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Re: Most underrated fruits - what should be grown more?
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2022, 03:30:34 AM »
Any underrated garcinias? I have purple mangosteen and achacha but I wouldn't say these are underrated as both are commercial crops. Keledang looks amazing but I have never tried it. Pretty sure there have to be quite a few underrated Artocarpus, besides Kwai muk.

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Re: Most underrated fruits - what should be grown more?
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2022, 07:54:17 AM »
“Peanut Butter Fruit”- Bunchosia argentea-  High fat content ,decent (excellent imo) balanced avocado peanut/sweet peas flavor, fruit production nearly year round, can be blown over by hurricane and uprighted no problems, very filling can give you the farts.








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Re: Most underrated fruits - what should be grown more?
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2022, 08:51:32 AM »
Flacourtia indica.

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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2022, 03:51:54 AM »
Flacourtia indica.

if it's thornless for sure!

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Re: Most underrated fruits - what should be grown more?
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2022, 03:52:11 AM »
for me the one that gets me excited is maprang.

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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2022, 10:56:13 AM »
for me the one that gets me excited is maprang.
Yes I have to agree with this one!
gelatinous flesh and good flavor. Unfortunately not many people are growing this in the US, especially in FL.
I think a good one might outrank a regular mango for me.

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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2022, 08:19:08 PM »
I agree, i would love to grow Maprang and mayong chid. From what i heard it's hard to grow in fl? I still want to try it tho lol

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Re: Most underrated fruits - what should be grown more?
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2022, 08:29:28 PM »
I agree, i would love to grow Maprang and mayong chid. From what i heard it's hard to grow in fl? I still want to try it tho lol
Slower growers, and weaker root systems. I've seen a decent sized one, but still way off from fruiting. I wish I bought some.

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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2022, 09:24:47 PM »
I agree, i would love to grow Maprang and mayong chid. From what i heard it's hard to grow in fl? I still want to try it tho lol
Slower growers, and weaker root systems. I've seen a decent sized one, but still way off from fruiting. I wish I bought some.
From what i research in Thai, younger tree and newly planted tree must protected from direct sun until established.
Roots must be protected with mulch.
When planting in the ground, do not let the roots fall apart. Wait for the  dirt in the pot to dry out before planting. That way the dirt hold its shape. You can deep water it after planting.
Do not fertilize the tree until you see new growth. Give very little cow maneuver compost. (It doesn't like salty? Do not use chicken maneuver because it's too salty)



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Re: Most underrated fruits - what should be grown more?
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2022, 10:04:46 PM »
My second maprang seedling died like the first, and because the third one is looking haggard also I tried planting it into pure peat moss as a hail-mary in case it is wanting acid soil or something. 

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Re: Most underrated fruits - what should be grown more?
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2022, 12:21:22 AM »
My second maprang seedling died like the first, and because the third one is looking haggard also I tried planting it into pure peat moss as a hail-mary in case it is wanting acid soil or something.
I hope it does better for you. I like that thinking lol
Mine has been very slow in regular soil
best bet is to buy grafted trees from PR imo

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« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2022, 12:23:40 AM »
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best bet is to buy grafted trees from PR imo

I would think a grafted tree would be even more finicky!  I am not risking growing any expensive grafted trees if I can't even get a seedling to live for more than six months :)

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Re: Most underrated fruits - what should be grown more?
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2022, 09:16:02 AM »
Maprang is more difficult then mango in Florida i think its the humidity but Im not positive

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« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2022, 05:52:00 AM »
don’t think Maprang is underrated tho, the folks who have tryed it rate it highly…

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Re: Most underrated fruits - what should be grown more?
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2022, 06:13:24 AM »
Id add jakfruit to the underrated list, but understandably so. Some cultivars mediocre on flavor and others are a pain to process the fruit out, but then you come across a easy peel absolutely delicious jak and doors to fruit heaven open.

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Re: Most underrated fruits - what should be grown more?
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2022, 08:19:59 AM »
don’t think Maprang is underrated tho, the folks who have tryed it rate it highly…
I don't think it is a commonly known fruit in the USA. Even so not many people are growing it.
where can you try the fruits?
And Jackfruit I'd say has to be well rated as it's pretty common.
But I can't deny that it is a good fruit. My favorite is the hybrid.
Chempedak is just too slimy for me.

