb on this. I've heard of one gallon per foot of tree height once to twice a week. Seems like a good idea at least untiI they get some size to them.🙂

Adding irrigation to Pina Colada. Which has very good fruitset

Overhead frost irrigation taken down going to storage. I'm close enough to the end of the last frost date.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / 2025 grafting list
« on: March 07, 2025, 05:39:32 AM »
Spring is almost here and in late April budwood should be available. Everything it's going well in the garden So my mind is shifting to grafting. As i Drink my morning coffee getting ready for rock and roll at work. I am thinking about what I want to graft on to what tree.

I had 2 takes off honey kiss.
Last season on little Gem. I would like to get a third take. On the super julie sweet tart project from two seasons ago, which has been highly successful. I think after reviewing A recent thread I will graft p-22 On to it also. Hopefully it's vigor is not a mismatch. Since ceci love get so much love. I will graft it on two what i'm not sure yet because of it's vigor. I had 2 successful takes of sunrise last season will go for a Third on p p k.

This list is Just as much for me As it is to share with you.

Honeykiss
P-22
Cecilove
Sunrise
Son pari
Venus.

The recent Collins Paw Paw i got from Just fruits and exotics is flowering. It must of got plenty of chill hours up North.🙂

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Zinc, Venus, Ceci Love, Fruit only
« on: February 23, 2025, 01:54:37 PM »
 If these varieties were offered to you as your first mango of the new season and they were all at peak flavor. Which one would grab ?

This is a hypothetical situation but I'm trying determine what I want to graft onto my non flowering, sweet tart
Only consideration is the fruit, not the growth habit or disease resistance

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I've heard this many times of when temperatures are below a certain level for a certain duration of time. A mango tree will produce a high ratio of male flowers. Being in Central Florida I'm starting to believe it's more variety specific.
Yes the last few years have been mild But in the past I've had trees that produced well even with a couple of weeks of the high thirties. What say you! What's been your experience?

My Wife would say that i'm completely crackers 🙂

Coconut cream

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Under ideal circumstances, what should the ratio of male to  hermaphrodite 
 be on a perfect Bloom.
I found this you may find this interesting. This forum is educational and social. HAR once said this is not a payed academic forum So Feel free to participate even if you don't speak latin🙂

Because of the prolonged dormancy of the Bloom. I'm seeing a higher percentage of male flowers on some varieties.. This weekend I'm gonna take a close look at the Bloom and the fruit set.

International Journal of Horticulture, 2024,








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Have Pawpaw on my Reddit and my meta AI advertising from that. The University of Kentucky recommends Collins variety for Florida Growers. With the hardiness Zone Changing biannually I think I'm back in Zone 9b. It's a long shot but one thing I have is plenty of shade from all these mango trees. I ordered from two different nurseries one a Seedling ofCollins and the other a grafted tree of Collins. Hopefully seedling will be a pollinator but since I'm in a gardening frame of mind will probably go to Stark Brothers and Order different varieties. Maybe even ask for their recommendation.

Update problem solved just noticed that they have Gainesville #1 at Just fruit and Exotics up by Perry Florida

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Last week I moved my gravity flow drip irrigation system to a new location. Yesterday went to ever sawmill and bought nine bags of potting gardening soil. Last night cleaned under my workbench to put my grow light. I had the timer from last season plugged in at my workbench so the grow light came on according to schedule. Also went through my seeds to see what I will use and what I need to order. Last season I went with the personalized cantaloupes and some exotic ones. Sugar cube did the best the rest not so much. Decided to grow the full size four to five pounders season. Went back and looked at the recommendations I got last season from this forum and ordered Athens cantaloupe. Late last season I did order one that was recommended here and also another that is sweet and tart. Out of these three I will see which ones Thrive the best and build on that for next season. If successful will expand with another drip irrigation system. Will also grow some pole beans. The sun is about to rise so I'm going to go out and spray potassium bicarbonate on my mango bloom










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Most of our mangoes bloomed several weeks ago that have been in kind of a dormant State and haven't opened yet. We've had several weeks with the night time temperatures getting down in the 40s with a couple of nights the high mid 30s. I've always heard that common answer that it effects the male female ratio. What is the basis for this thinking. Is it hormonal? Has anyone really immersed in the subject. Are some varieties more affected by this. VP antidotically produces like a Rockstar consistently season to season in Central Florida





Jonah preparing to do battle with the pickle worm this season. Going to grow the full size cantaloupes this season.🙂

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Just curious what other folks are using other than sulfur. I've had pretty good luck with Dr Earths final stop. Today was Bloom spray day scheduled for once a week until fruit set. Anthracnose regiment spraying schedule for first week of February






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Since there is a major Arctic blast up north and even though I shall be spared. I'm still taking inventory of what I have so I can build on it. So for freezes with significant wind my Arsenal is lagging. I have two on the tank propane heaters and zero trunk wrap. So I just ordered a outdoor electric forced air heater 15 amps and some trunk wrap. So worst case scenario I would want to put four heaters under my most valued trees and trunk wrap all the rest. I don't want to get into stockpiling Mulch and sand so I was thinking how I could enhance my trunk wrap. I was thinking of adding heat tape on top of the trunk wrap to at least save a couple of feet above the graft Union. So my question is would it just cook the trunk of the tree.









