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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #250 on: June 04, 2023, 06:39:33 PM »
After a spectacular show of flowers I only have two fruits to show for it. Most the flowers work male.
The sap has what I describe as a green mango smell which I'm my exp means a classic flavor.
So hopefully it's different enough from Edward and will resolve the flower imbalance

I'll report it with flavor in the summer






One survived to maturity
Started turning yellow on the tree.







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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #251 on: June 04, 2023, 07:24:09 PM »
Very cool, skhan. Looking forward to taste review.

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #252 on: June 04, 2023, 11:54:46 PM »
Very awesome!

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #253 on: June 05, 2023, 11:42:10 PM »
Nice looking fruit, please let us know how it tastes!

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #254 on: June 06, 2023, 07:31:12 PM »
After a spectacular show of flowers I only have two fruits to show for it. Most the flowers work male.
The sap has what I describe as a green mango smell which I'm my exp means a classic flavor.
So hopefully it's different enough from Edward and will resolve the flower imbalance

I'll report it with flavor in the summer






One survived to maturity
Started turning yellow on the tree.














We have an Edward on the right and the seedling (what I'm referring to as Canal...simply because it is on a canal bank)

Flavor
So this is solidly in the Classic camp. (maybe classic acid)
It seems I might have left it for one day past its prime since the area near the seed was going a little overripe.

Under the skin is really firm and that area had a slightly more pronounced bitterness than a typical Edward, even had a crunch to it.
Just enough to know that it's there, nothing crazy but in my book, it does deduct some point

Edward has more of a smooth slightly viscous sweet juice where this is more fruity (Both classic in flavor)
When compared Canal was a more exciting flavor due to the addition of acidity. (i can't really tell if it was sweeter since the acidity will throw off the comparison...no brix meter)

No fiber, good seed-to-flesh ratio.

First-year fruiting and flowering, flowered prolifically, fruit set not great

Its right on my canal bank and no disease issues of the fruit, my Edward gets a little anthracnose.

The best way to describe it by means of other mangos is the outer part of the flesh is like an Edward (a day or two before its prime) and the inside is like a Baliey's Marvel

My verdict is I'll give it another two years to see if some of the negatives improve. (shelf life, production)
« Last Edit: June 06, 2023, 07:49:44 PM by skhan »

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #255 on: June 06, 2023, 11:55:38 PM »
Thanks for the update. Itís great that it seems disease resistant so far and the flavor profile sounds promising, especially for a first fruiting. Hopefully the fruit quality will improve even more with some age.

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #256 on: June 07, 2023, 07:30:31 PM »
Thanks for the write-up, skhan. Does it seem like it has uneven ripening (crunchy by skin and overripe by seed)? Or jelly seed? Looking forward to future reviews!

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #257 on: June 19, 2023, 03:54:14 PM »






Decided to pick the three Coconut Cream Seedling Mangos, as they were turning yellow. The stems were nearly completely dry, and what sap there was was clear. Hopefully I didn't pick them too late. We shall see



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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #258 on: June 26, 2023, 06:37:37 PM »
The Coconut Cream seedlings are starting to feel soft, so we decided to cut into one of the three we got this year:



It was too soon.

Flesh felt a little chalky from being underripe. Still, that gave it a little tartness. Did not have a strong sweetness. I detected a tart orange flavor, but my girlfriend did not. Super minimal fibre, comparable to a Pickering. It had that piney Carrie taste, especially by the skin.

I need someone who appreciates this flavor profile to evaluate it if we get a bigger crop next year (Alex, I'm lookin' at you).



The seed in this one is free-floating within the husk. Will see if the seed is mono or poly shortly.



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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #259 on: June 26, 2023, 08:22:33 PM »
No shortage of Indian mango lovers around here.

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #260 on: June 27, 2023, 06:25:07 PM »
Surprised not a mention of  Rosigold or Rosa in the entire thread. Polyembryonic and early season fruit. Why not seedling propagation?

