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Your peat sounds to wet I think they might rot.
If you have
#1 Add Vermiculite to soak up excess water
(dry sand with no salt or even larger (silica)
 pavers sand rinsed in bucket since in Florida )
 (or add perlite to create air )

(or if you do not have those add more peat and make sure the soil is not to wet


 If you squeeze the peat in bag , and water comes wringing out of it not good


I like to before starting seeds to soak for 24 hours in plain water (or even 48)
 I've used Hot water a lot actually (changing it when it cools to hot)

you can also add air to the bag to create humidity
honestly I'd rather use a terrarium (sealed shut, but let the seeds breath after sprouting leaves every week
(Annonaceae  species for instance  not bean let those breath more often at least for me, and same with persimmon)

(if yuo see little flying knat s
keep root maggots off people use boiled marigold tea  to kill the larvae (natural insecticide
(I forgot how to spell  name but it's spelled  pyrethrin)

I like what gone tropo says about seeds out doors
it is cold in Florida now though
(So I cannot comment on your species with personal experience  with the cold out doors in Florida , )

NOTE if using a humidity dome
That is a controlled environment
growing out doors , and that is different keep that in mind
Bad bacteria can grow fast in a humidity dome !!!!

Out doors changes things , and they could grow great, but
Inside keep in mind if you use out door soil screen out any large half chucks of half decayed wood.
This should prevent Hydrogen Sulfide 9or rotten egg smell anaerobic
 (no oxygen to seeds in bag, but keep in mind hydrogen sulfide acts different out doors with plants, (in nature)
 but inside controlled environment will suffocate seeds)

(,  NOTE half decayed wood in out door soil  is bad (in bag) except I do like pine bark bought in the store even if not fresh )
Also NOTE cherimoya here is expensive here I have had seeds in a bag a long while ,
but it should not be soaking they will rot .

you should at least for the time being Add something to soak up all the excess water
Better to have them grow slow then rot fast

So to over complicate things here  (never a bag idea to  get a dollar store spray bottle and just mist your medium )
you did say damp peat , but at least me personally if only peat is used I  want it some what crumply
(like the consistency of moist oreo cookies mist every now and again (best I can explain )
A little drawn out explanation , and should of made it simplified

Without seeing a picture of the damp peat it is hard to know if too wet though (sorry, but I'm taking caution)

Thank you! the peat is definitely too wet, im going to wring out all the extra water

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I have, no germination, with my soil that's a great way to feed all my seeds to worms and grubs or just have them rot, plenty of seeds haven't germinated so far. I am unsure and want to not waste my money experimenting, I still haven't found what works best for me

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Impatient with Annona hybrid seeds, need tips
« on: January 31, 2022, 07:30:32 PM »
I currently have Temoylata, Lisa Atemoya, and Cherimoya in damp peat moss in a Ziploc bag on a heat mat. These seeds were treated with GA3 500 for a few hours, it still wasn't enough for them to absorb a good amount of water if any at all they have all absorbed water while in the peart moss and no longer float. I saw testa rupture on one of the Lisa seeds and thought I was in the clear for them to mature soon.

I have only germinated one Annona seed since I started this hobby 2 months ago. so far I've had over 20 Annona seeds that have not germinated in a month, mostly sugar apple and soursop.

I am worried that I will leave these in the Ziploc bags and they will just never be germinated because they rotted or just don't as not every seed from fruit is viable.

I see all these posts about people getting seeds going in a week or two. How can I make sure I get germination and know that they wont rot or die or something. Annona seeds are painful to work with.

should I just ignore the bags on the heat mat for another 7 days?

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I am not sure about the crosses but the Temoylata is Ruby Ong

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gibberelic Acid for Annona
« on: January 25, 2022, 08:39:13 AM »
I have a silly little experiment I'm conducting...with germinating illama seeds....

I've heard it's best to let them sit out for a few months before planting....I think around 6 months or more is recommended....

but i took some fresh seeds....and soaked them in Coca-Cola (Mexican) for about 14 hours....i made sure they were completely submerged, because they wanted to float.

after they soaked in the coke, I noticed there was a slight discoloration (brown stain) on some of the seeds....

after soaking, I immediately planted them.

It would be interesting if somehow the Coke's ingredients (mainly phosphoric acid) helped breakdown the seed coat, and increased germination rate.

updates?

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I've recently acquired some Temoylata and Lisa Pride seeds from a great guy, RyanScions. The temoylata are small but hard while the Lisa Prides are larger, rounder, and thicker than soursop seeds. How would I go about germinating these seeds? Please look at my experiment plan and give advice where ever necessary, ex. should I soak them longer? (Yes/No) , etc

Ga3 tests
I plan to do these tests. All seeds are currently soaking in these mixtures 5 seeds of each,
3 of each seed- 100ppm of Gibberellic Acid Group- soaked for 22 hours
3 of each seed- 300PPM of Gibberellic Acid Group- soaked for 22 hours
And another group with a few drops of 100ppm Gibberellic Acid with 1 of each seed in Perlite and pumice ( will dry out quickly in south FL heat, no need to remove, I think the acid concentration is also too low to harm the seeds)

After they finish soaking today I plan on removing the seeds, grouping them to them back together ( all temoylatas and Lisa Prides separated), and putting them in a Ziploc bag with peat moss outside) ( I've only ever germinated Annona with peat moss)


I appreciate you reading, Thanks for your time and Help.

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