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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 24, 2022, 12:45:27 PM »
Hey Sellami,

Thanks for taking the time to research and study these species. Will you be releasing any data about seed storage conditions success/failures? I am curious if you also take accession data on the location of these species?  I think it would benefit all of us if the locations of species could be disclosed. GPS locations and accession information is an imperative part of conservation that is widely used in Botanical Gardens across the world.

Thanks again

Doubt it honestly. The Trichocereus community had a big issue in South America in recent history where people were geotagging plants in their habitat. Unfortunately this kind of thing attracts poachers big time. Some of the cacti got hacked to oblivion. I could see tagging the state or a major landmark or town nearby but I personally donít think exact locations are a good idea to just put out there. Especially when they see the amounts these go for

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Pitangatuba seeds from USA
« on: February 24, 2022, 12:53:38 AM »
I've gotten a bunch of seeds off this guy

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tissue culture
« on: February 23, 2022, 11:05:45 PM »

There is a forum on tissue culture.  I used to be on it daily.  It is a mixture of professionals and amateurs, mostly amateurs.  It  included grade school students,  It isn't hard if you are willing to take care to sterilise the tissue, the medium, etc. There are shortcuts you can take and shortcuts that will make you fail.
Issues I remember being discussed include how to make substitutions for certain that are hard to get in third world countries, what cheaper chemicals can be substituted for expensive chemicals.  For example you can use sucrose (sugar) from the grocery store rather than guarantied pure sucrose from a chemical supply company  There were many such shortcuts that are fine.  Likewise using baby food jars rather than petri dishes is fine.
The tissue culture culture I did used pre-measured agar and pre-measured MS medium and un-pre-measured sugar. 
I don't remember the prices, but it seems agar, MS medium, and sugar costed about $10 for a liter of basic medium.  A liter of mediom goes a long way. Different species need different hormones to get growth started.  These can get expensive.  But raw coconut milk can substitute for the pure hormones in many species.  Opening a coconut and getting the milk out while keeping it completely sterile can be done.  The species I worked with didn't require more than agar and MS,
Woody species can be very hard to culture, requiring expensive hormones, but in tiny amounts.  I don't know what citrus need but google the question, It will be on line.
I think this is the forum I used to be on. õ resources

appreciate that Walt! This looks like a good forum for me to be on. I get the rough idea of it all, and understand the needs for cleanliness. I used to study Mycology (the study of fungi) so a lot of the techniques overlap with the agar etc. Still learning about the plant hormones but this looks like a good place to learn more. Would like to get a small room of rare fruits going on some shelves, some back up and a way to multiply an expensive cutting or species.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tissue culture
« on: February 23, 2022, 10:08:24 PM »
TC or Tissue Culture. This method while expensive seems to show a lot of promise for plant propagation. Is there anyone out there doing TC? This is a fascinating branches of botany and could prove a useful asset to the rare fruit community. I would love to learn more about it. I know some nurseries/labs do some plants for production but I feel like the citizen scientist could benefit from more discussion around these techniques

Still a relatively good deal, these are hard to find in the US. When they are it was usually at least 12/15$ per seed. I just paid 80$ for a seedling recently

The dang shipping costs are so expensive from Quito. Its like 300$ for a small box. Low amounts helps spread the cost out, you would need to purchase 50 seeds or more for a price break

Hello TFF Members

I am considering importing Giant Mulchi (Shawi - Plinia Inflata) seeds from Ecuador. Is there any interest in these seeds? DHL shipping is expensive for a small box so I was considering adding more seeds to my order to alleviate costs.

Seeds would be around 10$/piece

Please reply directly on the post -- no need to message at this time

Best regards

3-9-2022 Update: Some seeds area available and ready to ship in the US. $10.00 each for TFF members

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sending a plant to USA
« on: February 22, 2022, 05:52:19 PM »
needs a phyto inspection certificate

Fantastic looking annona. Great pics. You said dwarf. If I can make a suggestion, for context, if you can put a coin near the fruit when taking pic next time. What kind of flavor profile?

Ah yes, I can see it is lacking context without a backround or object.

