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The tree leaves looks dark green to me. I wouldn't give any fertilizer anymore this year.
Depending on the weather it could flush late and not have flowers next year on the new growth.
I have a couple larger mango trees and I don't fertilize them at all.  I do give  my young mangos
8-4-8. My neighbor gave his large Lancetilla and Angie fertilizer non stop last year and the leaves
are super dark green and not one flower this year.

Yes the foliage is dark green and I can't find even one brown spot anywhere on the leaves. It's so green it looks fake.

I would not give them any nitrogen, unless you're wanting them to get big quickly. Be careful not to feed the grass with nitrogen too close to the root zone either.

There is a special 0-3-16 formulation that Har / Guanabanus helped create which is sold by Truly Tropical and is perfect for mangoes on our sandy soil:

I don't fertilize the lawn so I'm safe there. I'll have to look around for something similar to that 0-3-16 because Truly Tropical doesn't ship. Thanks

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Should I stop the nitrogen on my mangoes now?
« on: September 05, 2023, 10:28:29 AM »
The last time I applied any fertilizer to my Maha and Glen trees was in March 2023. They've grown magnificently, the Maha (below) started out 2 1/2 years ago at 3', and is now about 8-9' high by about that much wide. There is a pine bark mulch surrounding it and my lawn mower throws clippings on top of that. I really want a great fruiting season for next year so I don't want to mess it up with too much fertilizer. I'm thinking should apply something that doesn't have nitrogen but not sure about the best analysis to use. Is the pine bark providing nitrogen? Any help is appreciated.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hurricane Idalia
« on: August 30, 2023, 11:19:50 PM »
Your daughter lives in the neighborhood I grew up in.  ;)

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Why has my Sugar Belle stopped growing?
« on: August 30, 2023, 11:15:16 PM »
Wilting and death on one side of a plant is a symptom of fusarium. Not sure if citrus gets it or not.

This seems quite possible after reading this article. Thanks!

A review of Florida citrus blight and its association with soil edaphic factors, nutrition and Fusarium solani

Blight is an important disease of citrus and is the most serious disease of this crop in Florida, a major citrus producer. The disease affects the xylem of the tree and symptoms are those associated with water stress. Interveinal zinc‐deficiency occurs in young leaves on a branch and eventually spreads until the whole tree is affected. Wilt occurs in areas on the tree. Fruits are usually normal in appearance but reduced in size, and sometimes irregular in shape. Blighted trees also have fibrous dry root rot symptoms and Fusarium solani appears to be associated with those symptoms. In Florida there appears to be a relationship between blight occurrence and shallow soils. Studies indicate that soil moisture stress, unfavourable drainage and poor rooting volume unfavourably affect root growth and development in shallow soils. It is thought that the cause of blight is a complex of factors involving soils and their management and Fusarium solani. Ammonium nitrate predisposes roots to infection by F. solani and it is thought that this might happen in the field when ammonium nitrate fertilizers are commonly used. Ammonium forms of nitrogen are required by the fungus for toxin production. Chemical control methods have not proved very successful. It is suggested that effective control might be achieved by planting tolerant rootstocks in well‐drained soils with timely applications of lower rates of fertilizers. Also irrigation measures that reduce soil moisture stress around the roots should be practised.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Why has my Sugar Belle stopped growing?
« on: August 29, 2023, 10:01:04 PM »
So, as I reported in mid-June my Sugar Belle that I repotted was putting on some very nice, luscious growth and contimued to do so until about 2 weeks ago. Then one side of the tree began to wilt and droop, then a week later the other half wilted. No brown edges or discoloration on the leaves, no insects and nothing obvious to cause this. The tree is now dead. I examined the roots today after I pulled it out of the pot and they look perfectly normal to my eye. Any ideas about this mystery?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How many people eat mango skin?
« on: August 08, 2023, 10:17:58 PM »
A former coworker from Venezuela brought a mango or two to work every day and often shared with me. He always ate the skin and suggested I do the same, for the nutrients. I did and found the skin palatable but unless the skin is thin and grown in my yard I'll toss those peelings into the mulch pile.

The General Public tend to reject any fruit that has a blemish or looks as I call it dirty.

This is one major reason we've ended up with tasteless apples, tomatoes and other items in grocery stores,
but I blame the grocery stores. Heirloom fruits and vegetables can't be found locally in most places these days.
I think most Americans don't really know what a real original tomato tastes like.

