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Re: Ilama
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2022, 07:02:13 PM »






Some ilama leaf variation among three types
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2022, 09:49:02 PM »
Beautiful!!

I enjoy seeing the variations in the two fruitlets and in the leaves. I like the subtle specks of color on the leaves. Your hard work hand pollinating and growing this species on your farm is definitely showing results! Beautiful photos!

Ilama is one species that is truly diverse, having a wide range of phenotypes... They are fascinating.
I wonder sometimes that the ilamas seen thus far are just a scratch on the surface in comparison to the true extent of the diversity of this species in its native range.

Thank you for sharing the photos.
I look forward to seeing an update...
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Re: Ilama
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2022, 12:39:21 PM »

 

Flavor of cotton candy with melting flesh with pink and white color blend.
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Re: Ilama
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2022, 12:42:00 PM »
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Re: Ilama
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2022, 02:41:32 PM »


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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2022, 10:21:33 PM »


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Re: Ilama
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2022, 10:44:42 PM »






Some ilama leaf variation among three types

Sometimes a narrow leaf can indicate a nutritional imbalance or deficiency.
It would be intrested to have a leaf tissue analasys and see if the shape of the leaf is genetic or due to an issue in this case.

Or it is called Annona diversifolia for a reason :D

The fruit color is amazing! What a beauty!
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Re: Ilama
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2022, 05:23:27 PM »






Some ilama leaf variation among three types

Sometimes a narrow leaf can indicate a nutritional imbalance or deficiency.
It would be intrested to have a leaf tissue analasys and see if the shape of the leaf is genetic or due to an issue in this case.

Or it is called Annona diversifolia for a reason :D

The fruit color is amazing! What a beauty!
Thank you
The narrow leaf is consistent as these are all well fed. The fruit appearance is off as these are crossed with other ilama pollen.








This is the pollen donor and vise versa.






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Re: Ilama
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2022, 01:53:13 PM »
Do you have experience or knowledge of grafting ilama on established cherimoya tree? I have a one and half year old growing in a pot, but would like to graft a scion to the cherimoya. Wondering if it can keep up with growth of other cherimoya branches and die back.

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Re: Ilama
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2022, 02:28:16 PM »
Hey Bob, looks like Ilama trees do well under island climate. Have you tried to cross them with Sugar Apple?
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Re: Ilama
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2022, 06:49:55 PM »
Do you have experience or knowledge of grafting ilama on established cherimoya tree? I have a one and half year old growing in a pot, but would like to graft a scion to the cherimoya. Wondering if it can keep up with growth of other cherimoya branches and die back.

I have no experience grafting ilama to cherimoya.
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Re: Ilama
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2022, 06:53:47 PM »
Hey Bob, looks like Ilama trees do well under island climate. Have you tried to cross them with Sugar Apple?

I use ilama pollens on different squamosas I have. I’m waiting to see how the fruits develop this season or if they will drop off.
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Re: Ilama
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Re: Ilama
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2022, 09:02:58 PM »
Hey Bob, looks like Ilama trees do well under island climate. Have you tried to cross them with Sugar Apple?

I use ilama pollens on different squamosas I have. I’m waiting to see how the fruits develop this season or if they will drop off.

That sounds interesting. I have yet to come across any naturally occurring hybrids in El Salvador and I’ve seen them growing together. It doesn’t mean there aren’t any. Maybe someone on here has successfully produced a hybrid or read reports on verified hybrid of the two? Hope you have something on the flowers to prevent cross pollination if you have pollinators. Keep us updated!

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Re: Ilama
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2022, 01:11:35 PM »


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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2022, 12:42:51 PM »


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Re: Ilama
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2022, 10:17:23 PM »
Nice leaf study.

I never got any viable seedlings of squamosa X diversifolia or of diversifolia X squamosa, but with so many diverent varieties to try, who knows?
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2022, 03:54:28 PM »
Nice leaf study.

I never got any viable seedlings of squamosa X diversifolia or of diversifolia X squamosa, but with so many diverent varieties to try, who knows?
Thank you, Using one ilama seedling tree I have, the ilama pollen on a green squamosa seedling creates deformed fruits with no viable seeds. I’m trying other ilama pollen this  season and so far fruit deformity has not occured on green or red fruit squamosa. We’ll see.
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2022, 11:41:08 AM »


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Re: Ilama
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2022, 01:52:00 PM »
Like a dry paint brush dragged over the petals


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Re: Ilama
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2022, 07:37:12 AM »
I have one question.

When do you harvest ilama??


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Re: Ilama
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2022, 08:46:21 AM »
Like a dry paint brush dragged over the petals


In my location it can be from the end of July to the beginning of October.
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