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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Do you guys propagate during the winter? If so, how?
« on: November 28, 2023, 12:01:13 PM »
Humidity Dome, LED grow lights, temp controlled heatmat. That is usually the standard setup. I set my heatmat at 75f to 78f.

Run grow lights half the day. I do seeds and cuttings.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bactris genus cold tolerance
« on: November 21, 2023, 01:30:51 AM »
Bactris gasipaes survived around 32f to 34f for about 4 hours at a time multiple times in the past 7 years. Did not see any bad dieback.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Psidium striatulum... anyone growing this rare Psidium?
« on: November 05, 2023, 10:07:50 PM »
Quote from: K-Rimes on November 05, 2023, 09:22:02 PM
Quote from: nullzero on November 05, 2023, 08:45:26 PM
Anyone have some seeds for sale or trade of Psidium striatulum I'm looking. I had this species in the past and lost it due to planting in a spot which got flooded for 2 weeks.

Give me a couple weeks and I can send some fruit.

Thanks, just keep in touch with me if there is anything you want to trade.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Psidium striatulum... anyone growing this rare Psidium?
« on: November 05, 2023, 08:45:26 PM »
Anyone have some seeds for sale or trade of Psidium striatulum I'm looking. I had this species in the past and lost it due to planting in a spot which got flooded for 2 weeks.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wangoes and Wild Mangoes (Mempalam, Pentadra, Zeylanica, Tenom, Laurina..) Miami
« on: October 29, 2023, 05:31:33 PM »
Great guy and tropical fruit enthusiast. I got a Wango this weekend. It looked beautiful and very healthy.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PGA (Psidium Growers Association) - thread all about psidiums!
« on: October 23, 2023, 11:20:35 PM »
Not much bigger, you may have luck thinning out the crop.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Why Pitaya (organ pipe cactus fruit) is so expensive
« on: October 15, 2023, 11:27:34 PM »
It is great to see a update photo. You are taking care of them nicely. You may get fruit before me. My largest on its own roots is 3ft tall. I had some seedlings in clay pots on autopilot in FL.

Over here in CA I have more coastal influence and my inground seedlings are in part sun. I may reconfigure my plantings to see if I can get them in a full sun spot to speed up.

What type of low temps have your plants encountered?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rapid Passion Fruit Juicing - Need help
« on: October 07, 2023, 06:11:40 PM »
I will do, it's still green right now. Not even sure what stage I use the fruit at.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rapid Passion Fruit Juicing - Need help
« on: October 06, 2023, 10:46:54 PM »
Yes so far this is the best seedling I have grown. I am about to harvest Passiflora maliformis for first time, so I will see how it rates compared to edulis.

I am going to probably cull or cut back and graft the other seedlings with the superior yellow one.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rapid Passion Fruit Juicing - Need help
« on: October 06, 2023, 08:03:50 PM »
Quote from: Galatians522 on October 06, 2023, 06:40:16 PM
Have either of you tested these to see if they are self fertile?

I can tell you this I have 3 vines that are flowering from the same batch of seeds.

#1 will not set fruit on its own and is redish in color, I have to hand pollinate.

#2 seems to set fruit on its own redish fruit with bright orange pulp, however not every flower sets it may need some cross pollination. Also fruit like 60% on average with pulp.

#3 Yellow fruit that sets abundance, seems like every flower sets. Pulp +90%.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rapid Passion Fruit Juicing - Need help
« on: October 06, 2023, 05:07:05 PM »
Quote from: roblack on October 06, 2023, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: SHV on October 06, 2023, 02:14:19 PM
Quote from: roblack on October 06, 2023, 12:16:31 PM
Excellent! So, each jar is like 33 fruits? I would hide that in the downstair fridge!

I actually like to keep pure pf juice, and also some frozen pulp/juice/seeds. The seeds have a lot of flavor; have found uses for them, such as providing some nice crunch when added to jerky. Seeds reportedly are nutrient rich as well (Vit A and C, mag, pot).

Each jar is the equivalent of 33lbs of fruit!  I too enjoy eating the seeds.  I still have many more passion fruit that I eat as snacks when I find them on the ground.  Always keep a blade handy for on the go fruit consumption.

