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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2013, 04:14:12 PM »
reminds me of gardneriana or humilis..  was the photo taken in brazil?
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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2013, 04:23:53 PM »
Livingstone I presume,but no wait, could it be achachairu?

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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2013, 04:26:53 PM »
The owner of the blog is from Queensland, Australia. He call it Wild Mangosteen.

http://gwen4gardens.blogspot.ae/2010/10/wild-mangosteen-garcinia-spedible.html
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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2013, 04:27:19 PM »
I just looked at the link and it is from Cooktown.Cooktown Mangosteen is a feral not a native and refers to Imbe which has marched into the bush maybe 60 years ago.
Imbe I presume.

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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2013, 04:53:41 PM »
My vote is for Imbe.

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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2013, 04:59:45 PM »
Same here, imbe

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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2013, 05:50:40 PM »
ya u guys are right looks like imbe...at first I thought they were larger...now I see they aren't too big.
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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2013, 08:21:32 PM »
IMBE
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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2013, 08:23:46 PM »
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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2013, 09:51:44 PM »
Can I get an Amen

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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2013, 11:46:33 PM »
There is a second pic on the blog with leaves. 100% Imbe!

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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2013, 12:24:34 AM »
reminds me of gardneriana or humilis..  was the photo taken in brazil?

BTW Adam Garcinia humilis is not achachairu. Humilis is a species form Caribbean, common name hat rack, not from Bolivia like achachairu. Australians have misidentified achachairu and do call it G. humilis.
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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2013, 09:20:45 AM »
reminds me of gardneriana or humilis..  was the photo taken in brazil?

BTW Adam Garcinia humilis is not achachairu. Humilis is a species form Caribbean, common name hat rack, not from Bolivia like achachairu. Australians have misidentified achachairu and do call it G. humilis.

thanks Oscar...

I remember you correcting me before...saying it was humilis, instead of laterifolia (which is what I used to call it)...what are u calling it now?
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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2013, 11:54:38 AM »
I am new to the garcinias.  Are there any that will grow well in south FL?  What about taste?  Worth growing in my homestead?
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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2013, 04:07:19 PM »
Saff he could be saying it is an undescribed species and those stupid Australians just did a pin the tail on the donkey routine with names.G.humilis had a nice ring about it and was kinda on the same continent.Maybe Garcinia sp. achachairu is the easiest way to identify it.

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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2013, 04:15:55 PM »
thanks for the info Mike.  it makes sense, because Oscar would have stated the real botanical name in his last post if he had it.

(we need to start making up more names...because this sp. crap has me vexed...that's why I coined the name garcinia vleerackerii..lol...I think it will stick for a while...until some goody two shoes taxonomist tries to challenge it)
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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2013, 05:06:32 PM »
You need a name to get it into Australia. The Brazilians already mislabeled it as humilis, so that will do for the seed import. I guess the name just stuck post import.

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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2013, 05:47:40 PM »
You need a name to get it into Australia. The Brazilians already mislabeled it as humilis, so that will do for the seed import. I guess the name just stuck post import.

It was the Bolivians that made the mistake of calling it G. humilis.
The Brazilians made the mistake of calling it Rheedia laterifolia, you can see that label in Lorenzi's book. Problem is that there is no such name, never existed. It was a misspelling, should have been spelled correctly as Rheedia lateriflora.
Problem is Rheedia lateriflora, now that Rheedias have been lumped into Garcinia, was renamed to Garcinia humilis. Error comes full circle. So i think you can see how Bolivians made that mistake.
Believe it or not lots of species still remain unnamed by taxonomists, especially in Garcina genus, which hasn't been revised in 150 years!
Garcinia sp. may not be very descriptive, but it's a whole lot better than giving a name that really refers to a whole totally different plant, as is the case with G. humilis.
Really even calling this plant achachairu is quite confusing, because almost all the garcinia species in Bolivia are called achachairu. At one point i suggested calling it achachairu of Santa Cruz, but that never stuck.
Anyway, a rose by any other name is still a rose. Despite the naming difficulty this is still a very good fruit!
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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2013, 06:34:07 PM »
thanks for the input Oscar
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Re: ID this Garcinia sp Plz
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2013, 08:35:31 AM »
Thanks guys  ;)
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