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Cold Hardy Citrus / Atlanta Winter Citrus Damage
« on: February 05, 2023, 11:05:08 AM »
Ok. Got outside to look at the Damage. Most of it happened on the 22nd to 24th on the runup to Christmas. Many houses and buildings had water damage from burst pipes and water tanks. I checked the weather history, and it went from 50 degrees F on the 23rd to 9 degrees F on the 24th. The damage was harsh because I was actually stuck out of State and was not able to protect any of my plants. Every Citrus plant is defoliated except one.

The Citrangequat is the clear winner. It is mostly defoliated, but most of the growth is still green with only a little tip burn. I pruned it anyway because it was getting way too tall and bushy. Come spring, I will take out some of the stems to try and keep it to 3 trunks. These winters make me too nervous to try and turn it into a tree. So it'll get the fig/ pomegranate treatment of a few trunks so that hopefully at least one will make it every winter. This one is unprotected fully out in the open.

The UGA Changsha is defoliated with maybe 30% damage. It is on the South Side of the house next to a Meyer lemon. I'll prune once growth starts in the spring.

The Meyer lemon is mostly dead with green on 2 large trunks up against the south wall. So it will probably come back, but will need serious pruning. Not sure what form will be left here. If it finally dies or comes back as sprouts, I'll pull it out and pot it as it only gives fruit every other year with these weather issues.

The potted citrus:

Miho satsuma: some green at the base, so cautiously optimistic to see if the graft survived.

Sudachi: Looks dead as a doornail, but will wait before tossing:

Bloomsweet: Some green at the base, will wait to see if graft survives.

UGA Ichang: Most of the stems are green, will wait to see how much of the form will come back. This one was bought from me by a close family friend, so sorry now that I gave it away, but will see if I can get some budwood before giving it away.

Yuzuquat: Looks dead as a doornail. All brown. This one was never really that hardy for me. I think the warm winters just don't agree with it.

Moral of the story: The Japanese varieties just aren't cut out for the Southeast. Yuzu, Yuzuquat, Sudachi should be able to take the lows, but it stays way too warm in the winter for them to harden up. I think it's back to the Kumquat hybrids for me. Thomasville is the KIng, and now Hershel has a Sinton that I will get in the Spring. That kumquat dormancy seems like an essential quality down here as opposed to California with its cooler winters.
The Ichang looks good but the fruit is way too large for me to use. A neighbor has the original non-irradiated one, and whenever they give me some, all I can do is freeze it in trays. Putting some in a cup of tea is ridiculous as one eighth of  a fruit would be enough. I would just waste the rest.

I'll update it in the Spring with my final results.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Georgia Grower Rapidly Reacts to HLB Find
« on: February 22, 2022, 04:58:24 PM »
Whoops, looks like hlb is starting to spread in South Georgia.  With the growth of the citrus industry,  it was only a matter of time as those areas are too close to Florida. 

Earlier this year, a small grove owner in Grady County, Georgia, noticed some odd-looking trees in his grove. The leaves, having an asymmetrical discoloration, appeared to be nutritionally deficient. In an attempt to remedy the problem, the grower reached out to the Grady County Extension office for help. The Extension agent began his quest to figure out the trees’ issue(s).

After collecting a number of leaf samples, the Extension agent contacted a citrus specialist for assistance and, as a precautionary measure, submitted the samples for testing to the University of Georgia Plant Molecular Diagnostic Lab to determine if the trees were diseased. When the lab results came back, the Extension agent found himself in a situation he had never before encountered — what to do about trees infested with huanglongbing (also known as HLB or citrus greening).

Wow! The things that people will buy down here!
I wonder how much money these people make from selling this?<br /><br />

Cold Hardy Citrus / Results of Citrangequat vs Sudachi Taste test
« on: October 16, 2021, 12:35:00 PM »
Ok, so Today I decided to pick one of my Sudachi and one of my citrangequats to compare since I will be moving in a few years.
I unfortunately didn't measure the weight of the fruit before hand.

The Sudachi was 3 times the size of the Thomasville, but the thomasville was definitely more juicy. The Sudachi gave exactly 1 Teaspoon (measured) of juice.  The Thomasville have slightly over 1 teaspoon.

I put the juice in 2 separate cups, and made an ade. 1 teaspoon of simple syruo (1:1 sugar and water), with 3 teaspoons of water.

I marked the cups and put some ice in it, and served to my wife and son.

Interestingly, both my wife and son preferred the Thomasville to the Sudachi-ade. Both said that the Sudachi was more orange-y. 
The Zest of the sudachi was more unique to me. I did taste that slight pepper flavor that people mention. The thomasville zest of course had that citrange component, so I wouldn't try to use that zest in anything.

If the Thomasville zest tasted better, I think it would be a clear winner. More juice, more acid taste, and it's proven more hardy. Juice wise, it's still more useful. I'll try this again when they're both yellow ripe.

Next test will probably be meyer lemons vs ichang lemons...

Cold Hardy Citrus / Moving Citrus?
« on: September 15, 2021, 10:17:27 PM »
So my yuzuquat that I thought dead has recovered very quickly and vigourously. It is way too close to my zombie meyer lemon that won't die. I was thinking of removing one of my pomegranates to put the yuzuquat there. Should I do this in the fall/winter or wait until spring?

I know it'll probably sulk for a few years, which I hate since it just fruited, but those thorns are too vicious to leave nearby..

Cold Hardy Citrus / Flowering times on citrangequat?
« on: August 14, 2021, 01:11:58 PM »
Hey all,

I went outside yesterday, and noticed that my Thomasville was putting out several more flowers. I don't remember it flowering this late in the year before, even with several dozen fruits on it. Is this the kumquat heritage showing or maybe the extreme heat this year?

Even the Meyer lemon has stopped flowering...

Mr. Duncan posted a nice video showing some hardy citrus being grown outside in Coastal Canada.

The sudachi looks super productive!

Cold Hardy Citrus / Using up those Citrangequats!!!
« on: October 16, 2016, 05:05:05 PM »
So I finally got some time to take a look at the tree this year. This one always is a great producer. So let's see what we can do with these.

First up, key lime pie or rather, citrangequat pie...
First ingredient, 1 Thomasville citrangequat tree!

I picked quite a few fruit, but I still have enough for maybe 3 or 4 more of these..


I actually needed less of these than I thought, because they are so juicy. The skin is very thin, but I was able to zest them easily enough.


The finished product. And my wife promptly adopted the first slice.


BTW, the remnants made an excellent margarita, if you're so inclined. I think I'll use some to make a nice persimmon and peach hot sauce since I have an excess of habaneros and fuyus this year......

Cold Hardy Citrus / First crop of Citrangequats
« on: September 23, 2015, 12:00:40 AM »
Finally got a first crop of these and I'm stoked that it survived the past 2 winters and has set fruit. Yuzuquat is coming back strong as well. And my zombie Meyer lemon is speeding up from its resurrection.  ;D

Cold Hardy Citrus / SouthEast Citrus Expo 2014 Mini-Report
« on: November 21, 2014, 10:06:08 PM »

SouthEast Citrus Expo 2014 Mini-Report

This was my first year attending the Citrus Expo. I drove south from Atlanta, and  3 hours later, here we are:

The first thing that I saw was the plants for sale at the front.They seemed to be Camelias and some citrus with baskets of fruit to sample. Mr. Crawford from Loch Laurel Nursery was very helpful in answering questions and giving samples.

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