Here is a still from a video of it pulling apart, as you can see fruits are very small. Maybe 1-200grams maximum


Tree picture

By the way, the seeds are fresh, from late 2021. It is a tricky Annona species to germinate. Similar to Corniflora.

Best regards

Out of curiosity did you fruit this in AZ?

Have not fruited, fruit picture is in Brazil. I think it would be a good container fruit tree due to dwarf size

Do you have a photo of the dwarf tree?
How small is a dwarf tree, sounds interesting to me.

Annona Tomentosa reaches height of approximately 0.5-1.5m

Fruits in a relatively short time, 2-4 years. The tree this fruit came from was around 1.2m and only a few years old probably.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 16, 2022, 10:34:15 PM »
I mentioned that some of us work for a living driftwood, was not stereotyping. Im sorry you took offense to that. I was responding to comments comparing seed hunting to other occupations. I do this as a hobby. Iíve spend thousands of dollars trying to participate in preservation, and if someone wants to make it into a business, thatís fine. Iím not here to judge and Iím not here to compete. I just made an observation. I was not asking for discounts, simply stating for annona seeds I thought the price was high, too high for me to care to participate. If someone doesnít like that, fine. Maybe I was out of line. We all feed off of each other here. I respect everyoneís point that thereís no one else offering these, and agree itís hard to put a price on rare offerings. And Seeds Hunter... Iím not hating. I respect the species count for sure, and the fact you are out there finding these selections. We are all here doing mother natureís work. And traveling to find selections is a very high level of dedication. Respect. At the end of the day though, they are all truly mother natureís creations, and I do not believe any man should profit too highly from them. That said I know there are costs associated. I own a business, and I understand. Itís a free market. Good luck selling the seeds.

You asked for an over 50% price reduction and mentioned you would buy at that price, while at the same time mentioning that you don't think seed hunting is actual work.

It's not wrong that you think the price is high, but you could have left the comments out about people working hard for their own money. Just because it is a hobby to you, doesn't mean other people don't work hard.

Glad you figured out cost basis. Try ordering from the other seller at a lower price point, but don't forget about all phyto fees and and shipping and hope your package doesn't get seized

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 16, 2022, 12:48:01 PM »
I work very hard for a living, Iím not sure everyone knows what that means. Searching for seeds is a hobby and a vacation.

You are not the only one here who works, takes on other jobs. To imply others don't work hard seems like a bold (and rude) assumption.

I very much applaud your preservation efforts. I never said anyone is forcing anyone to participate. Itís a public sale forum. No one is asking you to respond to my comments. I understand there is a cost structure. And I understand the challenges. Every single one of us has a cost structure in our own lives. And every single person here makes investments of their own time and money to preserve rare species. My main point is that you cannot try to recoup 100% of your investment every time and say itís in the name of species preservation. We all pay a lot for species preservation. People have to make investments to do this. Difference is some of us work hard to make our money and donít get to travel and eat $1000 fruits. Everyone very much appreciates your efforts for preservation, but if you were willing to spend a little of your own money in the name of preservation and meet us in the middle, or find better ways to make things more affordable, I think more species would actually be preserved. I know it is not easy. I am in no way judging anyone, Iím mostly commenting on how I spend my own money. And Iím sure they were expensive to obtain, but youíre asking 75 euro for 10% of a fruits seeds that you have 3 of. You donít know how they were pollinated, if they come true to type, or if they will even grow well in the US. To some of us thatís not a risk worth taking, and itís not a judgment of you personally more of your business practices. Itís just too much money for many of us growers to actually establish, though the vast majority would love to

Saltwater asked for a discount and says people don't work hard to find seeds, asks poster to spend more of his money to make things agreeable. Does anyone else find this funny?

Justifying charging high prices because you give away 30-40% of the seeds is funny logic to me. Itís as if a vendor says they have to charge $20/lb for a fruit because 40% of the fruit is given away to family or friends. It just doesnít make sense

It should be noted, that many species of fruit and ethnobotanical trees and plants of S. America were preserved, selected, planted, and even bred by natives. I think that is why it is important to recognize this and why Seeds Hunter gives locals materials. Think of it like this if your neighbor had a brand new mango cultivar, and you took scions and sold them, wouldn't you feel obliged to give some profits or materials back to your source?

