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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: looking for annona spinescens seedlings or seeds
« on: February 18, 2022, 12:38:22 PM »
I have yet to germinate an annona seed in anything other than peat moss
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Driftwood- traveling the world and finding fruit might be a business. I work with my hands for a living. There’s no comparison. I’m not degrading anyone. Doesn’t change my feelings that trying to recoup $2800 off 3 fruits is a lot of money. Maybe it costs $2800 to travel to find the 3 fruits. Maybe that’s a fair price to pay for the amount of seeds offered, and it’s justified by how rare they are. And maybe it was very difficult. But there’s no way it took the time or effort it takes me, and many other people to make $2800. Also, I was commenting directly to a prior response. I agree the work is important. And yes rare seeds in general are expensive. It’s a choice to set these prices though and I still think it’s expecting alot for people to cover that much of the expeditions. That being said, I realize that it’s a lot to guarantee anything, and there’s a cost to that, so respect. Also, I wished him luck with the sales. And I genuinely mean it
So we gotta pay for the expeditions? And how do we even know what the seeds will do when they mature? It’s too expensive for most to even try to find out. It’s not budwood we’re talking about here, it’s shots in the dark. In my opinion this forum exists as a means for mostly serious growers to buy/sell/trade and share info. I try to look at every post when possible. If it’s clogging up the BST board, I’m going to comment if I think the price is outrageous. Also I don’t think charging astronomical prices is the way to truly preserve a species. Everyone is welcome to create a website and try to draw traffic to it. If you post on here you’re going to draw comments. Charging 75 euro for 4 seeds of a fruit with tons of seeds is just outrageous and a waste of most people’s time to read the post. And really limits growing “giant” salzmanii to only a few wealthy growers. Even if I can afford it, I’m not paying for someone else to go traverse the world and get $1000 worth seeds off one fruit. I work very hard for a living, I’m not sure everyone knows what that means. Searching for seeds is a hobby and a vacation. Also we’re dealing with nature and there’s no type of guarantee on anything. I do not doubt the dedication at all. It’s seeds hunters choice to get it in the hands of people or not. If you truly cared about preserving species though you wouldn’t charge so much.
with all my respect mate I think no one asked anyone to pay for anything here! we started from scratch knowing we will be facing a lot of challenges and a lot of new and different situations and we went for it adapting with the situation at any point of the time. we have a cost structure and a social structure that we need to be sustaining on Monthly basis to keep our work going and preserve as much species as we can reach!no one is forced to be a part of it! nature is being destroyed on daily basis and if today it's still possible to find some species in few years with the actual destruction pace part of these species will go extinct from the wild. we have made a lot of prices better and we are working on improving them to make them all available at affordable prices for everyone though it takes time. charging astronomical prices is of course not the way to preserve specie , though this is true in which conditions mate ? there are a lot of details that goes into pricing! it'S always easy to judge! though there are expeditions costs, cleaning and selection process and treatment of seeds for storage. our seeds after the cleaning process goes through different stages of selection and goes through many kinds of tests until they are ready for storage and to offer!
we offer follow up and we haven't let any customer down who told us he didn't get a germination for any specie! we always gladly sent new seeds and offered follow up until specie is established! we guarantee delivery and guarantee quality and that also has its costs. logistic also has a high cost structure and so on.. we are establishing all species and cultivars with the aim of propagation and to make them all affordable and accessible for anyone.. though the process takes time.. and while working on getting there we will keep doing our best to keep our social structure and keep this thing going! 30 to 40 percent of our seeds are always shared with natives and serious growers in Brazil before any of these gets offered ! our friends and partners around the globe know who we truly are, if we really care about preservation , and supports us in what we do! we are happy to share seeds, trade seeds and we have traded with hundreds of people without any money included! I believe if people asked for trade or found a better way to interact with people instead of judging them , life would have been way better for both parts!
Giant gecko the other seller is not shipping from usa
Luc's garcinia ( variety Pumpkin ) $for $40 ea
2 Imbe for $24
2 Chupa Chupa for $24
Bilimbi for $10ea
Garcinia sp lindero $25 sold
Cambuca $40
Garcinia sp lindero $24 sold
Yellow jaboticaba $14ea
Pitomba for $12 ea
Luc's for $55
Garcinia macrophilia for $60 sold
Superior Garcinia intermedia for $40 sold
Luc's for $55
Giant mulchi for $75 sold
Giant mulchi for $40 sold
Shipping for 1 or 2 plants are $16
Usa only
Your peat sounds to wet I think they might rot.
If you have
#1 Add Vermiculite to soak up excess water
(dry sand with no salt or even larger (silica)
pavers sand rinsed in bucket since in Florida )
(or add perlite to create air )
(or if you do not have those add more peat and make sure the soil is not to wet
If you squeeze the peat in bag , and water comes wringing out of it not good
I like to before starting seeds to soak for 24 hours in plain water (or even 48)
I've used Hot water a lot actually (changing it when it cools to hot)
you can also add air to the bag to create humidity
honestly I'd rather use a terrarium (sealed shut, but let the seeds breath after sprouting leaves every week
(Annonaceae species for instance not bean let those breath more often at least for me, and same with persimmon)
(if yuo see little flying knat s
keep root maggots off people use boiled marigold tea to kill the larvae (natural insecticide
(I forgot how to spell name but it's spelled pyrethrin)
I like what gone tropo says about seeds out doors
it is cold in Florida now though
(So I cannot comment on your species with personal experience with the cold out doors in Florida , )
NOTE if using a humidity dome
That is a controlled environment
growing out doors , and that is different keep that in mind
Bad bacteria can grow fast in a humidity dome !!!!
Out doors changes things , and they could grow great, but
Inside keep in mind if you use out door soil screen out any large half chucks of half decayed wood.
This should prevent Hydrogen Sulfide 9or rotten egg smell anaerobic
(no oxygen to seeds in bag, but keep in mind hydrogen sulfide acts different out doors with plants, (in nature)
but inside controlled environment will suffocate seeds)
(, NOTE half decayed wood in out door soil is bad (in bag) except I do like pine bark bought in the store even if not fresh )
Also NOTE cherimoya here is expensive here I have had seeds in a bag a long while ,
but it should not be soaking they will rot .
you should at least for the time being Add something to soak up all the excess water
Better to have them grow slow then rot fast
So to over complicate things here (never a bag idea to get a dollar store spray bottle and just mist your medium )
you did say damp peat , but at least me personally if only peat is used I want it some what crumply
(like the consistency of moist oreo cookies mist every now and again (best I can explain )
A little drawn out explanation , and should of made it simplified
Without seeing a picture of the damp peat it is hard to know if too wet though (sorry, but I'm taking caution)