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Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« on: June 16, 2023, 04:30:08 PM »
FFT graft from last year on taitri is blooming undeveloped green flowers, it's almost summer. Don't think the anthers will release pollen









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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2023, 01:31:42 PM »
I have 3 clones of this FFT

on tai-tri



on poncirus



own roots


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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2023, 01:45:41 PM »
Own roots looks to also have some flower buds developing. This must be the multiple flowering trait at work

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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2023, 09:08:02 AM »
9 month old FF PT
Sidlings are ~10 cm high .

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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2023, 11:20:22 AM »
Do they bloom as quickly in Paris as in the south?
I have never had a flowering plant. Neither as a seedling nor as a graft.

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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2023, 12:04:00 PM »
Very nice illya, is the pollen viable? I might be able to use it fresh if I get more developed blooms. Nagami kumquat has blooms forming so would possibly be able to use it there

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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2023, 02:41:53 PM »
Do they bloom as quickly in Paris as in the south?
I have never had a flowering plant. Neither as a seedling nor as a graft.

Mine did not bloom after one but most after two years. No fruit, however. Never grew much. I have just grafted one on standard Poncirus and it made an underdeveloped flower like the one Victor showed.


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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2023, 04:32:32 PM »
It looks like the anthers are turning yellow on the petal-less flower in the pic. If it releases pollen I will have to save it. Nagami just opened 3 flowers today but I expect more to come soon in the next flush.

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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2023, 01:32:24 PM »
Yes, these flowers have plenty of pollen , also some are fully developed with pistil that is rather unusual for the first flowering of FFPT. Out of 6 seedlings 4 has flowers and possibly one fruit has been formed.
In the past I failed to produce hybrids with this strain that are also  fast flowering.
Even FDXFFPT with  straight thorns that should be definitely  zygotic are not flowering early.
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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2023, 02:48:30 PM »
My graft is producing more developed flowers now, with visible petals. I hope the next set has a stigma so that I can try to pollinate it with kumquat or whatever pollen I tried to store from last season. Even if the fruit doesn't ripen the potential seeds will probably be viable by November frosts.



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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2023, 03:43:46 PM »
Nice! I've never once had a single poncirus bloom for me here in zone 7. : (

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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2023, 03:50:19 PM »
Nice! I've never once had a single poncirus bloom for me here in zone 7. : (

Where in zone 7 are you?

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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2023, 05:43:35 PM »
Second flower had a pistil so I pollinated it. Pulled off the remaining under developed flowers



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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2023, 02:28:16 AM »

Where in zone 7 are you?

North Alabama, up by Madison/Huntsville area. Zone 7b. Last winter it got down to -17f (counting windchill) one night.

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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2023, 10:38:47 AM »

Where in zone 7 are you?

North Alabama, up by Madison/Huntsville area. Zone 7b. Last winter it got down to -17f (counting windchill) one night.

Interesting. They do well in Philadelphia, PA, in a bunch of different conditions. I've seen mature, fruiting specimens in an arid patio, on loam, and on mud.

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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2023, 11:28:14 AM »
My hybrid trees and small poncirus+ are basically in clay and rock/gravel backfill from the retaining wall behind them. I never supplement water either, just when there is a drought.  I have some pure poncirus in better soil around the yard as well. Grows very slowly.

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Re: Fast flowering trifoliate graft
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2023, 10:46:40 PM »
had a tiny bit of yuzu and ichang papeda pollen so brushed both on the FFT pistil
hope this fruit sticks