When buying an expensive plant or seed, businesses treat the purchase as an investment into propagation material. Yes its pricy for a single seed, but you do not need to buy 500 seeds and plant an orchard of it. Many people simply buy one or a few seeds, grow it to fruition and/or propagate it, distribute it later.

Botanical gardens in the modern world have done a great job of acquiring species but have completely dropped the ball when it comes to propagation and distribution.

It's funny, the government used to fund people like David Fairchild to go out into the tropics and find suitable crops to bring back. I like this decentralized approach Seeds Hunter has much better though. We cannot wait for institutions to conserve species as it will be far too late.

I think it could be interesting to get a tissue culture and DNA testing lab going. It might be useful in determining how a species relates to others in the genus or family. The tissue culture lab could be a good way to propagate many copies of a plant species and into peoples hands and get field testing going even quicker on it

I checked 50 lbs of mangos from florida home last summer in a duffel bag

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is eugenia Florida self fertile?
« on: February 01, 2022, 11:47:32 PM »
don't know for sure but im interested and near scottsdale if you ever wanna trade

Hello everyone I have some seeds for Annona Tomentosa - a dwarf Annona species with tasty fruits from Brazil for sale

Seeds are $12.00/pc plus shipping. Limited quantities. Ships from US

Best Regards

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: THIEVES IN THE COMMUNITY
« on: January 30, 2022, 10:19:30 PM »
I see tracking numbers for 2/5 seed purchases so the amount missing is only the remaining 3 seed types, 90$ (35$+35$+20$). A missing 90$ from 3.5 years ago doesn't equate to thievery in my opinion

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New member
« on: January 26, 2022, 12:28:47 PM »
How much variety is there in coconuts?  I have tried them at different maturity levels but I have never heard of different types/cultivars sold by name

Hundreds, maybe thousands if you counted every variation

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I can't taste fruit
« on: January 26, 2022, 12:27:18 PM »
try some miracle berries, I feel like they may be advantageous to regaining taste

do you have any pads right now?


who was it?
Some website not plants related, it's been taken down since.

question was for OP, silly

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Kauai Fruits - January
« on: January 04, 2022, 10:44:38 PM »
Hello everyone I will be visiting Kauai in about 2 weeks. I know some fruits that are in season are mangosteen, rambutan, and some rare durian.

Are there any others popping off right now? Does anyone live in Kauai?

I will of course be visiting farmers markets and some private farms but just wondering if anyone else lives there and has any fruit for sale

If anyone is interested in meeting or sharing fruit or showing their farm I would make it worth their while!

Give thanks, Feel free to message or respond to this post


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: PuertoRicoFoodForest Fresh Fruits
« on: December 18, 2021, 01:25:49 PM »
How were you tricked into paying via friends and family?
Itís unfortunate Tre got shot and killed. You not receiving what you payed for is not happy making, but I think itís the less unfortunate of the 2 events.

Received an email today stating that my online order(placed on their website via debit card) is being refunded to me.

Thats encouraging, hope the same for others

Unfortunately I paid him via paypal and he tricked me into using friends and family... I Tried to open a case with paypal and they denied it. I might try to call paypal and/or maybe my bank will help me. I should have known, when he gave me his cashapp it said it was a known scam profile and blocked me from sending money to it. 450$ wasted

He told me the reason he couldnt accept it as goods and services (paypal and cashapp kept bouncing the payment) was because he was waiting for them to accept his business license. I often do use friends and family if they are of good reputation, as I used to be a seller and understand not wanting to pay additional fees.

Turns out he was creating multiple paypals/cashapps and using fake names and scamming people. They kept shutting down or blocking payments to his profiles but he would make new ones or use proxy accounts of family members.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: PuertoRicoFoodForest Fresh Fruits
« on: December 17, 2021, 10:42:23 PM »
Received an email today stating that my online order(placed on their website via debit card) is being refunded to me.

Thats encouraging, hope the same for others

Unfortunately I paid him via paypal and he tricked me into using friends and family... I Tried to open a case with paypal and they denied it. I might try to call paypal and/or maybe my bank will help me. I should have known, when he gave me his cashapp it said it was a known scam profile and blocked me from sending money to it. 450$ wasted

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