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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First flowers of Macleania smithiana
« on: November 28, 2022, 08:21:18 PM »
She's a beauty for sure! Nice job.

Great to see you around Digi

Wow, December is upon us.


Is it time to send payment yet?

Wangoes. They are new and very few people have tried them. I am convinced that locked within their genome lies some useful code for our future fruits.

Not directed at people on this forum, but mangoes are largely under appreciated in the USA. Especially up north. Funny though, most people here in South Florida have never had a really good mango. Opinions vary greatly, but my belief is there is a mango flavor profile that suits everyone, if they just find it. Mangoes are indeed an underrated fruit.

Or clean them (take seed out) and freeze. Throw them in blender and make stuff when you are ready. Those are too good to let go to waste, but I know processing fruit can be a royal pita.

Cleaning guanabana before it goes bad is a chore for me, and I gotta get ALL the seeds out.

Have been freezing peppers before they go bad; seeds and all. They are surprisingly good when the time comes to use them.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Trees with high ornamental value
« on: November 27, 2022, 06:30:16 PM »
Seems there is a wide range of what we consider "ornamental" and beautiful, which is itself beautiful.

How plants are grouped together and their background and landscaping all make a difference. Time of year as and conditions as well.

Re rollinia, it is a beautiful tree that can be trimmed to create a nice umbrella canopy. It is pleasant and cool underneath.

Thanks Stomata! Let's do a trade in the near future. My plant is not quite ready for cuttings, but soon.

Thanks Benjamin. I have a few p. laurifolia plants. One of them is over 60 feet. Grows up and down a large pongam tree. Was sold to me as nitida, but has revealed itself to be otherwise. Will post a pic soon, the stalk on this thing is nuts.

I have a young Nitida but mine is way young.  Not sure if self pollinating but I hope it is because I only have the one plant.  It is a quick grower though and develops roots super fast so I suppose will know by next year or 2 if self fertile.  I am basically treating it like a regular passionfruit and it is doing great.

Let's trade plant material when ours get older.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Trees with high ornamental value
« on: November 23, 2022, 11:07:53 AM »
jabos, carambola, caimito

Hello Everyone!

Looking for p. nitida. I have a plant, and have some sprouts that may or may not make it (snail attack).

As I don't know if 2 plants are need for pollination/fruit (does anyone know if p. nitida is self fertile?), looking for another plant.

Willing to buy or even trade. Not sure my plant is big enough for cuttings yet, but would be willing to trade material with another nitida owner. Have other material for trade.

Thanks for all info and leads.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selling fresh kwai muk seeds - usa
« on: November 21, 2022, 08:05:14 PM »
Thanks for the info and explanation monkeyfish. I agree with you, sounds like a lot of trouble and not worth it.

What is your take on the flavor of kwai muk?

That is not passiflora laurifolia. No idea what it is.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selling fresh kwai muk seeds - usa
« on: November 19, 2022, 04:22:28 PM »
I'd love to order some fresh fruit as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seashore mangosteen in California?
« on: November 18, 2022, 04:26:09 PM »
Seashore is actually one of the faster growing garcinias. Ours has really taken off, and dwarfs all the other family members we grow. Seems pretty tough too.

Your main issue might be humidity. A greenhouse would be best.

If you start with a reasonably sized tree, who knows how long to fruiting. From seed, will take a long time, but could be a fun experiment. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pine Bark Mulch and Tropical Fruit Trees
« on: November 17, 2022, 09:53:31 PM »
Termites eat plant material. Not pine bark nuggets fault termites are around and are always hungry. Most other mulch is termite fodder as well. If it's not, might not be good for your plants (if toxic to termites). 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pine Bark Mulch and Tropical Fruit Trees
« on: November 17, 2022, 07:41:45 PM »
Pine bark mulch is mostly what I use. Love it.

I drink a lot of kombucha made from fruits. Currently drinking Gamboge (yellow mangosteen). Past flavors include dragon passion fruit, mango passion fruit, bignay, lychee, jaboticaba, and cacao. Low alcohol content, and tastes way better than beer, wine, or liquor. Kegs are the way to go.


Just went and sniffed CC and SL leaves, from grafted trees. They actually smell quite similar to me, with mild citrus aroma. SL was a little stronger.

LOL, my wife says they both smell like grass.

Seems leaves aren't smelling as strong as usual.

Will test them again during the day. Maybe the smell is milder early evening vs daytime. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya video
« on: November 15, 2022, 05:25:41 PM »
Fantastic videography! Yum

Sprinkling cinnamon powder can help.

Al's Fruit Trees in Miami had nice sized Pickerings last time I was there; bought 15g for my buddy.

OK! I dug out my old notes on this one, and learned a few more things! I really appreciate the discussion on this thread. It's really important for us to know the safety of our hobby :).

... It's unfortunate that he didn't make the connection that his symptoms got worse when he ate the fruit.

Wait, so if I understand this right, whether or not annonas will harm you seems to be in some way genetically linked? fascinating idea. It would make sense for the studies to be skewed (similar to say, a study on starfruit using people with bad livers) and appears that annona is harmful to you given the results.

What we really need is a control group of completely normal, 'healthy' people, and then people with PSP and other mentioned illnesses in the studies, and a better way of measuring whether or not it is affecting rats in the same way it would affect humans (like say dogs and chocolate)

Also, I have no indepth knowledge of anatomy so idk how realistic the dog and chocolate comparison is to rat and human brains. Still though, very interesting.

No. From what I'm reading, annonacin is neurotoxic. Not good for anyone's neurons. Like alcohol in a way. Some people are more susceptible. Annonacin levels of fruit appear to vary greatly between species, and within the same species and plants, depending on time of harvest and other variables.

Most of us can probably get by with eating our favorites, within reason (whatever that means). Paw paw appears the worst of those assessed so far, followed by guanabana.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: FS Red Hybrid 3 gallon
« on: November 13, 2022, 01:18:19 PM »
Dustin has some great plants, super healthy stock. Gotta get over there again soon =)

I'm very sensitive to smell, and usually know a lot about how something will taste from smell, with exceptions. As such, it is hard for me to force myself to try something that smells off. Have picked fruit in all kinds of stage of ripeness, and underripe is not as bad (smell). Ripe fruits smell like bad cheese and funky feet mixed together.

Our noni was in a 15+ gallon wood pot, and then grew through it/busted it to pieces and now is in ground. It's gone crazy. The area where it is planted is grown over, so the fruits just disappear into the bush or drop into the lawn. Critters may be eating them, cuz I don't see too many in the grass anymore.

I've heard that locals use noni leaves more than the fruit. They can be used to cook with, steaming rice and meats within wrapped leaves. Used like cooking in banana leaves. Have been meaning to try.

Noni is on my list too, has been fruiting for years; can't bring myself to try even a nibble. It smells so bad. Everything else, try as soon as possible. lol. Can't wait to hear about your experience.

Also growing a few cultivars of mango, and mango and Jakfruit seedlings that have yet to try.


e. victoriana
Grimal jabo
Yehuda loquat
Butterscotch sap (fruiting now)

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