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The leaves are wimpy and do that when it gets cold or very dry like we have now. But as Coconut Cream said, the trees are pretty bulletproof. I’ve left seedlings in small pots for weeks without water and they just bounce back when conditions are nice. Carambola’s are tap root trees so if you plan on putting it in the ground, you’ll want to do it sooner rather than later. It seems like the larger I let them get in pots, the slower and longer it takes for them to take off in the ground.

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Spray?  What’s that  :P

Maybe some compost tea if I get around to making some but that’s about it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this tree ready?
« on: March 18, 2025, 07:47:42 PM »
Sadly, today is the day. Angie has produced and is holding a  very decent amount of fruit. I was hoping that by some miracle her stem would suddenly swell up to 2 inches in diameter.



Planted as a 7 gallon tree, she hasn't been in the ground a full year yet. I hate removing the fruit,  but it will help her get better established. Hopefully this year is an indication of how fruitful she will be for the 2026 mango season.

and they look so healthy too. 😔
Next year they'll be ready for sure!

My Angie’s first fruiting year produced maybe 5 fruits and the possums got 3 of them. The two that I ate didn’t taste that great either. It was a decent sized tree maybe 4’ tall with complex canopy and sturdy trunk but I should have just taken them off. It didn’t flush much new growth after the fruits came off. The following year was the bad year where nobody got mangoes. That year, the canopy almost doubled in size and the following year, I had 50 fruits and they tasted great.  Don’t feel too bad about waiting one more year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: March 16, 2025, 10:14:06 AM »
Just got home from a trip to Asheville, NC. I had never noticed it before but the conservatory at the Biltmore has a fruiting Jabo. Looks like a Sabara from the bark. The base of the trunk is at least 3” diameter so it must be 15+ years old. It looked to be in a 15gal pot.





Then I walk outside this morning to see my Red hybrid :D:




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Thanks for that tidbit. I typically start with mulch to cover the sand but the most productive areas of my yard are where the ground cover has taken over under the fruit trees. I don’t mow or trim those areas anymore.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nurseries to visit in West Palm Beach
« on: March 07, 2025, 10:36:59 AM »
Trees n more is a good place to go.
In Palm City area, Martin County, if you're looking to buy trees.

Can confirm. Start with Mike because he is the closest and has the best prices that you will find.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nurseries to visit in West Palm Beach
« on: March 06, 2025, 09:57:07 PM »
Jack and Beanstalk as well as Love Plant Nursery are close to Xian’s. Also, Incredible Edible Landscapes.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Strawberry Tree (Muntingia calabura)
« on: March 06, 2025, 07:52:48 PM »
These fruits go from unripe to ripe to overripe in the same day. They’re not something that can be shipped. They are most flavorful in the afternoon of a sunny day and are definitely larger if it has been raining.

I’m pretty sure the squirrels leave my mangoes alone since they have free rein to chow down on my muntingia. There’s still enough for me to snack every day during the long season.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2025 Mango season
« on: March 02, 2025, 08:05:12 PM »
Sunrise flowered heavily this year but has not set any fruit. The panicles that are still blooming appear to have only male flowers. Does anyone know if this is common for this variety?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red jaboticaba hybrid growing unusual
« on: February 26, 2025, 05:32:13 PM »
Looks normal. My red hybrid sends off interior shoots and suckers from the roots all the time. When you prune, just don’t take off too much since it’ll make it grow even more slowly.

It could also be location and sun exposure. Plants that are in more shade will grow taller and more leggy. The ones I have in full sun stay short and dense like that.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Miracle Berry Issues
« on: February 15, 2025, 03:23:51 PM »
My vote is for too much sun. My only miracle fruit that has red color on the leaves is the one that gets several hours of  direct sun every day.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2025 Mango season
« on: February 15, 2025, 01:19:41 PM »
We’re in full bloom up on the Space Coast.

Angie.  This tree is around 7 years old and is a workhorse for me:


PPK (bloomed earlier than others and is currently sending out a small 2nd bloom). This one looks like it had some PM but is still setting fruit. I haven’t been impressed with PPk. Not sure if it’s my microclimate or what but they never seem to fully ripen.  If it continues to disappoint, it’s getting topworked:


Sunrise.  Started from a 1 gal from Julian 3+ years ago. It’s been a fairly slow grower and this is the first year I’m letting it hold some fruit:


M4.  This one has an only been in the ground for a year and a half and has been growing like crazy. I’m letting it hold some fruit to slow it down:


PPK had some PM but looks to be setting fruit anyway.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jujube graft or rootstock
« on: February 15, 2025, 01:11:14 PM »
I ended up cracking the stem while trying to inarch graft so I just put a couple normal veneer grafts on the suspect stem a few weeks ago when our cold weather came to an end. The whole plant is pushing now including the grafts!




