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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cone-tainers question
« on: August 26, 2023, 02:25:46 PM »
I like deep treepots 4"x14", work well for at least the first year. After that I plant in ground or a 10 gal tall fabric container.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chupa Chupa (Quararibea cordata) in Southern California?
« on: August 26, 2023, 02:06:31 AM »
Waste of time in Southern California. You need warm nights and humidity over 60% on average. I would say its northern range is coastal central Florida in micro climate pockets.
My friends tree is close to fruiting in Florida, beautiful tree with HUGE leaves. Not something to plant unless you have the room for it.
My friends tree is close to fruiting in Florida, beautiful tree with HUGE leaves. Not something to plant unless you have the room for it.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What are your favorite, must-have fruit/ nut trees to grow?
« on: August 20, 2023, 06:09:19 PM »
It depends where you live and how much effort involved.
My list would be;
In Florida: Coconuts, Mangoes, Sugar Apples/Atemoyas, and Jackfruit
In California: Avocados, Citrus, Cherimoyas, and Guavas
In a Greenhouse: Citrus, Guavas, and Papaya.
My list would be;
In Florida: Coconuts, Mangoes, Sugar Apples/Atemoyas, and Jackfruit
In California: Avocados, Citrus, Cherimoyas, and Guavas
In a Greenhouse: Citrus, Guavas, and Papaya.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal Tropical Storm Watch
« on: August 19, 2023, 11:10:45 PM »
I think we will see the most flooding and issues in riverside county. Particularly of interest is Banning, CA. It is in a valley between two major mountains and the storm is set to go right through the city. I would think a major flooding event could occur near the washes and seasonal creeks.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal Tropical Storm Watch
« on: August 19, 2023, 03:23:33 PM »
I think coastal areas get just some outer band rain maybe 1 inch or so.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Solanum Species (Mainly close relatives of tomato)
« on: August 18, 2023, 11:47:46 PM »
Solanum opacum is less vigorous then the Solanum nigrum by quite a bit. The flavor is ok it does have some papaya like tastes however it is not even close to as sweet as the Solanum nigrum selection I have. I am not sure if the 2 hybridized but most likely can?
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Solanum Species (Mainly close relatives of tomato)
« on: August 18, 2023, 09:45:09 AM »
Was fairdinkumseeds.com for the source of Solanum opacum.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Solanum Species (Mainly close relatives of tomato)
« on: August 15, 2023, 03:33:01 PM »
Here is a picture of one of my best grow outs of S. peruvianum. This one has great flavor and larger fruit with good production clusters of fruit. The fruit is a medium sized cherry tomato.
I am actively saving seeds, so if there is interested I may be able to share. This is grown out from a batch of Joseph Lofthouse selections of it, via EFN.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Solanum Species (Mainly close relatives of tomato)
« on: August 12, 2023, 03:29:41 AM »
I am growing quite a bit of big hill x wildling offspring, a selection of the only remaining seedling from 2020. It produced large uniform fruits with great flavor and was producing into November with no die back or disease pressure. Now on gen, initial seed was from EFN. I have a bunch of other wildling and a gen 3 selection of Solanum peruvianum. I will post some pictures later.
I also have a superior Solanum nigrum selection I made years back from a park near LAX, large tasty fruit super productive. I observed rats feasting on the fruits and many bug holes on the leaves (Japanese beetles target them heavily, which makes a great trap plant for harvesting beetle fertilizer). These observations helped me select a highly edible fruit with low toxicity when eaten ripe.
I also grow Solanum opacum (green berry), I find the flavor ok on this one but not as good as the Solanum nigrum I have which tastes like blueberry. There is a possibility Solanum opacum could cross with Solanum nigrum, but I have not confirmed yet.
I also have a superior Solanum nigrum selection I made years back from a park near LAX, large tasty fruit super productive. I observed rats feasting on the fruits and many bug holes on the leaves (Japanese beetles target them heavily, which makes a great trap plant for harvesting beetle fertilizer). These observations helped me select a highly edible fruit with low toxicity when eaten ripe.
I also grow Solanum opacum (green berry), I find the flavor ok on this one but not as good as the Solanum nigrum I have which tastes like blueberry. There is a possibility Solanum opacum could cross with Solanum nigrum, but I have not confirmed yet.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I ordered eugenia selloi on Esty
« on: August 11, 2023, 11:34:20 PM »
Best off ordering fresh seeds packed in slightly moisture coir or vermiculite. May have better luck ordering from someone in the States.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where do you guys buy pots?
« on: August 05, 2023, 01:29:35 AM »
I use 247garden.com for fabric pots of all sizes. I also buy treepots and airpots clones off amazon. For cheap plastic pots for vegetable starts etc., I buy from dollartree or 99 cents stores.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 01, 2023, 02:42:54 AM »
S8 has a great flavor, good production, and is self fertile. I am really enjoying the desert king seedling I have.
I like how it holds fruit from November to March and has good production and flavor. The only thing I dislike it's longer stem sections and has longer spines then average.
I have Asunta 3 flowering now. Luckily I saved pollen from a superior fruiting epiphyllum about 7 weeks ago which I pollinated with last night.
I like how it holds fruit from November to March and has good production and flavor. The only thing I dislike it's longer stem sections and has longer spines then average.
I have Asunta 3 flowering now. Luckily I saved pollen from a superior fruiting epiphyllum about 7 weeks ago which I pollinated with last night.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Green gold avocado tree
« on: July 30, 2023, 03:43:35 AM »I will definitely be selling sharwil scions in December, January and maybe early February. Beyond that, the scions are not good because the buds already have got past the point you want them for grafting. I have almost perfect grafting results in mid and late December.
