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Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« on: June 21, 2015, 12:01:35 PM »
witch finger grape



Cotton candy grape



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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2015, 12:22:15 PM »
What is this? I don't know it...  ???

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2015, 01:10:37 PM »
WOW! Never see it!  :o

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2015, 04:15:31 PM »
Don't think anyone will have the cotton candy for a long time.

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2015, 05:11:50 PM »
On occasion i've seen small seeds in these seedless varieties. Might be enough to propogate if you are savy enough. Lord knows Im not at that level.
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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2015, 09:24:43 PM »
These are unreleased varieties and there's no plan to release them. The breeder just plans to sell it as fruits. Seeds are your best bet.

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2015, 09:43:42 PM »


Actually, you can grow grapes from the stems the grapes are attached to. If you can make it work, they will be true unlike seeds.

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2015, 10:29:14 PM »
I know you can get a plant from a cell. It's easier to do it from meristem because it's already a tiny shoot that's also ready to put out roots if necessary. Are the cells on the stem easy to coax into turning into a new plant?

I can mail stems to EvilFruit if that's an option.

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2015, 01:41:16 AM »
when/where do they sell these fruits in socal markets?

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2015, 09:42:44 AM »


Actually, you can grow grapes from the stems the grapes are attached to. If you can make it work, they will be true unlike seeds.

You mean these ?!

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2015, 10:18:12 AM »

I just tried a cotton Candy grape, if I can remember where....
Too sweet for me.

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2015, 12:21:06 PM »


Actually, you can grow grapes from the stems the grapes are attached to. If you can make it work, they will be true unlike seeds.

You mean these ?!



yep.

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2015, 02:32:28 PM »
That is really cool, I didn't even consider using the stems.. Thanks Starling! :) This is why I joined this forum.. to learn.  I'll race you EvilFruit!  ;D  So is anything recommended when trying this beyond a fresh cut, a little rooting hormone and crossed fingers? 
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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2015, 03:30:55 PM »
Most likely test tubes with sterilized nutrient gel that contains the hormone. You'd need to surface-sterilize the stems too.
I wouldn't expect a high percentage of success (bacterial contaminations, weak/dead grape cells), so do something like 24 tubes to be safe. Look up the recommended hormone and nutrient mix for grapes. There's usually some research paper on these things.

There are probably people here that's done plants from cell culture. Listen to those people when they speak up. I'm only sharing my perspective from edible mushroom culture with some information I read on plant tissue culture.
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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2015, 04:13:11 AM »
I'd be grateful if anyone can/will sell me some cotton candy seeds?

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2015, 10:38:58 AM »
I'd be grateful if anyone can/will sell me some cotton candy seeds?

There are no seeds. I had couple kg this year and last year. Cotton Candy is very clean. No underdeveloped seeds.
But if anyone is confident to try their luck with stems, I can send them just for postage cost. You will probably need to get them by EMS before they dry out. And of course I have to find them first. They appear and disappear rather quickly.

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2015, 02:10:20 PM »
I think they start coming out around the end of July. You can order directly from the grapery if you can't find them locally.

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2015, 02:39:08 PM »
I think they start coming out around the end of July. You can order directly from the grapery if you can't find them locally.

I had cotton candy last week. Unmistakable cotton candy bags with higher price go along. Flavor was off and season suppose to start end of next month only. Very strange.

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2015, 03:04:38 PM »
Is it a patented variety? Seems like the creator doesn't want it to get out there. The grapes are grown here in SoCal.

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2015, 06:21:30 PM »
I know you can get a plant from a cell. It's easier to do it from meristem because it's already a tiny shoot that's also ready to put out roots if necessary. Are the cells on the stem easy to coax into turning into a new plant?

I can mail stems to EvilFruit if that's an option.

I appreciate your offer But i highly doubt it will survive the trip. If you managed to grow CC Grape from a stem, please send me a message.

I'm interested in a few cuttings

Thanks Again
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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2015, 06:31:44 PM »
Well, mystery is solved. I was puzzled about Cotton Candy availability last week (when season only starts in August this year), and not impressive flavor at all compared to last year. Turns out they were grown in Mexico, and flavor is inconsistent from young vines. They are being licensed to grow all over the world. Expect them to see in Latin America, Europe, Australia..
There is even newer variety called "Gum drops", and people prefer them over Cotton Candy!!

http://www.eatlikenoone.com/cotton-candy-grapes-from-mexico.htm
http://www.eatlikenoone.com/what-to-expect-from-grapery-in-2015.htm

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2015, 10:32:42 AM »
CC grapes are available at Trader Joes in San Diego now.

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2015, 12:55:43 PM »


cloning kits are cheaper than one might expect...
kinda neat that anyone can clone a plant now.
i dont have the patience, or space for it though...

https://www.google.com/search?q=plant+tissue+culture%20Cloning%20kit#q=plant+tissue+culture+Cloning+kit&tbm=shop

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Re: Wanted : Cotton candy grape & Witch Finger grape cuttings
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2015, 04:29:52 PM »
The local Sam's Club (Melbourne, FL) had Cotton Candy grapes from Mexico, yesterday (7-12), in 3 LB containers for about $8.
The regular green grapes in 3 LB containers were about $5.

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