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Perennial peanut and sunshine mimosa seem to be the two big nitrogen fixing covers in Florida. One will likely work in your situation but if you just want something covering the ground, the local ďweedsĒ that pop up on their own do a great job at starting to build soil if you are ok with how they look. Iíve just about given up trying to control the ďFlorida snowĒ weed but whenever I pull up itís thick mat, beneath is a nice damp soil.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are there dwarf loquats
« on: November 22, 2023, 10:14:14 AM »
My parents have a seedling loquat thatís over 10 years old and has never flowered. On the flip side, I have grafted named varieties to seedlings and they flowered the following year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rabbit discourager
« on: November 11, 2023, 08:49:46 PM »
There are always hawks around my house in spring when the rabbits are out. Iíve thought about putting in tall posts for them to sit on.  Iíve had good luck protecting plants from rabbits using 2í high hardware cloth zip tied in a ring

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian almond (terminalia catappa)
« on: November 06, 2023, 05:24:39 PM »
As others have said, the seeds are supposed to be a pain to get into. Mine flowered but hasnít set nuts yet.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian almond (terminalia catappa)
« on: November 05, 2023, 06:35:54 PM »
Yep, I bought a dozen seeds from an Etsy seller in India several years ago for under $10.  Itís a beautiful tree and gives a dense shade with large leaves that fall in winter.  Itís a fast grower but cold sensitive and not very tolerant of hurricanes. After the top 6í got knocked off a couple years ago, Iíve been keeping mine under 10í by pruning for chop and drop nearly every other week.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Nam Wah bananas for 2023
« on: November 05, 2023, 09:03:20 AM »
I am still waiting for my first crop of (dwarf) nam wah.
Some people said to cover the banana bunch (on the plant) with a trash bag to speed up the ripening of the bananas. Is it a myth? This is my first banana crop and I don't want to experiment with it. :)

I havenít done it. There is a definite improvement in flavor between bananas that are picked early but eventually ripen and those that are left on the stalk until yellow. I figure that forcing them to ripen faster is taking away the last bit of nutrients that the plant is pushing into them. 

How tall are your plants and how many bananas did it produce? I had a ďdwarfĒ namwa a couple of years ago and it fruited but barely fit in my 14í greenhouse (it was in a pot). Also I got 57 off of it in a 35 gallon pot, curious what they would max out at.

Mine get big. ďDwarfĒ seems to mean that they flower under 10í tall but remember thatís just the growing tip, not the leaves. I never counted the number of individual bananas but here is a picture of the a big bunch a couple weeks before the stalk was taken down by wind. It easily weighed 50lbs and still had months to go before ripe.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Nam Wah bananas for 2023
« on: November 04, 2023, 06:12:14 PM »

This was a mid-size bunch coming from the original pup that I transplanted. I propped the stalk for the last couple weeks since it had a decent lean. The first bananas of the bunch turned yellow last weekend so I harvested them. After seating a few bunches myself, giving some to neighbors, and bringing several into work, Iím down to my last one. Thereís no banana like a properly ripened Namwah.

The 2nd generation of this bunch is massive. Probably 15Ē diameter and 8í tall and still putting out leaves. I counted 21 leaves during the wet season and itís down to 16 now. Hopefully we miss the freeze again this year because itís close to putting out a huge flower. The last one I had this big was blown over by the wind when the bunch was only half size. Iím going to be sure to prop it well this time.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Natural Farming?
« on: October 27, 2023, 08:06:24 PM »
I enjoy Ericís videos. Iím not sure if getting a YouTube following is what he really wants but doing individual plant videos like Pete Kanaris did at first would probably get more interest. Iíd like to pay him a visit one day since I live just north of him in Sebastian (on one of those 1/4 acre lots on septic :'( ). Iíd have code enforcement on me if I went full Florida natural but Iím doing what I can in the side and back yards.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: why can't I lose weight
« on: October 14, 2023, 03:58:01 PM »
Sugar is sugar, no matter where it comes from. Your body also makes it on its own from other things you eat  :P. Fruit is better than pure sugar because it has fiber which helps control how quickly it gets digested.  Excess sugar gets stored in your blood or converted into fat for storage.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: October 08, 2023, 03:47:48 PM »
Itís about 4í tall and I just up potted it to a 25gal earlier this year. I bought it as a seedling from 9waters on Etsy probably in 2017 or 2018. I havenít done that much pruning, just removied lower crossing branches and let it do itís thing.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: October 06, 2023, 07:37:43 PM »
Feasting on red hybrid today