Well worth the work, that stuff is the best. Enjoy =)

NZ, I have a similar type of large Brazilian passiflora from seed that is very good, big, and yellow. I call it Big Bird.

Roblack,

Yeah the Brazilian Large Yellow type of Passiflora edulis genetics seem to be popular in Florida.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rapid Passion Fruit Juicing - Need help
« on: October 06, 2023, 01:46:11 PM »
I have a really high quality passion fruit I grew from seed. I am going to start propagating it. It is a yellow type selected from seedlings from a unknown Brazilian commercial variety. The pulp is filled +90% to the top of the fruit. Fruit size is medium to large, production is good, and flavor is better then most types i have tried.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rapid Passion Fruit Juicing - Need help
« on: October 04, 2023, 11:31:31 PM »
Use a shop vac with no filter, place plastic bag inside. Make sure the shop vac tubing and nozzle is not used on other stuff.

I would just use a paper cutter for cutting the tops. Then suck out the pulp with the vac.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Named Java plum varieties
« on: October 01, 2023, 07:34:18 PM »
The tree that Fruit and Spice park had was a good purple/white variety with low astringency and sweet flavor. Unfortunately the tree got felled during a hurricane and removed a few years back. I would check to see if anyone was able to get offspring from that tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: trees that suffer injury below 45F / 7C?
« on: September 20, 2023, 09:27:38 AM »
Malay apple is more sensitive then rose apple. I had a container 3 year old Malay apple it slowed down and struggled with 40s and died by the end of winter. It never got colder then 40F really that winter.

Rose apple seedling no issues. Pouteria family Lucuma and Ross sapote no issues but Abiu dies in low 40s.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: trees that suffer injury below 45F / 7C?
« on: September 20, 2023, 01:15:06 AM »
I have found Cacao, Abiu, and Rambutan all pretty sensitive to 40s.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Why Pitaya (organ pipe cactus fruit) is so expensive
« on: September 18, 2023, 08:52:04 PM »
Quote from: Bush2Beach on September 18, 2023, 02:32:48 PM

I gave away all the seedling from that batch 5 years ago.
Glacially slow in Santa Cruz. They were still 2-3" tall after 3 years.
Thanks for bringing them in though, only time I have seen them available.


Quote from: nullzero on September 18, 2023, 02:49:32 AM
You have to taste fresh S. queretaroensis to see why. The poor shelf life, limited season between May to July depending on year, and potential for crop failure is high. The monsoon rains coming to soon during the final ripening can ruin crop.

The flavor is more fruity and sweet intensity compared to dragon fruit. The texture is like a dragon fruit mixed with a ripe fig. It's syrupy sweet with intense berry flavors. Some can taste like raspberry jam. This was my experience with them at least from the plants producing in Southern Zacatecas.

This cactus is worth the trouble to grow. I can see potential in interior warm areas 9B or higher of Southern CA, Southern Nevada, and Southern Arizona.

It can take a while to fruit from seed 7 years or more. Mature cuttings are hard to source. I am 5 years in from ones grown from seeds.

My largest surviving is a seedling from a large orange fruit which was the sweetest of the fruits I tried. I am hoping in the next 2 years I can get it to flower.

I would try grafting to dragon fruit, Cereus sp., or Echinopsis sp. To see how it would respond. Currently I have about 10 seedlings left between CA and FL. They are slow here in southern CA only putting on good growth during July and August. In Florida puts on nice growth from May to October.

It likes temps in the 90s with full sun and nights in the 80s to really grow fast. Does not mind humidity as long as the root zone is not sitting in water for long and it's warm above 70f.

Central and Northen coastal CA does not have enough heat units to really push the plants. Fresno would be the northern range possibly protected to get a chance at a crop.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Why Pitaya (organ pipe cactus fruit) is so expensive
« on: September 18, 2023, 02:49:32 AM »
You have to taste fresh S. queretaroensis to see why. The poor shelf life, limited season between May to July depending on year, and potential for crop failure is high. The monsoon rains coming to soon during the final ripening can ruin crop.

The flavor is more fruity and sweet intensity compared to dragon fruit. The texture is like a dragon fruit mixed with a ripe fig. It's syrupy sweet with intense berry flavors. Some can taste like raspberry jam. This was my experience with them at least from the plants producing in Southern Zacatecas.