Pruning, and stunting a tree are two different things with two different outcomes. Selective pruning, or trimming as you stated, is a recurring procedure that's proven beneficial to the tree and its productivity. Stunting a tree benefits you pehaps but not the tree. Unless you're the owner of a large grove the desire to save money and time isn't a consideration. Residential 'fruit forests' and their maintenance are intended to be a fun and fulfilling hobby, in my humble opinion and personal experience.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Am I doing the right thing?
« on: July 31, 2023, 09:33:59 PM »
It's obvious you care a lot about that little mango tree and I applaud you for it. Hopefully it'll grow up big and healthy and give you lots of great fruit. I have a similar situation with a couple of young citrus trees that I have covered with citrus creening to prevent HLB/Citrus Greening. Maybe my efforts will pay off. Good luck with your mango tree!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top 3 mango varieties poll
« on: July 25, 2023, 08:52:52 AM »
There were 500 views, and only 38 voted?  :o

There are some popular forum varieties missing from the poll. Carrie, Maha, Glen ...

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Micronutrients spray
« on: July 22, 2023, 04:03:13 PM »
My micros spray has Fe so canít use on new growth.

What happens if you spray a liquid fertilizer with FE on new growth?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: July 17, 2023, 10:11:21 AM »

We got a set of those Corelle Butterfly Gold dishes as a wedding gift in 1975. Still have most of them!

I have a stalk of Nam Wah I cut down this week with two conjoined bananas. Siamese twins LOL

Plant more mangoes!!


  Thank you for the responses, maybe I will just ignore the leaf miners, from what I understand is that it is just aesthetic and does no long term damage. I wonder is moringa leaf extract sprayed on leaves will work?(we have plenty on the property) I have just recently heard of using it as a pest deterrent with no negative long term effects. I need to fertilize more often, I have only been doing it every three months, I will try every other month. All of our citrus trees are on raised berms that are about 50+' long, with a nice top dressing of composted organic matter, we had a dump truck full delivered to top dress the berms with decomposed wood  chips for a cover, all wood chips are away from the trunks.

Excellent choice with the raised berms and the compost!
Sounds like you might be out there east of Punta Gorda around Washington Loop?

Leaf miners? I don't bother trying to control them.

I use Sunniland Citrus granular you can get at Home Depot and other locations. 6-4-6 with micro's, every other month. Keep in mind that granulars get washed down really good with a good rain, which can drive the nutrients past the roots before they can use it. So if it's a heavy rain season you may want to replenish every month. On my small trees (1st year or two), about 1 cup per application. I use 2 cups when the trees are 3 years old or older. I also use this same fertilizer on my mangoes and bananas.

I also use a quality Peters water soluble with micro's as a foliar spray a few times per year, and as an occasional drench.
From Amazon.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When is too late to prune a mango
« on: June 26, 2023, 07:00:43 PM »
Once it starts branching out here's a great video someone on here shared with me a while back showing how to prune the canopy.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Nam Wah bananas for 2023
« on: June 26, 2023, 05:13:36 PM »
Nice! Mine started sending out a flower last week so hereís hoping that we donít get a hurricane because it probably wonít be ripe until December.

This one flowered in late March, so 3 months or so. My tree fell over or I would have left the stalk intact so the fuit would get a little larger.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / First Nam Wah bananas for 2023
« on: June 26, 2023, 11:02:41 AM »
Tree fell over a week ago from the weight of the fruit. Divided the stalk in half and brown paper bagged them. Delicioso!

Show us your crop.

haha oh boy, the perennial question.

If I could only grow one, I'd say Maha Chanok.

Many years ago, a guy by the name of Harry Haussman -- owner of a multi-acre, multi-decade old mango orchard with somewhere north of 100 cultivars -- proclaimed Maha Chanok as the best all around mango. I was a skeptic but planted out a tree grafted from scions taken from his Maha Chanok for trialing. I've been growing it for about 10 years now, and I think I have to agree with old Harry.

Flavor is consistently very good to excellent, production fairly strong and consistent, and very resistant to anthracnose and probably MBBS as well. The tree also isn't particularly vigorous. But it does take a few years to come into production.

Thanks for this post Cookie Monster. Reading this lifted my confidence and comfort in choosing to plant a Maha a few years ago in my backyard. Can't wait until a year from now when I am hoping I'll have a modest yet quality crop.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What would u plant here ?
« on: June 22, 2023, 02:34:15 PM »
I would mix it up with fruiting trees and shrubs that fit in your area, and without a doubt I would run a short line of eating grapes in there as well.

The best tasting mangoes I've ever eaten came from a 40 year-old Carrie tree in my in-laws' yard. It's hard for me to believe there are better tasting mangoes out there but I am sure there are. My tasting experience with mangoes is limited, but I've also found a lot of love for Florigon.

The trees I planted in my yard were decided upon by quality of the fruit, growth habit and maintainability. I plan to keep the trees no more than 15' high and as wide as they want to grow. One Maha Chanock and one Glenn. I hope they live up to their reputation.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Happy Fathers Day
« on: June 18, 2023, 08:50:03 PM »
That looks amazing! You're a lucky guy. Happy Father's Day!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: June 16, 2023, 07:46:07 PM »
Thanks for the feedback fellas. Of course nothing can be done about the rain but at least I'll know what happened if my Glenn's and Maha's taste funky.  :'(

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