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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ice Cream Mango
« on: June 10, 2016, 12:52:45 AM »
This is my ice cream from my 15g potted tree last year.  I waited till it softened on the counter before eating

I have actually bought a tree with the black electric tape used as grafting tape so i think its possible to use it for grafting

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sapodilla not leafing
« on: March 07, 2016, 11:35:02 AM »
My makok is just barely putting out new growth.  So I think what your experiencing is probably normal

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starting Pitangatuba seeds
« on: February 20, 2016, 03:51:14 PM »
It takes a while to germinate for me so just be patient.  Its otherwise very easy germinate

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chempedak Madu (Honey Chempedak)
« on: February 15, 2016, 11:14:59 AM »
In taiwan they use approach graft and even then the success rate is not very high.  Having said that, this is just what the nursery people tell me.  I have no personal experience.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chempedak Madu (Honey Chempedak)
« on: February 15, 2016, 12:59:32 AM »
I just came back from Taiwan.  They had trouble growing Chempedak from seed because they wouldn't survive the winter.  Then they graft it on Jakfruit rootstocks and they were then able to grow it.  I would assume the same is true for Florida since weather is similar

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How can one tell if a mango seed is viable?
« on: February 05, 2016, 08:03:20 PM »
Looks viable.  I usually just wrap them in wet paper towel and store in a zip lock bag.  It will germinate is about 10 days

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: tip pruning mango
« on: January 26, 2016, 04:48:04 PM »
Tipping helps shape the ultimate shape of the tree as the tree tend to branch at the point it is cut.  So how much you cut off is dependent on how you want to shape it.  I would wait till the flowers becomes fruitlets and cut them off when it gets to BB size. the reason is that trees tend to flower again rather than put out vegetative growth when you cut it off at flower stage.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: January mango!
« on: January 02, 2016, 07:38:33 PM »
This past season have been a bit wierd.  The ice cream mango flowered many times but didnt set fruit till late august.  Hopefully it stays a late mango in future seasons.  While ice cream is smaller, i prefer it to keitt for late season mango

Tropical Fruit Discussion / January mango!
« on: January 01, 2016, 06:57:23 PM »
The last of my icecream mango finally matured.  Never thought i would have mangos going into january.  I guess icecream mango is a very late mango for california!

U may want to try papaya tree nursery which is closer to your side of town.  Otherwise i do believe u can get some lychee and longan from san gabriel nursery, champa nursery or temple garden nursery in el monte/sgv area.  Greenmart in orange also sells them.  They wont be cheap though.  Each of them will probably run u 70-80 bucks for a 3-5g

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: So Cal mango start flowering
« on: December 11, 2015, 05:51:22 PM »
Yes dont make the mistake i did.  I killed my peach cobbler by letting it hold fruit.  And the fruit was subpar anywayys because the graft was so young

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Californians, please help !
« on: December 11, 2015, 05:48:46 PM »
Home depot can be tricky.  Their plant tag just says cherimoya but the pot's sticker will say the cultivar/varieties.  They source from la verne nursery so it is considered reputable.  But they really need to label the plants better.  The el bumpo i got from there appears legit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Californians, please help !
« on: December 11, 2015, 05:36:53 PM »
I thibk importing to france and the european union is a bigger question as well but to answer your other question home depot may have some cherimoya at this time.  Also green mart in orange also have cherimoya atemoy for sale as well.  I dont know much about the passiflora species

I do not there are laws against plants leaving the state

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: So Cal mango start flowering
« on: December 10, 2015, 08:09:20 PM »
Last year I had many of my mangos flower around this time (Icecream, alampur to name a few) but they didn't fruit from the bloom due to some december rain.  So I think for some varieties its normal but whether it bear fruits from the bloom is another story

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where to buy persimmon trees in So Cal?
« on: November 07, 2015, 11:28:23 AM »
H&H nursery in Lakewood has all the common varieties (Hachiya, fuyu, chocolate, coffee cake, juro)  In jan and feb they usually have them 20% off since they are still dormant at that time.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Amazing Dragon Fruit House
« on: November 02, 2015, 01:30:15 AM »
I pass by that house all the time when I go for dim sum.  He take pretty good care and pruning of the dragon fruit vines to keep good heights.  I don't know if he hand pollinates but I have seen ladders for maintainence during flower season.  He has a pretty good trellis system.  I don't think my dragon fruit will ever look that good.

Johnny. You may want to check with Champa nursery in El monte.  They get their trees from PIN.  That's where I bought my makok.  I don't think they sell any big sapodillas though but you can call and check

Sapodilla grows well in your zone.  My three gal makok from last year is already the size of you tree.  The trick is in the transplanting.  Sapodilla have delicate roots.  I have killed at least two plants early on because i transplanted it by yanking the trunk out of the pot the way i normally transplant mango.  For the two sapodilla i currently have, i cut the nursery pot verticaly in half (but still connected).  The i brought the entire pot to the predug hole and adjust the hole accordingly.  Then i simply slide the split nursery pot to the side and refilled the hole.  With this method, i find the rootball is undisturbed and it can continue growing the same season

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need Info about Taiwanese guava...
« on: October 25, 2015, 02:07:09 PM »
The common one is known as pearl guava.  It is a large hard guava that is subtle in sweetness. There is very little of the typical guava taste in it.  There are of course other varieties out there. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Refrigerating Guava
« on: October 17, 2015, 12:39:28 AM »
For hard guavas, it doesn't seem to alter the taste.  In fact I prefer them chilled.  For the softer flesh guavas, refrigerating may change the texture a bit but the flavor in general does not.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where is the Fruit Punch
« on: October 06, 2015, 01:11:47 AM »
LZ tend to grow upright (at least in So cal)  and may ultimately grow into your pickering canopy.  Like BSbullie says, you might end up hacking at the LZ branch constantly.  However, I think it might be possible to train the LZ side branch in a way that you promote lateral branching (kind of like a espeliar) and make it productive.  I know for sure a pickering doesn't have a chance when grafted with a LZ in so cal because pickering grows even slower here in so cal.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Platano & Manini
« on: October 04, 2015, 12:26:27 PM »
Nice plant. I am a fan of variegated plants as well.  If u have a pup for sale, i would be interested as well

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2-3 mango trees in one hole
« on: September 30, 2015, 10:19:02 AM »
I would agree with simon.  I have a multigrafted peach/plum/apricot and the plum dominated and is quit difficult to control.  For my pluots and aprium i decided to plant four trees in a large hole and the growth is much more controllable.

My thoughts are that if u multigraft, u need to graft scions of similar vigor.  I know it wont be perfect match but u should probably put the ones that flush more on the lower branchs.  Otherwise the flushes will shade out the lower branches.  I find pruning the vigorous top branches difficult as it just cause more flushes and branchin which will shade the bottom branch more.  Unless u plan to prune on a daily basis

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Worst deal ever?
« on: September 18, 2015, 11:19:45 PM »
I bought a box of ataulfo from their artesia store last week for the same price.  I think the reason for the high price is that it's the first crop from brazil (its spring in the southern hemisphere).  Early mangoes can command a higher price.  Having said that, paying that much for tommy's are crazy...  However the good news is that brazil is growing at least ataulfo commercially for export which means we should see some ataulfo into december and january in the grocery store.  That would extend the season a bit for us.

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