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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Achacha in California?
« on: October 31, 2023, 08:15:05 PM »

SHV what is your potting soil for the achachas in 15 gals?

I have a couple Achachas that were approximately 4 ft high, nicely branched, doing well in an unheated greenhouse. I slowly introduced them to outdoor shade then full sun over a spring and summer. The new leaves would get trashed whenever there was a windy day under outdoor shade but would grow ok. Once exposed to full sun, the tree would get burnt to hell and new leaves would not fully develop.  Over the following winter, lots of dieback exposed to the elements.  I dug them up and potted them back in the greenhouse to recover and are doing fine.
You can grow them here, but they need a lot of protection from the elements, particularly if you live more inland.  Most seedling Garcinias that I have acquired do just fine in pots in a greenhouse, even with regular mid-high 30F nights. Space will eventually be the concern. Eventually will be a long time based on their slow growth.

Hereís my Achachas pushing all kinds of new growth. Had to tie their heads to the ceiling due to too heavy weight.  Both in 15 gallon pots and loving the desert heat of my greenhouse. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Achacha in California?
« on: October 25, 2023, 03:59:57 PM »
I have an achacha in a 3gallon pot thatís been outside unprotected since last year. So it will be coming up on its second winter outside. I noticed it was pushing new growth and wanted to see if others have trees that are doing the same thing in SoCal?

My Coconut Cream mango is very close to being ready maybe I will pick within the next week.I let this tree hold fruit back in 2021 and it was delicious. I gave it a rest year in 2022 to allow for more vegetative growth and resumed fruiting this year.

I look for the following characteristics to let me know itís ready: brown stem, lenticels dark and visible, smooth skin, color change from green to yellow, and presence of sugar beads.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real name for Birula atemoya?
« on: October 05, 2023, 12:52:04 AM »
Ryan, Wow !
Is that your tree with the fruit?

I thought the original bud mutation was from JF (Frank) tree, but I got my scions from Gozp.

Thanks Kaz! This is not my tree but I did get scions from it and I grafted it. Itís doing well. The tree was growing at a friendís place in north county I think near Rainbow or Fallbrook area.  I need to follow up and ask how his tree is doing.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real name for Birula atemoya?
« on: September 27, 2023, 03:59:43 PM »
To Kazís point, there is also a yellow Lisa! I donít know what happened to the mother tree but I was able to salvage a scion.

I would try Jaboticabas and see how they do for you. That would be an excellent fruit to take to market down the line.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mammey seeds germination?
« on: August 23, 2023, 12:08:09 AM »

I was able to plant the seed from a store-bought mamey, husk and all, and it sprouted pretty quickly. Just in a 1gal container with some big box store container mix and left in the gh.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee Taste Comparison
« on: August 17, 2023, 03:00:15 PM »
Kaz, the color of your Brewster looks very good - such a deep red to what I see in the stores. Thanks for sharing the taste comparison results. Can you also share a picture of your Brewster tree when you get a chance too?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: no longer active?
« on: May 04, 2023, 12:12:53 AM »
I canít really comment on how often his page is updated but I did want to also add on to what Nick said and mention that I placed an order last month and everything went smoothly.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherilata in Southern California
« on: May 03, 2023, 12:32:04 PM »
Iím looking forward to your taste report, Mark!

Great list here thanks everyone for sharing. I donít think Iíve even tasted 10 mango varieties in my life haha but hope to change that soon. Not many options here at the grocery stores or markets in SoCal.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Show Your Loquat Fruits - 2023
« on: April 19, 2023, 01:21:40 PM »
Yes, I want to see how well loquats grow in containers. I have a Kosmic that needs up potting or put it in the ground but running out of yard real states.

On my walk through a small neighborhood community in San Diego I saw this loquat tree in what looks like a 20 gallon pot. It was fruiting and looked pretty good for being in a container. I didnít get a chance to talk to the owner otherwise I would have asked more about it. Hope this helps provide some perspective.

Great list here, Mark!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Pruning Help, tiny trunk
« on: February 27, 2023, 11:39:53 PM »

I agree with Janet. I will include a screenshot of how I would approach it so that it bushes out and up earlier.


I would say using your hands (with gloves on) and scrub the scales off. Depending on the size of your tree it would be easy enough but if you have a large tree I wouldnít recommend it. Also, go after the ants. Iíve found that eliminating or reducing ants in the yard helps to keep other pestsí numbers down as well. But ant bait is $$$.


Can be grafted onto cherimoya?

yes both are compatible


Asian Black cuttings came in great condition and even had some sprouting. Thanks again Luke and GPF!


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 10b - best snacking fruits for kids
« on: January 25, 2023, 12:27:08 PM »
Would recommend the following:
ēJaboticaba (Tree/Shrubby)
ēMulberry (Tree)
ēStrawberry (Groundcover)
ēFig (Tree/Shrubby)

Have fun!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: African Pride ?
« on: September 09, 2022, 07:04:51 PM »
Your fruit has plumb skin like a sugar apple.
Itís an atemoya.

AP is also an atemoya.
Its skin is flat like picture below.

Your fruit is not an AP.

I agree with Seannyís assessment!

Hi Raul,

Do you still have seeds available?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: first sugarlata fruit of the 2022 season
« on: August 08, 2022, 11:06:43 PM »
Good looking fruit and taste report, Mike! Did you give your sugarlata a name? The scions you sent me in 2020 are doing okay here in SoCal.


Congrats Kevin! Do you have a plant availability list?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help ID this Annona Fruit ?
« on: May 02, 2022, 08:41:42 PM »
Hey Kaz,

Your fruit looks like AP to me. Hope your scions took 👍🏼


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How rare or common is this
« on: May 02, 2022, 08:32:19 PM »
I have not noticed more than three petals on atemoya flowers but for what itís worth, Iíve seen several 4-6 petal flowers on cherimoyas, specifically on my fino de jete tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this ElBumpo?
« on: March 31, 2022, 03:03:17 AM »
It does look similar to El Bumpo however here is a picture from the University of California Riverside for comparison. As you can see, the photo has more pronounced protuberances.

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