WTB- passiflora quadrangularis ML (PQML) cuttings --> CLOSED

[sc4001992]

If anyone has the passiflora quadrangularis ML (PQML) growing, I'm interested in buying 2-4 cuttings.

Let me know.

If you want to trade for some P. Decaisneana cuttings (from Hoang) I have a large vine growing.

Thanks.


=> CLOSED, thanks Hoang.

[FloridaManDan]

Kaz,

I have P. quadrangularis growing here and its absolutely booming. Spare rooted cuttings too. What is the "ML" though? I am unfamiliar with this variety and dont see any information online.

[sc4001992]

Dan, yes I have that one also.

The PQML is a special hybrid created by Hoang. He told me it tastes the best of the large fruting passion fruits he grows.

Here's the link from his sales a few years back.

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=45013.msg443847#msg443847

[FloridaManDan]

Ah, seems hes been inactive awhile. Good luck.

Someone help Kaz out!!

[sc4001992]

I'm bumping this post one time to see if anyone has this p quadrangularis growing. Let me know if you have it, even if it's not large enough to take cuttings. Maybe next year you can share a cutting.

I did try to contact Hoang but he is not on been on this forum for a few years now. I remember him telling me there were a few people in SoCal that purchased his cuttings, and they got it to grow.

[JCorte]

Kaz,

I tried growing this a couple different times.  They all ended up dying including the cuttings I grafted.  The Decaisneana from Hoang was much easier to grow.  I have a Quadrangularis and Decaisneana growing right next to each other at the farm to cross pollinate each other and will plant out seeds to try and recreate his hybrid PQML.

Janet

[sc4001992]

Oh what a shame. I thought you would be able to keep it growing. Maybe that is why I haven't heard of anyone here in CA growing Hoang's PQML.

He messaged me 2 years ago telling me he knows a few people in SoCal that were successful with this one. He asked me at that time if I wanted some cuttings from this variety, but I said no since I was trying to graft and get his Decaisneana growing on my purple fruiting vine. I made the wrong choice I guess, should have concentrating on getting his hybrid growing instead. I didn't know there were no one else growing this one.

Maybe he will eventually get back to me and give me a few cuttings of the PQML. Now I will need to keep looking until I find this one to add to my collection.

[sc4001992]

I have some sad news about this PQML, the mother tree is dead. I heard back from Hoang, he said the tree died recently. So, if anyone else has his cuttings growing, you may be the only one with it.

[Pandan]

Sad to hear that, I hope someone grafts it out or makes rooted cuttings.
I too tried to root it as well and wasn't successful but hoped to try again.

[HoangNguyen]

Kaz,

I tried growing this a couple different times.  They all ended up dying including the cuttings I grafted.  The Decaisneana from Hoang was much easier to grow.  I have a Quadrangularis and Decaisneana growing right next to each other at the farm to cross pollinate each other and will plant out seeds to try and recreate his hybrid PQML.

Janet

Hi Janet,

I am surprised that you can grow P. quadrangularis but PQML.  I just logged back to TFF and saw several mails from my inbox.  People asked me to buy PQML.  Unfortunately, the PQML vine was dead like Kaz mentioned in the thread.

When you cross P. quadrangularis x P. decaisneana.  The offsprings have several varieties from P. alata (2 petiole glands) to P. quadrangularis (6 to 8 petiole glands) [ P. decaisneana has 4 petiole glands ].  Remember the more petiole glands is the bigger fruits but less cold hardy.  Good luck with your farm. 

[JCorte]

Hoang, so sorry to hear your vine died.  I remember you saying it was your best tasting. 

I really wanted to grow your selection and kept the plants at home so I could keep a close eye on them, but I think it wasn't warm enough for them here.  I appreciate you sharing the genetics and really like the fruits on your Decaisneana.  The Quadrangularis I planted at the farm is still young, I hope it makes it. 

We started construction on my greenhouse today, so I will try the plants in the greenhouse to make the cross.  Thanks for the advice.

Janet

[Pandan]

  Unfortunately, the PQML vine was dead like Kaz mentioned in the thread.

I'm sorry for the loss.
Do you know of anyone who has living cuttings or survivors?

[HoangNguyen]

Hoang, so sorry to hear your vine died.  I remember you saying it was your best tasting. 

I really wanted to grow your selection and kept the plants at home so I could keep a close eye on them, but I think it wasn't warm enough for them here.  I appreciate you sharing the genetics and really like the fruits on your Decaisneana.  The Quadrangularis I planted at the farm is still young, I hope it makes it. 

We started construction on my greenhouse today, so I will try the plants in the greenhouse to make the cross.  Thanks for the advice.

Janet

Hi Janet,

Does your P. decaisneana vine ever give you fruits?  You need to hand-pollinate its flowers.  The vine like steer manure and chicken manure.

Thanks,
Hoang

[HoangNguyen]

I'm sorry for the loss.
Do you know of anyone who has living cuttings or survivors?

Hi Pandan,

My friend still has the vine.  It almost died from the last winter.  His vine just recovered.  I can get the cuttings from him to replant at my place. 

Thanks,
Hoang

[JCorte]

Hoang,
Glad to hear you'll be able to start a new vine.  I got a few fruits from the Decaisneana last year, I liked them a lot.  They were sweeter than other passion fruits I've tried with a unique tropical pineapple flavor and the flowers are so beautiful.  PQML must really be good if it was your best. 

Haven't had any fruits yet this year, but I recently realized that the irrigation to them had been damaged.  I got a huge load of Llama manure from a neighbor so it will get a good dose. 

When you made your selection was the seed parent Decaisneana or Quadrangularis?  Did you grow out several seedlings?

Janet

[Pau]

Im interested when vine is ready to share 

[HoangNguyen]

Janet,

That is good question I forgot to mention.  The PQML came from the seed of quadrangularis.  We can fruit quadrangularis in NorCal for several year.  Some years the fruits are good but some other years aren’t ( the fruit of quadrangularis has to be ripe before December.)  we decided to make the cross of decaisneana x quadrangularis.  We used pollen of decaisneana put on quadrangularis flowers.  Later we   plant the seeds of the fruits.  There were different seedlings.  We wanted the big fruits.  We selected seedlings that had more than 4 petiole glands.  We had 5,6, 7, 8 petiole glands seedlings. PQML has 5,6 petiole glands.

For decaisneana fruits, I detected the fragrance of soursop.  Again, it depends the ripeness of the fruit and the time you pick the fruits.  The fruit taste best if they are ripe before the cold of winter. 

Hoang

[HoangNguyen]

Im interested when vine is ready to share 

Thank you for the interest.  Sure. 

[JCorte]

Thanks for all the info Hoang.  I'd love to try your cuttings again if you offer them for sale.

Janet

[sc4001992]

Hoang,

Looks like I finally got some fruits on your P. decaisneana vine. I hope the fruits hold until maturity.

I did hand pollinate and it must have worked.

[sc4001992]

I have at least four fruits on Hoang's P. decaisneana vine for the first time. I did hand pollinate and it looks like every one that I pollinated have fruits formed.

 

[sc4001992]

Here's the photos of my Hoang-Passiflora decaisneana (8-19-23). It has much more flowers blooming now, in the middle of this heavy rain so I can't pollinate it.

I hope they hang on until ripe. These fruits sure grow large fast, it has been only a few weeks since I had pollinated them. I'll post some photos again in 2 weeks so you can see how much larger it has gotten.

[sc4001992]

This WTB post is closed, thanks Hoang.