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Anecdotal, my prague on taitri wakes up sooner than the prague on flying dragon. They are in different parts of the yard.

Florian, have you harvested the fruit in the green stage? Is it edible? Some early Satsumas I've seen can be harvested green like Xie Shan and still be edible.

Here is another example, this forum user in 7b harvested her fruit around Thanksgiving (November). She is in Maryland, around 3 hours south from me in NJ

I saw a post on Facebook where Stan has shipped fruit in November to someone to try it, so it depends when the flowers set the fruit

In zone 8a the fruits will be destroyed by first frost before they are ripe.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inducing flowering in pomegranate
« on: May 15, 2024, 03:51:41 PM »
Congrats. My Russian 26 is also blooming here and there

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Poncirus aroma?
« on: May 10, 2024, 08:49:22 PM »
I agree with Mulberry. It maybe that my tongue doesn't detect the bitter in the juice. Even the resin doesn't taste bad to me. It tastes like a very sour lemon with floral qualities. The rind has a nice aroma but I only smell it up close with my nose basically on the rind. I've tried 3 different poncirus fruit including flying dragon and none has the awful flavor you read about online. Maybe my tongue is broken. I did try a citrandarin once, not sure what variety and that had a bad aftertaste as well as a burning sensation on the tongue. I imagine that might be what others detect in poncirus.

I meant the fruit, sell some sample boxes or something. Very niche lol

Could the poor setting be due to lack of pollination/ fertile pollen? Perhaps hand pollinating with another citrus, or with flowers that release pollen could help out.

I thought about doing this, even if as a small scale operation on Etsy or Facebook groups, selling a small sample box of my hardy stuff not just the Prague but also my hardy poms. But there are always risks as some of those platforms tend to collect Karens that will complain and demand money back if the fruit isnt to their liking so describing your offering is important to protect your bottomline.

I am planting my taitri cuttings to graft Prague to so that it grows quickly. Already have 4 Prague 1 on flying dragon, 1 on pure poncirus, and 2 on taitri. Have 2 more taitri that are growinig now and will wait to graft.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Precocious Yuzu
« on: May 08, 2024, 06:46:17 PM »
Good idea grafting it to something stronger. I did this with a sumo seedling that flowered and made a fruit at 8 months, except I used a side graft on a vigorous pomelo. The fruit got pretty big but unfortunately both the pomelo and the sumo roots rotted after several heavy rains so the fruit dropped. I saved a piece of the sumo and it's now grafted to taitri.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / First time grafting pawpaw success
« on: May 01, 2024, 07:37:56 PM »
Bark grafts, cleft grafts, chip budding. I did these in mid April (NJ zone 7a) as soon as I received the package due to the post office delaying the delivery for several days.

Thanks to forum member broncn for the excellent scions Al Horns, Tropical Treat, IXL, and Lehman's Chiffon.

The scions were sealed with parafilm and secured with rubber bands and black electrical tape for added pressure. Wood glue on the exposed wood where I topped the trees.

Yes, graft it to that poncirus! Citrumelo might die back in a severe winter, even though it survived for me -17c once. I don't graft on it, I have tried some but the grafts died in a cold winter while the tree didn't.

I took this video 2 days ago. It shows the prague

does stan also use flying dragon?


It's been in the ground about 8 years, but was probably about two years old when I got it from Stan Mackenzie.  I had to go out and look; it appears to be grafted about a foot high (35cm) on what I think is a PT rootstock, based on the leaf pattern of a rootstock sucker a couple years ago, but it could be Citrange, those being the two rootstocks Stan uses. Note the dense canopy that Prague forms, which is helpful in protecting the inside of the tree from harsh temperatures. Not that it seems to need it at 12F(-11C).

i think my original prague might be on it, it barely grows bud date is 2020

summer 2021

spring 2024

Yes, was talking about the taitri seed. i should have quoted the reply :)

Maybe you can find some seeds or cuttings on the forum. I don't have fruit yet but when I do I will share the seeds. Do you have access to vigorous growing poncirus or an already established tree? that will certainly help boost the growth. 

the prague is on the left, multi grafted taitri

new graft of prague i did to taitri cutting, the whole tree will be prague

if you can get taitri, which is hardy in zone 7, use that as a rootstock and you won't have to wait decades. I have a graft on taitri outdoors which has outgrown the original prague I bought from Stan that is on poncirus (2-3 years ago) in just a season.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you bury passionflower trunk?
« on: April 18, 2024, 08:33:41 PM »
the older trunks are susceptible to fungus. are you able to lift the plant out of the pot? if the roots are substantial the whole plant root system should pop out with the soil. then you can add soil to the pot. i have a short video of what the root system looks like on a 3 gallon plant notice the entire rootball came out with barely any soil visible

Tropical Fruit Discussion / passiflora tucumanensis fruit
« on: April 18, 2024, 01:43:25 PM »
does anyone on the forum have it? what does the fruit look like? how is the flavor?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best way to root feijoa cuttings?
« on: April 15, 2024, 02:30:05 PM »
yes, led lights

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: 6b/7a overwinter success
« on: April 14, 2024, 10:12:49 PM »
My Prague chimera from Stan came on flying dragon. It grows very slowly, but I used it as stock and have copies of it on taitri and standard poncirus now.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: 6b/7a overwinter success
« on: April 14, 2024, 07:28:33 PM »
Nice work, are they on flying dragon rootstock? If you keep them small it will be easy to cover

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passionfruit container plant
« on: April 11, 2024, 06:16:26 PM »
Yes they are edulis, purple variety. I've never had flowers this early, if they survive the acclimation and don't get scorched within the coming weeks I should have fruit by July. The forecast here looks frost free for now.

Are you making hybrids with the caerulea and maypop? I have some what I think might be maypop x edulis seedlings in a big pot but won't be sure until they flower.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passionfruit container plant
« on: April 11, 2024, 05:19:45 PM »
Just put mine outside. The left one made flower buds while inside. Both plants are atleast 3 years old from seed

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: AKME garden scam
« on: April 09, 2024, 03:51:34 PM »
I did eventually get my order for scions atleast but they came extremely late (something like 2-3 months) after I placed the order which by then it was too late to graft. Waste of money

Madridje, not sure. Thought pawpaws don't come true to seed so I don't know if rootstock varieties exist.

Here are my trees. Would it be ok to leave the limbs I've marked with 1,2,3 if I top where the line is marked "g" that is where I'd put my grafts.
I just want some insurance in case my grafts fail. Those limbs have flowers.

The large trees will be bark grafts. The smaller tree will probably be a whip/cleft/ etc whatever I can do most comfortably. 

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Figs vs kumquats
« on: April 05, 2024, 11:35:34 AM »
nice, I'm growing some meiwa seeds to graft to poncirus to replace my dead meiwa

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Figs vs kumquats
« on: April 04, 2024, 07:21:04 PM »
the seedling meiwa looks like a poncirus trifoliata

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