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that orange annona is spinescens.

 Its not spinescens for sure. Im growing spinescens and the leaf structure and growth habit is different.

Isnít it a smaller tree also? Dwarf?

Seeds taken by customs, first batch earlier this year came in fine. Whatís up with that

No shipping for the smaller plants?💔

Hello: you have to be careful about two things: first, it is a very rare species, originally obtained from Helton by a collector from my country, then I received a plant, I had fruits after a few years because it took a long time to produce. Be careful because it grows very very fast, it gets out of control in creeper mode and climbs all the trees in your garden! It is not for small spaces.

Secondly, it is not known if the fruit does not have certain toxic components, according to Helton there are many nutritional studies on the matter, but a friend of mine says that he got poisoned, so you have to be careful. It leaves my lips itchy, so it may be true about its toxicity.

I donít want any leaves or anything to end up making their dogs sick, considering all parts of theobroma affect them

Ahh I see, thank you

Will you guys do another order next year? Gotta give my self time to prepare to take care of them as I hear theyíre hard to grow

Will you ever have more of these?

Has anyone elseís seeds ben. Through multiple different facilities in the past month? As in over 8, itís like theyíre traveling everywhere in fl, right beside me, then to Miami, then back to me, etc etc

Tropical Fruit Discussion / ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
« on: September 03, 2022, 04:13:42 AM »

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / LF eugenia klotzschiana
« on: August 28, 2022, 10:51:16 PM »
Where can I get eugenia klotzschiana seeds or seedlings?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What's your favorite fruiting shrub?
« on: August 27, 2022, 12:19:04 PM »
Miracle fruit is good
Lots of psidiums potentially
And many others

I have myrtoides, still trying to figure out how it taste, do you know?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / What's your favorite fruiting shrub?
« on: August 25, 2022, 12:06:21 AM »
Broadening my search for ďfruit treesĒ that grow well in pots, Iím looking for uncommon/ rare fruiting shrubs, so far the only fruiting shrub (or tree that can be grown as a shrub) I have is Psidium myrtoides(supposedly sweet)

I went ahead and planted every seedling under the soap tasting citrus tree, wish I came here and saw these comments, thanks for your input guys, but my seedlings are around 5 months old, Iím not sure if thatís old enough to graft to a larger tree?

Yeah, Iím gonna keep it in small pots for few years and forget about it, hopefully in the next few years I stumble across it and it has flowers or something. Other than annonas, I think Iím gonna scrap my seedlings like lychee and sapodilla, and just buy grafted ones.

Blood orange, orange, mandarin and lemon. I grew out seedlings for these in hopes of one day grafting branches of them to another mature (what seems to be a seedling) citrus that I have in ground at home. The fruit it makes taste like soap, so instead of cutting it down and wasting rootstock I was thinking I could graft to, then I found ought citrus grafting is ďhardĒ so Iím not sure what to do now other than discard all my seedlings, chop the tree down and buy grafted trees.

I plan to keep it in a pot, but becuase it takes so many years (which I canít remember) to bear fruit, Iíve been neglecting it and keeping it in a small pot. I want a jaboticaba but Iím not sure which are the best tasting, fastest fruiting, and grow well in pots

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Atemoya pollinated by rollina?
« on: August 18, 2022, 10:54:19 AM »
Has anyone ever heard of this cross taking place?

Is the purple flesh and purple skin one the same thing?

Annona salzmanii


Sorry if this shouldnít be discussed here, I wonít name anyone, I donít want to start any problems. To break this down in the simplest way possible, Bought a plant from a seller here, seller ships plant with bamboo stick in pot, bamboo stick literally churns up the root system of the plant in shipping, plant dies 7 days later, before plant died asked seller for advice to save it, followed sellers advice, plant obviously still died. Seller insist I send him the plant back to get my refund, I say sure, but itís dead already. He asked if I used fertilizer (why would I use fertilizer on a rare tree seedling?) I say no, I did nothing to the plant. He says heís gonna ďtest the soilĒ.

 He sends me instructions to get a return slip. No return slip link on my PayPal activity page for the money I sent. Decided to dispute with PayPal. I tell him I did. He sends me my money back, ask me to never buy from his store again, then blocks me, after that he unblocks to tell me I killed the tree then blamed it on the bamboo stake, and then insists that I added fertilizer to the pot and killed the plant (which I didnít) ( and whoís stopping him from adding fertilizer to the pot when I ship him the plant and he just, you know, lies about it? Itís a lose lose for me)

I had firmly agreed to return the plant, yet he states I didnít want to return the plant, (which explains why I supposedly added fertilizer to a tiny pot with a tiny rare SEEDLING that is extremely sensitive for god knows what reason?)

Funny enough, he tells me good luck etc etc and if I had a problem on the first day I should said something instead of a week later. Itís funny considering I did say something and he left me on read FOUR WHOLE DAYS.

Now tell me, based on what youíve read. Am I just some bad person, or did I have valid reasons for wanting my refund? I have visual proof, and screenshots of every step of our conversations. Every single message, the dates, everything. Iíve learned to keep track of stuff like that from sellers whoíd act like certain things werenít said etc.

I donít want any bad blood from anyone, I got a damaged product, I got my money back. There no issue. What I donít want is a tarnished reputation and ending up being blacklisted by other sellers because Iím the guy who ďkills his trees and blamed the sellerĒ Iíd rather not have that. Thank you for reading.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Creating a canopies for my trees
« on: July 10, 2022, 08:37:49 PM »
Iíve been experimenting pruning leaves off my annonas to for them to spring back and create new branch leads, what do you guys think about these 3? Iím not sure what canopies are the best for each annona, or any plant

Ilama, Lisa seedling and sugar apple(squamosa)

Iím making a list of all the plants I want to grow in pots, and itís looking hefty. I realize itís mostly just trees, so Iíd like a list of good shrub fruits that are just haves in Florida

This is the list so far of plants I want but havenít acquired yet


Annona Neosalicifolia

Duguetia stenatha

Manilkara Bella

Duguetia sp maranjo yellow

Annona monticola

Annona deceptrix

Duguetia lanceolata

Annona ubatubenensis

Annona warmigiana

Annona dolapretela

Annona sylvatica

Annona Crassiflora

Lemon drop mangosteen


Jamaican strawberry tree

Miracle fruit

Solanum pachyandrum

Peanut butter fruit

Blackberry jam fruit

Ice cream bean



Eugenia parrisii


Honey dew melon




Strawberry guava

Lemon guava

Psidium sp longipetiolatum

Psidium sartoranum

In annona self fertility is a matter of humidity, it's been very humid lately so the pistil hasn't dried before pollen reached dehiscence therefore self pollination happens.

Interesting, I always wondered why one flower had to die for another to be pollinated, it seems thatís not true, and only used to speed up the process when hand pollinating

If not, I hope itís an annona, I had Cornifolia seeds mixed up in potting mix for a few of these because I thought the seeds died, or maybe itís another psidium that just germinated, who knows. Gonna wait it out and see

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