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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2022, 09:40:39 AM »
I have had some really good Hog Plum (Spondias purpurea). But you don't hear much about it. It had an awesome fruit punch type flavor. Cercropia was pretty good, too. Not mango good, but as good as mulberry which gets a lot more press on the forum. I also enjoy natal plum--fruits are hard to come by in Florida because of the sterile plants used for landscape, but the soft-ripe fruits remind me of cranberry/apple sauce.

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Re: Most underrated fruits - what should be grown more?
« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2022, 10:12:06 AM »
I have had some really good Hog Plum (Spondias purpurea). But you don't hear much about it.

Are the urushiol levels or the risk of contact dermatitis/allergy a problem? The descriptions suggest the contents are higher/less localized than in mangoes.

Given that it's a semi-arid species (hence the urushiol, which acts as a waterproofing/anti-desiccant agent), I'm surprised the agricultural uses have focused on Florida and not California or Arizona. Too much risk of frost in the desert?

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Re: Most underrated fruits - what should be grown more?
« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2022, 10:19:36 AM »
I have had some really good Hog Plum (Spondias purpurea). But you don't hear much about it.

Are the urushiol levels or the risk of contact dermatitis/allergy a problem? The descriptions suggest the contents are higher/less localized than in mangoes.

Given that it's a semi-arid species (hence the urushiol, which acts as a waterproofing/anti-desiccant agent), I'm surprised the agricultural uses have focused on Florida and not California or Arizona. Too much risk of frost in the desert?

probably. they are barely able to survive winters on the southern coasts of Florida

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« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2022, 10:51:56 AM »
I have had some really good Hog Plum (Spondias purpurea). But you don't hear much about it. It had an awesome fruit punch type flavor. Cercropia was pretty good, too. Not mango good, but as good as mulberry which gets a lot more press on the forum. I also enjoy natal plum--fruits are hard to come by in Florida because of the sterile plants used for landscape, but the soft-ripe fruits remind me of cranberry/apple sauce.
Natal plum was decent for me but there was a lot of sap.
I do agree that hog plum is underatted. I do think it tasted good, but it's been a while since I last tried it.

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Re: Most underrated fruits - what should be grown more?
« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2022, 11:10:43 AM »
What does this have to do with Mango? :-)

Seriously, down here in Florida I think that persimmon could use a boost in popularity

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« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2022, 03:22:29 PM »
What does this have to do with Mango? :-)
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Re: Most underrated fruits - what should be grown more?
« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2022, 08:32:07 AM »
I would like to add Caimito. Obviously I'm biased as I'm not living in the tropics but I still think the fruit is underrated.

Where I live people grow them mostly for shade and the look. Many of my neighbors have massive trees for shade and orchids and the trees are super high, like 10 meters tall or more, and most people don't even pick the fruit. Side note the wood from the tree is highly prized for orchid mounts, it is one of the longest lasting wood for orchids mounts at around 10 years before it rots. where i live most wood rots in a year or 2.

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« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2022, 12:17:10 PM »
I would say june plum is pretty underrated. If anyone loves sour crunchy fruit this is a good one. Great with salt and chili when it's green.  You can eat a ripe fruit but i eat them green.  Green fruits can be pickled.  Many things you do with a sour green mango you can with the june plum.  Even tender leaves are edible and sour.  The only thing they are a pain to separate the flesh from the spikey seed if your new to the fruit.  But it's much easier as you develop your technique.  They grow a little slow in my area but I think it's because they bloom profusely and of course not the most ideal climate but I seen some large trees.  Gophers seem to kill my tree every so often, ahah.

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« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2022, 07:00:15 PM »
I would say june plum is pretty underrated. If anyone loves sour crunchy fruit this is a good one. Great with salt and chili when it's green.  You can eat a ripe fruit but i eat them green.  Green fruits can be pickled.  Many things you do with a sour green mango you can with the june plum.  Even tender leaves are edible and sour.  The only thing they are a pain to separate the flesh from the spikey seed if your new to the fruit.  But it's much easier as you develop your technique.  They grow a little slow in my area but I think it's because they bloom profusely and of course not the most ideal climate but I seen some large trees.  Gophers seem to kill my tree every so often, ahah.
I could never get myself to like the taste of these both ripe and unripe. Tried some with salt also. Seems like it is another fruit that has more uses underipe in cooking than ripe.
But I did like the hog plum a relative of this tree.