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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to graft annona?
« on: November 24, 2022, 12:31:25 AM »
Cant commend much regarding other tipes of grafting technigues regarding anonas. Ive only tried cleft and aproach grafting .
The clefts i did last fall, somewhere in september, from 8 or so i only had 2 that took.
I would however reccomend to anybody to do aproach grafting. I have done aproach  in september last year, also did several this summer around june. ALL of my aproach grafts were succesfull and i actually think that aproach grafting is not as dependent on the season, i think it can be done probably any time of the year and still be succesfull.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Trees with high ornamental value
« on: November 24, 2022, 12:19:53 AM »
With my limited collection of fruit trees, my takes are...
- Chineese jujube
- peach, nectarine, they look so tropical with their descending leaves.
- carambolla
- coffee
- dragon fruit
- Cherimoya, i love the big dark green leaves, the fruit also looks unique
- Loquat , a nice evergreen with big leaves
- Asimina triloba , probably my favorite looking fruit tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya video
« on: November 18, 2022, 03:19:36 PM »
Those look wonderfull !

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Those look a little more plump and elongated ,compared to cherimoya seeds ive seen.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa in NJ zone 7a
« on: November 17, 2022, 01:07:05 AM »
Thanks for the update!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa in NJ zone 7a
« on: November 15, 2022, 12:38:18 AM »
Vnomonee, i am curious what happened to your feijoas that were planted next to the house? Any news on those, couldnt find an update on them in your tread.

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Brian, i will probably make just a simple wood box for them, bottomles since you say they like to sleep on the ground directly. I want to try this since it will be better for them to go in there for the night,i regularly go into the gh in the evening so i  dont really want to scare them and force them run places in the dark haha ....


Vall , i dont really know which tipe they will be, i am quessing not a fancy tipe or whatever, i will photo them and post here , it'll be nice to further id them.

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Thanks for all the comments! My uncle has took the quails from one person, 7 of them. I hope they arent too much for my 12 m2 greenhouse. Sounds like i should not have a problem, i have just a few pots in there so dont really have that much vegetation happening dawn low.
I will take them in friday and by then i have to make a little house for them to sleep in or hide till they get adjusted. Do they need a coop with like sticks inside, for them to rest on, like chickens ?

Brian, those buton quails look very cute, also gray and easily seen, knowing how good their camouflage is, on the regular ones, they'll be hard to find in there.

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I know some of you raise quails in your greenhouses, i looked up old posts but couldnt find information regarding whether quails eat and could damage plants. Has anyone of you had problems with them destroing your plants?
My uncle will be getting me 5 quails, probably the common ones, in a few days . Should i put nets around the bases of the plants?
Particularly worried about my dragon fruits as they arent woody and would be easy to consume...
Also i hope they dont eat all of the earth worms that i have in the top layer of soil...

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Its nice that they found out that cherimoya is one of the least toxic from the anonas. Ive ate paw paw only once, it was really good and i have several plants in my garden, i wont be discarding them though, wont be having fruits in like  3-4 years from now. Hopefully the scientists find out that  its not the pure fruit thats causing it and the toxicity ends up being dependent on other factors....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Advice on root
« on: November 11, 2022, 11:28:54 AM »
I also have such roots on my guavas, from all my plants they seem to make the most visible shallow roots. I think that as the trunk at the base and the roots expand they will self graft at each touching point, as roots on most trees do...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Monstera deliciosa
« on: November 09, 2022, 12:59:24 AM »
I am growing 2 of those in my greenhouse, inground. They are still small plants though with one of them awready making gigantic leaves at its second year since it was started from a cutting. I wonder how to train them in the future and will probably try to guide them to grow on the ground as opposed to having them vertical on a trellis, as this will shade my other sun loving plants.
Ive seen them fruiting at a botanical garden here ,the plant was not very big and had quite a few fruit on it, growing in full sun in a gh, havent asked the people there if they ate it but i assume they do .
I really want to try the fruit , hopefully someday from my plants ...

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Could you just stick a wire in the hole and kill them without "extracting" them or digging into the bark?
Well, the holes are very well hidden, i have to peal away some of the bark as to find the little tunnels, but they are very branched jenerally ,so its hard to know where exactly the worm is. Its not like the holes i get in the firewood from the xxxxxl borers, which tend to be straight tunnels, unbranched.
I think i will have to manually kill as much as possible but i also want to know what chemical i can use to prevent and control this in the future.
The bark of the apricot is too thick for me to be messing with it, on the cherries its very thin so it was easy to find and kill them, i will try though.

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Well ,from one problem to another....i was wondering why my apricot trunk is all cracked and full of deep crevices ,well a week ago hapenned to look a bit closer and found the remaing/discarded shredded wood  piles all over the trunk of the tree. I assume that i have bark borers in there ,probably the same ones that i found on my cherries.
I do have them in way smaller amount than in the apricot and i actually extracted almost all of the ones that i found on the cherries, they are like little caterpillars that bore into the cambium, just below the bark. They are actively eating the live  bark/cambium layer.
What can i use to control such pests, i could spend several days extracting the ones from the apricot manually but i will damage all of the living bark thats left, its that bad!
How do i deal with those ?
Thanks alot !

