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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: September 28, 2023, 07:01:40 PM »
I'm assuming the baby cerrado is a yellow type? They are sooooo sweet 8)

Spiny dark red flesh outside, white inside. Not sure about flavor. We'll see. I don't expect fantastic, but it looks cool.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: September 28, 2023, 04:33:13 PM »

My season is here starting off with a good size Cosmic Charlie.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba - Zone 7 or Colder
« on: September 27, 2023, 08:48:37 PM »
I don't think I can subject my plants to that kind of punishment

Please don't, they suffer. I did have some seedlings that survived outside in the ground, but they are dying now. I think they were kind of zombies, barely living. We didn't get that cold really in 2022, just snow (30f), but for very long duration. I eventually did cover my big sabara and put a heater inside the enclosure, wish I'd done it ahead of the storm... Lessons learned.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba - Zone 7 or Colder
« on: September 27, 2023, 06:50:18 PM »

Sabara was bulletproof.

While I can somewhat attest to that, it has seen 25f a couple times, and two days of snow last year, it is not bulletproof. It fully defoliates and after the snow this year it has more or less taken a whole year off from fruiting and growing well.

I don't think you're helping these trees at all by leaving them below 40f. They're parked and not growing at all anything below that.

Red, white, scarlet, aureana etc are not as cold tolerant as sabara which, other than Campo Ramon and Grimal, is the only "cold hardy" jabo.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba - Zone 7 or Colder
« on: September 26, 2023, 11:17:17 PM »
They suffer in 9b at times. I wouldnít leave them out much below 40f.

I tried putting "skittles" psidium sp (it has same leaves as guineense) onto Guajava and it grafted up fine and is growing robustly on my guajava tree. I have a feeling that *most* psidium should be compatible with each other.

I have cattleianum yellow and red, they both grow nicely, and with far more frost resistance than guajava. Guineense appears to be closer to guajava in its cold hardiness, or lack thereof. What I do note is that cattleianum will take lots of water and grow / fruit best with more than less. I don't know if you'll really make big headway using cattleianum as rootstock, honestly. A big plant with lots of fruit desires lots of water.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: September 24, 2023, 07:26:49 PM »
Kevin, in the previous post of pictures the purple flower var. was that Asunta? All your D.F. varieties have turned into a nice hedge 8)

I have both Asunta and AX but Asunta is the one in the photos. I can't recall which Asunta I have, I *think* it's Asunta 3. My DF sure have put on a lot of weight this year. I'll probably have to reinforce most of my stands next year.

In other news, I have a baby cerrado set for the first time! Looking forward to trying this spiny one.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Backyard Fruit Trees
« on: September 23, 2023, 11:01:26 PM »
Awesome! Welcome to the forum, nice to see another 805'r

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kei apple cold tolerance
« on: September 19, 2023, 12:47:19 PM »
Those are pretty small to be fruiting! Good looks, thanks for sharing.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kei apple cold tolerance
« on: September 18, 2023, 05:19:49 PM »
I keep 4 trees in one pot that are in desperate need for a repotting. Theyíve definitely experienced mid 30s in my greenhouse with no problems. Two of the trees briefly flowered for the first time this year after growing from seed 3 yrs ago

Could you post a photo of the whole plant?

Really hoping to encounter seeds or cuttings at some point.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kei apple cold tolerance
« on: September 18, 2023, 12:55:47 PM »
I have some I'm testing out here in 9b, but they're kinda under some oaks. Hope they'll take some frost! There is a huge thicket of them established down in town at Franchesci Park, so there is a chance, but that's 10a.

Cuttings arrived yesterday. I'm going to graft one and try to root the other two.

Fig cuttings wrapped in buddy tape and inserted into well draining medium = 100% rooting success for me.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: September 16, 2023, 07:31:20 PM »

This one is in one of the best spots on the entire property. It used to have a cherimoya but it died, it seems to be doing pretty well.

This one has been in ground for some months, hasn't grown much at all but I see some promising signs at the nodes.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: High Stake Grafts
« on: September 15, 2023, 08:04:52 PM »
Is there multiple sources for Hirsuta, or you just have the one plant and need another seedling with any presumed possible genetic difference?
I would have guessed these were from the same batch of seeds/genetics since plants are same age?

This is a chunk from Nate's plant, which are all if I am correct from Marta's batch? Don't know of any other sources aside from Mr. Hewitt. I just needed another genetic variety to hopefully get cross pollination. Mine is flowering, I don't think Nate's was?