Exhibit A

Wonder how many of these I can run on 20 amp breaker


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Couple of seasons ago had a conversation with Squam about a fungicide that I could get a small quantity from my nephew in the Midwest. I believe it was called  Miravis a fungicide that is used on row crops because of strobilurin fungal resistance. Well I was bored recently so I was reading about triazole. I came across this article and made me think this may have been his issue with that particular class of fungicides. At the time it wasn't something I was seriously going to pursue so I didn't inquire what was his particular issue with this fungicide. Any who it is interesting read for anyone somewhat interested in fungicides.
For some reason when you open the link it takes you to the bottom of the page so you'll have to scroll to the top🙂

https://www.farmprogress.com/farm-operations/1223f1-1639-slideshow






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado cocktail tree
« on: November 08, 2024, 05:06:10 AM »
I have three avocados trees. Two my mother-in-law planted 10 years ago from a seed. One of them has fruit in September October I think it's a seedling of Catalina. Excellent tree everyone loves it. The second seedlings as fruit in January seems to be a Seedling of one of the Hasses. Fruit or large softball size are bigger perfectly round. I would rate it as good not excellent. I have a Monroe in front by my driveway but unless I put mesh bags on it the squirrels decimate the fruit. Well the January alligator pair grew very tall and was excellent for shade but was cheating some of the other trees. When the report came that potentially the hurricane was going to be bad in our area I convinced my wife I had to hard prune skeletonize it to save it. She reports that I had a smirk on my face as I pruned it. Anyhow in the spring on the new growth going to graft to Monroe Wurtz Oro Negro and Thomas red Jamaican. Anything else I should consider






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Reflecting on last season the mango tree that is etched in my memory is PPK. I appreciate it's low maintenance no spraying early season which it gets better later in the season. When it's at Peak flavor it's awesomeanous is off the chart. So if I had to start over PPK would be the first tree I would plant followed by Buxton spice and Carrie.

As left the house to go to work. for i heard aHoot Owl. I wish him happy Hunting no limit on squirrels.


Part of my retirement plan to get reprieve from this hot humid Florida Summers I've got 40 of them under my belt


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado pruning for wind
« on: October 06, 2024, 08:58:41 AM »
Taking a page from Pine Islander

Future cocktail tree



And I thought black walnuts in the Midwest were treacherous to walk on

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Paw paw cocktail tree
« on: September 22, 2024, 12:01:12 AM »
Since you fellas made me aware that there are many varieties of Paw paw. And I have access to these wild paw paws. Which some are tall and lanky. If I topped or pruned one of them about 5 ft. Could I graft onto new growth multiple varieties like you would a mango tree. I could potentially Buy multiple varieties and plant them then harvest the bud wood to make a cocktail tree. Has anyone done this what are your thoughts.

Potential cocktail trees

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There's a good mess of these paw paw leaving this weekend to come back to the heat and humidity so I was wondering if I could pick some maybe Friday and take him to some local folks who've never tasted them before and would they ripen on the counter. Also there's dozens of saplings approximately 3 ft tall I was wondering do they have a Tap Root. May not be easy digging it's most likely in clay and it hasn't rained in a spell.
Like them so much would like to try to grow them in Central Florida I haven't had much luck with my persimmon tree but as good as these things are it's worth a shot maybe plant it next to the guava Bush for shade. Is there a slim to none chance or should I give it a whirl🤔



Anywho would like to transplant a few seedlings to hear on the farm and some old fishing buddies Ranch. If I did cut the Tap Root and instructed them to water it daily I wonder what the odds of it surviving would be. Fall and winter are coming probably be best to wait till spring. Most folks don't know what they are there is not a whole lot of folks around here and it is in an area where it's not feasible to till. So maybe I should come back in the spring that would give me an excuse to come back and visit and work

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit ID
« on: September 16, 2024, 05:30:31 PM »







Up here in Central Illinois taking a hiatus from Central Florida's blazing heat and humidity walking a fence line cutting trees when I was about to cut a branch and thought I saw a mango. Been working from sunrise till way after Dark baling hay so I may be delusional







Found one that had a soft side to it had a hole in it but these things are really good even if I have to share it with the bugs I guess that puts a little more protein in it

I declare whatever this is is better than the bolt mango LOL not as good as the Dirty Sanchez LOL

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Sangamon River Valley













This Farm has been in our family for over 150 years. My father and my cousin who both passed away and crossed the river came to Florida and started a sod business that's how I ended up in Florida.