This cactus is worth the trouble to grow. I can see potential in interior warm areas 9B or higher of Southern CA, Southern Nevada, and Southern Arizona.

It can take a while to fruit from seed 7 years or more. Mature cuttings are hard to source. I am 5 years in from ones grown from seeds.

My largest surviving is a seedling from a large orange fruit which was the sweetest of the fruits I tried. I am hoping in the next 2 years I can get it to flower.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Future/Current Space Considerations for Figs and Citrus in my SoCal Yard
« on: September 11, 2023, 09:21:56 PM »
Keep Figs managed in containers. I made mistake of letting 3 fig trees gain mass and be planted in ground. I would say way to go is manage several fig trees in containers and bag all the Figs.

As for citrus, I would go with the same approach. Grow in containers and place netting over the trees to prevent pest infestation.

The other option is finding replacements for the fruits. I feel that passiflora does well with a acidic flavor that mixes well for drinks and dishes which call for citrus. Also other unique replacements like Corryocactus brevistylus which is reportedly has lemon like flavor. Kei apple have citrus like flavors as well.

As for resistant black fig fly type cultivars. I noticed that CdA and Dk Jumbo got hit particularly hard. While Lebanase Red and Sangue Dolce not as much. It may have to do with the larger Figs emitting more scent and being a better target for the fly.

Anyway I am going to cut back hard the inground fig trees. I have nearby Ross sapote and chestnut that would love to get more sun.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Exotica Nursery's Lemon Guava Selections (Psidium cattleianum lucidum)
« on: September 06, 2023, 03:32:03 PM »
Most of Exoticas inventory like others have said was bought out the last 5 years. I was down there a little over a month ago, and the only thing I thought was an ok price was a macadamia nut rooted cutting in a 5 gal I got for $70.

I bought a Diamond guava seedling about 4 years back, after tasting one of the mature Diamond guava seedlings on a past visit. The trees were gone which I tasted the fruit from, so I had to asked Steve if he had anymore. He did have some smaller 1 gal seedlings of Diamond guava, so I took a chance and grew it out. The tree fruited last year and the guava was very large with great flavor and a small central seed cavity (so I would say I got fairly lucky with the offspring). The other guava seedling which I got he called it waimea red guava. This fruited last year as well, however the fruit was not red and the flavor was ok. I would rate this guava like a B-, its a dwarf stature with good production and decent flavor so I will keep it for now. The Diamond guava seedling I would rate as a solid A.

I would not recommend going there unless you want grafted mango or a common grafted annona (gefner etc.). Everything else is mostly seedlings with variable quality, the loquat seedling may be worth it depending what mother tree they are from. The guava seedlings are a random chance you probably get a decent tree at least. You are going to get better selection of trees with ad hoc local collectors, etsy/ebay sellers, and online nurseries. The tropical fruit scene is booming in South Florida with small fruit farms and nurseries. California it seems to have stagnated with nurseries.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Companion planting container fruit trees
« on: September 04, 2023, 03:26:25 PM »
Depends what is growing as a companion. I like using annual legumes and weedy type of vegetables. Purslane, dandelion, basil, perilla, etc.

I have not noticed any negative effects doing this. I try to fertilize at least every few weeks. The companion plants help add soil stabilization so less runoff of water and fertilizer.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sea grape/ coccoloba uvifera
« on: September 03, 2023, 12:45:16 PM »
Seagrape season is starting now into November. I would check around locally to see if you can find some ripe fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: MarktLee's wonderful rare fruit tree collection
« on: August 31, 2023, 09:26:03 PM »
Mark has a beautiful garden with lots of producing plants.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Salt water "tolerance" in Mangoes?
« on: August 31, 2023, 02:46:51 PM »
I have a seedling mango selection which was growing right next to a brackish canal in Florida. I have several seedling growing out now. I am far away from salty water but figured it would be good genetics for rootstock.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cone-tainers question
« on: August 26, 2023, 02:25:46 PM »
I like deep treepots 4"x14", work well for at least the first year. After that I plant in ground or a 10 gal tall fabric container.

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