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba ID
« on: January 05, 2025, 06:11:21 PM »
It looks a bit like red hybrid or escarlate. Jabo’s tend to sprout out of both ends of the seed so it’s common to find two stems.

I’ve never tried separating two big stems like that but several of my jabo’s have sent out root suckers and I have successfully separated them off when up-potting the main tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: January 03, 2025, 04:10:45 PM »
Would I be crazy to plant a Jaboticaba in the lower area of my yard that drains a lot more slowly than the rest? Wouldn't that be an almost ideal environment?

I know they can handle being waterlogged for long periods of time so as long as it’s not a mucky swamp back there all the time, they should be fine. They do like shade from the harsh sun, especially when young. The other thing is acidic soil. From what I’ve gathered here, Sabara is more tolerant of non-ideal soils so I’ve planted a few Sabara seedlings in my yard and have either already grafted or intend to graft other varieties onto them.

As I was walking around my fruit trees this afternoon enjoying the sunny cool weather, I noticed my yellow jabo is also flowering for the first time. It came from 9waters on Etsy in spring of 2021 as a tiny seedling. It was recently stepped up into a 25gal pot:





I’m looking forward to comparing the yellow with strigipes.  The flowers on the yellow are pungent and smell like jasmine.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: January 01, 2025, 03:50:44 PM »
Is Myrciaria Strigipes known to be precocious?  I bought a few seeds from Bellamy in November ‘21. One is flowering now.  I stepped it up to a 15gal pot a couple months ago. It’s only a couple feet tall.









My 6 year old red hybrid is going to have another nice crop:







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Protecting young trees from a freeze
« on: December 30, 2024, 03:11:29 PM »
I think those would be fine. Just remember that any leaf that touches the cloth or plastic will get damaged if it freezes. You’re really protecting the trunk and branches so they can push new growth.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Protecting young trees from a freeze
« on: December 30, 2024, 01:15:21 PM »
We will typically get a freeze for a couple hours around dawn as opposed to the all nigh freezes that northern Florida can get. If most of your plants are still in pots, move them near a wall of your house (southern would be best). I’ve covered small mangoes with sheets. The outer leaves touching the sheets will get damaged but the wood underneath will be fine. If you have an overstory of oak etc, that will also act as heat retention for your smaller plants.

If you have any truly tropical plants, then a more elaborate support around the plant to keep the cloth off it might be needed.  You can also add a 10-25w reptile heat lamp under the cloth if you want to make things toasty.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: is this front yard jackfruit fair game?
« on: December 29, 2024, 05:05:45 PM »
I planted a seedling jackfruit at the front corner of my property with the expectation that IF it makes it to fruiting age and IF the fruit is any good and IF anyone in my area even knows what it is, I may feed someone else. I’ve thought about planting a mulberry out along the road in the easement for the walkers.

Countless laws have been written and lawyers have been made rich by people who refuse to talk. If I saw a tree with tons of ripe fruit, I’d start a conversation with the property owner.

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This makes me happy I picked up a Nishikawa from Mike at Trees N More for my parents yard as a Christmas gift.

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I’ve been watching that thread about the sprayer with agitator wondering why people need to spray. I’ve had an Angie producing for the past 4 years and the only thing that prevents me from enjoying all of my mangoes are the raccoons. Never any anthracnose or disease. I have a few other cultivars that will begin producing this year so I’ll have to see if it’s the variety or my location.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best loquat varieties
« on: December 27, 2024, 09:09:35 AM »
I really enjoy Champagne. It’s sweet when full ripe and it has a nice tangy taste when slightly underripe.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Mango seeds
« on: December 16, 2024, 07:29:38 PM »
At this point in Florida, you would be looking for seedlings from this summers harvest, not seeds.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Cold Front (and Mangos)
« on: December 16, 2024, 02:50:08 PM »
M4 is also just starting to push for me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jujube graft or rootstock
« on: December 16, 2024, 02:48:17 PM »
Kapps, imo, don't cut off the sucker.  Cut a branch of the original and graft onto the sucker to get its benefit.

Ah, that’s a good idea. Thanks!

Is it best to wait until spring to graft the evergreen varieties or is fall/winter ok?  I could probably do an inarch graft between the two stems.

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