What's on the agenda today Hay
Manpower shortage Boomers to the rescue🙂






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I think overall i fared very well. Cuz of the ideas Learned from this forum props out to the Cali crew🙂 Also a lot of thought on my part. As someone pointed out on this forum that squirrels are territorial and when one population is eliminated another group of Bad actors show up on the scene. Each groups preferences also change. Each spring Great Northern owls hunt in my neighborhood. The first they go after are the Mockingbirds I know this feathers on the roof and on the ground then the squirrels are next .Owls are very efficient. So when I say preferences change. Three seasons ago the group preference was ripe guava very little interest in mangoes. Two seasons ago the group preference was green guavas wiped out my entire crop in 2 days. As I observe their behavior of the different members  in the clan. I assign names to them along with a description of their physical characteristics So that my family can give me reports on who was spotted doing what. So this year's cast of actors was Wiley who had a mangy tail Riley and Willie. These three bad Johns were connoisseurs of mango had no interest in guava. I was able to distract them for a period of time with three 5 gallon buckets of acorns that I collected in the spring and poured around the bottom of the oak trees across the street at Peak Harvest.
Crop loss report on protected trees. I lost only one orange sherbet drop to a rabbit.
To Malika's cuz I had a nursery pot too close to the tree which gave them a elevated launch pad to grab a low hanger. The last zero Buxton spice  and Dot.On unprotected tree I lost about a dozen apks and equal number of ice cream. So next season will give them a little more protection. I have this large Valencia Pride that produces so many mangoes that is the sacrificial tree. I don't really eat many of those I do ship some. So my analysis thought process is if you can make things a little difficult for them and provide alternative food sources they usually tend to go for the easy meal. I'm hiding from the Sun the reason I'm writing such a long thread. Sun extracted a lot out of me yesterday the thing that keeps us alive it's also killing us LOL☀️



This is Wiley gorging on acorns :-[

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Studying The Burning Man generator group to learn all things solar battery and generators. Saw this camp photo didn't realize Cookie Monster was a playa. I got a kick out of it thought I would share



A "playa person" is someone who attends the Burning Man festival. The Black Rock Desert and Playa are made up of alkali dust, which can cause a chemical burn called "playa foot" if bare feet touch wet mud. Playa foot can cause redness, pain, and swelling.

So far ticket sales are down  for this year's event





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / RC drone to spray sulfur on bloom
« on: August 09, 2024, 10:34:22 AM »
I have been working with a crew lately that talk about RC cars boats and drones. So they got me thinking of spraying small quantities of sulfur at the top of the trees  on the bloom might be  realistic possibility anyone doing this? I'm trying to avoid ladders as much as possible




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For the trees that I have coconut cream Malika Little Gem have been subpar. My cream was not as intensely flavored as I expected. So far Little Gym has been watery and the sugar content seems low. The early mangoes possibly because of the drought were intensely flavored. Of the late season cotton candy has been spectacular. The latest test batch of orange sherbert which took 9 days ripen or finning was pleasantly good last night. Finally had a M4 drop so will pick a sample batch this weekend. What can I say about Valencia Pride other than it's a proven performer for that can practically feed a village. If it's blown gets toasted by Frost it just freaking lose it seems to shake most fungal issues off by just growing and growing. The General Public seems very satisfied with this mango so there's no need to give him anything more complexed. One benefit of the recent storms is growth of my juvenile trees. We are all very satisfied with this year is good bloom and fruit set🙂

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 Cotton candy Zinc Buxton Spice M4 Juliet  Orange sherbet also Malika and Valencia Pride Little Gem









Just pick my last coconut cream still have one Dwarf Hawaiian hanging



 And this White Pirie

Next season should be even more spectacular with Super Julie Carrie
And yes I'm already thinking about La Nina and a wobbly polar vortex




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The Wonderful lady of Seacrest Boulevard.Truly Tropical Chris has a tasting video with a new seedling variety of hers Lemon-esh. They are sampling and comparing to other varieties in the Citrus profile. I was hoping Carpe Diem was in the mix. When she offers this Variety in three gallons I will pay her a visit. Which is always very enjoyable conversation

https://youtu.be/Q3OAfoqn8Oc?si=Y3-jRybgQVWZW3ha



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