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I feel bad about this! Not that i eat alot of anonna fruit, i only happen to eat like one cherimoya here and there.... Arent there any researches on cherimoya? My plants have just started fruiting and knowing my conservative family i will have to eat the fruits myself. I love cherimoya, and i dont really think in my climate i could produce a guantity that would be dangerous to be eaten by one person.
Can it be that since there isnt any deep research on cherimoya, does this mean that it doesnt really have enouth of the toxin in the flesh? Like it having such a tiny ammount ,that its not worth it to be researched more ?
Correct me if i'm wrong ,but i had the impression that cherimoya is the most widely grown and commercially important anonna fruit, it is kinsa strange if they didnt do research on it....

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Fig winter protection
« on: November 03, 2022, 03:09:20 AM »
Mine are fairly hrost hardy and survived the past winter with just a little damage, i am still pondering of what i will do as a winter protection, i may go overboard and do a styrofoam caje for them....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papaya leaf curl virus?
« on: October 28, 2022, 10:58:22 AM »
Ive also had this when i was growing papaya here, although the leaves of mine curved downwards and not up, like yours are doing. On mine i found i had a severe mite infestation, i was kinda succesfull in clearing some of them via sprays ,which kinda fixed the leaves, but only a slight improvement happened as the mites were persistent.
You can try to investigate the leaves for sighns of mites and their webs via a magnifier.

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armillarias have white spores, fairly distinctive.
When does the spre dust accur, when they start to detteriorate?
Edit: i harvested them and they appear to be releasing the spore dust now, it is white and has accumulated on the tops of some of them.

Well, from excited about theese mushrooms i am now worried about my plants nearby, my research says that armillaria mushrooms/fungus are parasitic to a wide range of fruit and other plants, mainly trees. They infect roots and bases of live trees, slowly killing them by killing of the cambium/bark layer. Tomorrol i will collect them all and discard them, i see alot of white fungus strings and whole clumps under the mulch so i will collect this as well.
Its a total shit that they are edible but can be dangerous to nearby plants, i hope i manage to eradicate them somehow, the fungus below ground is known to be persistent in time....

Yes, can be dangerous for trees and very hard to eradicate (you might want to have a look at this description of eradication technology: https://fermer.ru/content/openok-osenniy-zlostnyy-vreditel). If you decide not to discard but to cook these mushrooms (excellent taste), do not forget to boil them for 20 min before any other treatment, water should be discarded after that.

i will hit their collony hard and disturb the top soil layer and try to collect any white strings and moldy pieces. Well ,ok just to not trow them, i will harvest them and cook them, i do want to make use of them, thanks for the boiling tip and also for the eradication link, will read that !

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Well, from excited about theese mushrooms i am now worried about my plants nearby, my research says that armillaria mushrooms/fungus are parasitic to a wide range of fruit and other plants, mainly trees. They infect roots and bases of live trees, slowly killing them by killing of the cambium/bark layer. Tomorrol i will collect them all and discard them, i see alot of white fungus strings and whole clumps under the mulch so i will collect this as well.
Its a total shit that they are edible but can be dangerous to nearby plants, i hope i manage to eradicate them somehow, the fungus below ground is known to be persistent in time....

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Thanks, it does look like an armillaria, thought more closely to armilaria tabescens, which is also supposed to be edible  , at least from the pics in the internet.
I am still a little hesitant to try them and will do a little more research until i do...

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First, i am sorry for the off topic , i posted about the same mushrooms last year, in the temperate fruit section and was left without answer. Looked pics online and didnt really saw the same ones that i have....
They are growing in big numbers in my blueberry patches, they seem to like asidic soil but i think are growing without a host. No pines or big trees around, only fruit plants like apple and stonefruit, along with the blueberries. They are growing at clumps as shown in the pics. I just want to know if they are edible or not...










 Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Latest blooming loquat varieties?
« on: October 19, 2022, 06:23:49 AM »
Thanks for the replies!
By the way are there any technices of inducing  off seson
 flowering in loquat? I suppose not ,since ive never heard of such methods.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Latest blooming loquat varieties?
« on: October 17, 2022, 11:55:23 PM »
Hello, one fellow fruit geek is interested in which ones are the latest blooming loguat varieties. The goal is to grow the variety/ ies here in BG, so a cooler climate asks for a plant that will flower at the end of winter and begginning of spring, which is end of march trought april. If theres one that blooms even later, like may, that would be great.
He first wants to know the names of the varieties in question and will do his research on them, later he said he would be looking for plants or cuttings for grafting, once he's sure about the varieties.
Thanks for helping out !

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: GUAVA PESTS
« on: October 13, 2022, 02:27:13 PM »
U can net thw whole tree, if it happens on a yearly basis i would suggest to maybe keep the plant shorter by pruning thus making it easier to net.

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From the seedling I have.


Those while kinda round are still pointy at the tip, never seen or had as round of a leaf  as the op's one on any of my cherimoya seedlings or big plants.It does look like a cherimoya to me, and i know that there may be quite a bit of variation on seed grown material.

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