Nothing. Mangoís grow well without much need for anything. I usually cut newly planted trees off of water within 6 months unless itís a really bad drought but I do have wood chips and living mulch/ground cover under them.  Besides compost and worm castings occasionally, they donít get fertilizer.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Freezer recommendations
« on: October 05, 2023, 11:28:59 AM »
Iím interested in this as well. Chest freezers are definitely a more efficient design since the door seal is at the location with the lowest temperature differential to ambient. Do chest freezers have auto defrost nowadays?  Needing to pull everything out every 6-12 months would be a pain.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba - Zone 7 or Colder
« on: September 27, 2023, 12:50:27 PM »
I have several varieties. Iíve left mine in a somewhat protected location outside in 32 degree temps and they were all fine. Maybe a little tip burn on some. Sabara was bulletproof.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: HELP: Topworking 5-ft. Mango Seedling
« on: September 25, 2023, 12:15:18 PM »
Itís too late to lop it off and graft it unless you do the side veneer like Cookie Monster said. If you want to do a cleft draft, you could lop it now (making sure to leave a good number of leaves In the canopy) and hope that it pushes several branches in its final growth flush this year. Then after the first flush next year hardens off, graft into those shoots.

Alternatively, leave it as-is over the winter and then lop it off as low as you want when it starts warming up in spring. Graft it once the first flush hardens off. This would let you get a lower graft and possibly use less scions of thatís a concern for you. You just need one scion to take off on a short stump and youíll have a full mango bush/tree in a couple years.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can a Pickering of this size produce?
« on: September 21, 2023, 09:37:14 PM »
It should be able to hold at least 20-30 fruit next year. You have a nice canopy but the trunk looks a little on the thin side compared to the canopy.

Maybe I got lucky but Iím 1 for 2 on Maha. Iím no expert so thatís around my normal take rate for mangoes.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Forcing mango to branch out
« on: September 17, 2023, 12:48:40 PM »
Iíve tipped new growth thatís already started and Iíve also used my thumb nail to damage/remove the terminal bud when it started swelling. This forces the other buds in that area to start swelling and push.

Bone meal has little nitrogen and high phosphorus. Sulfate of potash gets you the potassium. I mix these and use around my mangoís.  For plants that like some nitrogen, add some blood meal to the mix.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Achacha help
« on: September 02, 2023, 02:13:19 PM »
Iím interested in this as well. I have a lemon drop mangosteen that started getting tip burn and all the new leafs would come out deformed and yellow. This all started after a fairly light application of osmocote.

+1 for Mike

A Tree 4 Me in downtown Sebastian has some mangoís and other interesting tropicals.
Busy Bee is on US 1 between Sebastian and Vero and has a decent mango selection at certain times of the year.
Forum member Veggieman01 is in Vero and has a good selection of potted mangoís and will also sell scions off the trees he has in ground.
Rockledge Gardens has a decent variety of mangoís but they are crazy expensive. $60 for a 3 gal is ridiculous.

Iím another who isnít crazy about PPK. The fruit/sap smell is amazing but the rubbery and somewhat chalky texture (at least on mine) lowers its ranking. Also, my PPK is not vigorous. Itís not on some special rootstock but my tree has been 3 years in the ground from a well-developed 3 gallon and itís only about 4í tall. I get 1-2 growth flushes every year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Pruning Recommendation Needed
« on: August 09, 2023, 05:42:49 AM »
I made my first cut around 24Ē and the tree is an Angie so semi-dwarf. I have to support some of the lower branches to keep the fruits off the ground.  I think itís fine to cut at 24-36Ē for a mango bush but try to keep your lower horizontal branches at least 36Ē. Itís still going to want to grow upward unless you train the branches out (like I did) or let the weight of fruit do it for you.

Thatís usually what happens to fruit trees when they have a year with poor fruit set.

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