It's the best I can do given the circumstances. I did have one other hirsuta seedling but it it died off pretty quick, this one just trucks.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Do you thin your dragon fruit flower buds?
« on: September 15, 2023, 11:23:11 AM »
I alredy see some odd yellowing on several buds so i quess the massacre is about to begin.....

If little buds go yellow I'll push them off, it's satisfying. I caution you to be confident that the fruit has actually set or not, I often lose them a week or two after pollination. Sometimes even 3-4 weeks later. If the bud is wiggly at all, it will fall off and it's not a set. If it's firmly attached, it's set.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Do you thin your dragon fruit flower buds?
« on: September 15, 2023, 11:12:47 AM »
No, I don't. I pollinate all of them because the failure rate is somewhat high on pollination / set. If it's a small plant, I may thin fruit per branch, but now that I have huge plants I will let them hold all of them.

Restrict watering after pollination for a week, seems to really help.

Youre a legend Kaz

He really is! Thanks for these Kaz!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / High Stake Grafts
« on: September 14, 2023, 02:26:08 PM »

Grafting campomanesia hirsuta from another plant (thank you Wildlands Nursery / Nate!) to try to get some genetic diversity. My hirsuta flowers endlessly and makes no fruit so I think it needs a mate.

Anyone else done some high stakes grafting this year?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: September 14, 2023, 01:57:59 PM »
Kevin, if your seedlings grow well, I'll send you scions to graft, assuming my grafted plants make it.


Appreciate it Janet, will be at least a year by the looks of how slow things establish in my yard. It seems there is a 2 year wait for any real growth, then it goes well. I'll get a photo of my in ground seedlings soon.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wildlands' Eugenia spp. 'Orange' fruited
« on: September 14, 2023, 01:34:12 PM »
Wow, that's gorgeous. Is this the same as the Orange CORG that Marcos is selling?

Yes, I think same one. I have two big ones that flower, but didn't get any fruit this year. They are in much bigger pots now and should do great next year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: September 14, 2023, 01:32:34 PM »
Kevin, My m. californica has died back too all the grafts from excellent wood from Brad finally died some seemed to be going to push then failed. I cut back all the trucks one is still green at ends so time will tell. But I'm leaning towards Kevins, way of thinking lost two  grafted plants from original buy now this is 2nd time i grafted to m californica with no success so might be time to say no more for me too  :( :P
I applaud all the folks who have successfully grown yang mei and I wish you all fruitful future growing  ;) 8)

I have some seedlings for you next time I see you, to help assuage the pain! I have had much better luck with them, and for the price of one fruit (which I enjoyed anyways) it doesn't hurt if they die on me.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: September 13, 2023, 01:36:36 PM »
Sorry for your losses Kevin.

Did those plants dry up, or did they die and then the pots dried up?

I was very dutiful on keeping water within reason on all of these, but stopped watering the corpses hence why the soil looks dry. The one I am holding in my hand was californica which had been in ground for months and doing quite nicely. I felt confident to cut off all the rest of the Californica rootstock.

They all die from the top down. This has happened to all of them which I have kept potted, and now happened to that one in ground one too. This leads me to believe it is a root issue.

Kevin, sorry to see that.  How are your seedlings doing?  Maybe the best rootstock in the long run are seedlings. 


I had one seedling that was doing pretty well in ground die, another is barely holding on, and another seems to have settled in pretty well and is growing robustly. I replaced the in ground californica with another seedling and we'll see what happens. I put another non-grafted californica in ground in my orchard area and I'll graft it next year I guess.

I am so immensely frustrated by yangmei and all the attempts I've made. My well water can be problematic sometimes so I would like to blame that, but yeah, just have no answer to these issues really. Seedlings only for me going forward.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: September 13, 2023, 11:43:36 AM »

Wellp, thatís it for me folks. I give up. Myrica californica grafted plants died, as did the two imported ones. Maybe itís my well water, I donít know.

Update: just stopped by a local nursery - H&H in Long Beach - that had P lucidum of similar size with fruit on them. The ones at Exotica are in my opinion exactly the same. Each tree has many fruit of various sizes, some large, most regular or small. You could take a photo of one of the big ones and say 'look how big the fruit is!' but it would not mean the tree is the giant variety. It's normal for the subspecies for a few of the fruit to be abnormally large.

A well thinned guava will make monster size fruit compared to one that is allowed to hold all of them. Hopefully you can find what you're looking for.

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