I would be interested in Sharwil scions if you are selling them soon.
I grafted Reed around early July and it took with no issues. I just strip some leaves on the stem and took scion when I started to see swelling with end tip bud starting to push out. I made sure the rootstock was also pushing.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black Fig Fly Protection
« on: July 25, 2023, 08:54:13 PM »
I'm taking out all my in ground trees, they are to hard to protect over 7ft tall. I think only way to manage will be containers bagging everything. BSF has really made it a pain to grow fig trees.
I stopped collecting any more fig varieties. I have tried fly traps, bagging, etc. Bagging seems not fool proof either, the timing of placing the bags and getting to the fig before the scourge does.
I stopped collecting any more fig varieties. I have tried fly traps, bagging, etc. Bagging seems not fool proof either, the timing of placing the bags and getting to the fig before the scourge does.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top 3 mango varieties poll
« on: July 25, 2023, 09:30:31 AM »
I like Kesar a lot, has a great piney sweet flavor.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tape Types for use grafting . . . .
« on: July 21, 2023, 01:16:48 AM »
The 3M black electrical tape works good around the union going over something like buddy tape to hold the graft in place.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: You asked ... I listened! Introducing TFF Search Extension (Google Chrome Only!)
« on: July 15, 2023, 03:16:14 AM »
Very nice will check it out. Thanks for spending time on this.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you grow Marang in Florida?
« on: June 27, 2023, 02:06:00 PM »What marang looks like
What a pedalai leaf looks like (bigger, more intricate design), pedalai can have more basic looking leaves too, depends on the variety but marang leaf structure is generally more simple and smaller than pedalai
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A friend has a 6 year old 25ft Pedalai, Artocarpus sericicarpus in South FL (hoping fruit soon). Friend tried a lot of strains in the past, a Philippines strain that is growing seems to be the most cold hardy. Whatever strains they have in Hawaii hear they are sensitive to the cold. No issues with mid 40s, mature tree may be good down to 32f?
-nullzero
Its a Filipino pedalai, I added in the discussion because Marang has some similarities to Pedalai. Maybe like comparing an Mandarin to a Orange. Also fruitguy has a pedalai and wanted more info about it growing in Florida.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you grow Marang in Florida?
« on: June 25, 2023, 05:36:31 PM »Does that 20ft tree make fruit?
Mine is only 3ft tall right now but it looks to be set for rapid growth. If it grows straight up without branching I guess I could cut it back severely and try to force it to a more open shape
No fruit yet, I believe it's close to 6 years old now. Perhaps this year or next year flowers and fruit? Maybe try creative training. Bend the central leader sideways and use trellis and pruning techniques to keep below 12ft.
You could try cutting off the central leader and make it offshoot could produce shorter internodes.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you grow Marang in Florida?
« on: June 25, 2023, 04:19:02 PM »Anyone know how big these are by the time they flower? I put one in the ground in my greenhouse and it has been really healthy, even through winter. I know they get big but I wonder if it is possible to get fruit from a seedling tree while maintaining <12ft height by pruning. Do these fruit from deep in the canopy like jackfruit?
These are tall forest trees, even the one I seen in Palm Beach County is over 20ft and grows back up there after pruning. It has a tall narrow growth habit, compared with to most jackfruit selections which have wider canopy with less vertical domiance.
This last winter the tree dropped all its leaves, however it has bounced back. I believe the coldest it had was 38f however was the wind chill that really caused it to drop leaves. If your in more marginal zones may be good idea to put pipe insulation around the primary trunk for those frost events.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Okrung Mango tree and seedlings of Okrung.
« on: June 22, 2023, 12:45:10 AM »
I have a okrung seedling, its over 15ft now. No fruits of flowers yet. Seedling is about 10 years old now.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PGA (Psidium Growers Association) - thread all about psidiums!
« on: June 18, 2023, 04:57:18 PM »
I have a producing Psidium robustum, second year fruiting. This year looks to produce much more fruit, maybe like 60 to 100 fruits.
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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: For Sale: Mulberry Cuttings - Taking Advance Orders
« on: June 17, 2023, 06:18:44 PM »
I was able to root red Himalayan exotica. Used clonex in some coir. However I am not sure on % chance.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Finding Land in South FL
« on: May 30, 2023, 11:41:25 PM »Thank you also for this. Definitely another factor to consider when looking at potential properties.I'm actually very interested in Pine Island. Seems like an acre there goes for about 100k. My parents think it's a good place too also. Can always build later.
I'll report back in several months...maybe something can happen! Hope to stop by the island when I'll be down.
Another thing about Pine Island is elevation. Average elevation is 7ft above sea-level which is lower then Miami average at 11ft. Port Saint Lucie has 23ft average for comparison. Of course it is going to be property specific.
No problem, I did the research extensively when I bought a home a while back. Proximity to airports, major metro, crime, infrastructure condition, amount of land, and ability to grow some good tropical fruit crops outside with no protection, and cost of real estate.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Finding Land in South FL
« on: May 30, 2023, 11:29:39 PM »I'm actually very interested in Pine Island. Seems like an acre there goes for about 100k. My parents think it's a good place too also. Can always build later.
I'll report back in several months...maybe something can happen! Hope to stop by the island when I'll be down.
Another thing about Pine Island is elevation. Average elevation is 7ft above sea-level which is lower then Miami average at 11ft. Port Saint Lucie has 23ft average for comparison. Of course it is going to be property specific.
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