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #261 on: June 28, 2023, 01:00:39 PM »
Can anyone confirm that Bombay is polyembryonic?  I thought is was monoembryobic but this neglected seedling is showing otherwise. This seed was already in a bit of soil when I received it so I never checked it out. 



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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #262 on: June 29, 2023, 12:20:36 AM »
Surprised not a mention of  Rosigold or Rosa in the entire thread. Polyembryonic and early season fruit. Why not seedling propagation?

Not many fans of Rosigold, I guess.

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #263 on: June 29, 2023, 12:51:54 PM »
Coconut Cream seedling seed seems monoembryonic.







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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #264 on: June 29, 2023, 01:15:13 PM »
Coconut Cream seedling seed seems monoembryonic.







I had a few coconut cream fruit from last year that turned out to be poly.

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #265 on: June 29, 2023, 01:23:10 PM »
Yes, Coconut Cream is poly, but this seedling appears to be mono. I'll hopefully know for sure when it sprouts. I have two others to eventually plant, as well.

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #266 on: June 29, 2023, 03:49:29 PM »
Can anyone confirm that Bombay is polyembryonic?  I thought is was monoembryobic but this neglected seedling is showing otherwise. This seed was already in a bit of soil when I received it so I never checked it out. 



Bombay is Monoembryonic from the fruit I sampled.

Fliptop, thanks for the report. Maybe the fruit will be better next year and especially if allowed to ripen a bit more.

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #267 on: June 30, 2023, 04:59:24 PM »
Coconut Cream seedling seed seems monoembryonic.


You need to peel off that thin brow skin to see if it's popy or mono based on the look of the white "brain" structure.

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #268 on: June 30, 2023, 06:21:09 PM »
Thanks, sapote! Have two more to plant soon and will check those, though I'm tempted to dig up the one from the photo now :)

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #269 on: June 30, 2023, 06:28:07 PM »
Iíve had Coconut Cream mangos with poly and mono type seeds. From my recollection, just about every Polyembryonic mango variety Iíve sampled sometimes produce seeds that are mono. I have not determined if these mono type looking seeds are actually clones or if they are a zygotic seedling.

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #270 on: June 30, 2023, 09:25:08 PM »
I disinterred the seed and took off what I could of the brown skin, and this is what I saw:





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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #271 on: July 02, 2023, 01:00:46 PM »
I have tried multiple pina colada & pineapple pleasure on Turpentine as well as on a manila seedling rootstock in my area (San Fernando Valley) the mature grafts die on me, however, not the rootstock. I do not know whats causing it, i guess they are susceptible to infection.

So I'm growing multiple pina colada seedlings which leaves are symmetrical to pina colada.

My seedlings took the winter like a champ.

If anyone in Socal are looking to grow these seedlings, i have them for sale.

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=51596.0

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #272 on: July 02, 2023, 01:13:38 PM »
Can anyone confirm that Bombay is polyembryonic?  I thought is was monoembryobic but this neglected seedling is showing otherwise. This seed was already in a bit of soil when I received it so I never checked it out. 



Bombay is Monoembryonic from the fruit I sampled.

Fliptop, thanks for the report. Maybe the fruit will be better next year and especially if allowed to ripen a bit more.

Simon

The Bombay I had a few years ago was monoembryonic.

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #273 on: July 03, 2023, 12:55:06 AM »
Can anyone confirm that Bombay is polyembryonic?  I thought is was monoembryobic but this neglected seedling is showing otherwise. This seed was already in a bit of soil when I received it so I never checked it out. 



Bombay is Monoembryonic from the fruit I sampled.

Fliptop, thanks for the report. Maybe the fruit will be better next year and especially if allowed to ripen a bit more.

Simon

The Bombay I had a few years ago was monoembryonic.

Thank you both. I may keep this one and approach graft it to an in ground tree since it seemed handle this last winter just fine.

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Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« Reply #274 on: July 11, 2023, 07:04:57 PM »
Well, the seedling Coconut Cream with the Indian profile is polyembryonic . . .



 

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