ga3 mixing.

[digigarden]

so i took all my annona seed. new seed and others that have not sprouted yet in a few months and also ilama seeds i had stored. now i opened a progib 40 sg small pack. it says 2.5gr...after pouring some of it in a 0.75L vase pf water but wasn't doing much with the TDS meter. so i put all of it which should have been a lot but then it would only read 115 ppm max so i took it all the liquid and heat it up almost boiling it and then after cooling it went to 132 ppm. now it's down to 128 ppm. should be way more than this maybe 10 times more idk what i did wrong xD but anyways i used all this liquid with my seeds idk if will do anything. help

[digigarden]

[elouicious]

Ga3 has poor solubility in water- best to first suspend it in a bit of alcohol and then dilute the alcohol with water

another trick is to add silica to the water

[digigarden]

ty. yeah i did read that after i had already mixed it with water, my bad. so i did put some drops of alcohol nothing happened then i almost boil it and it only increased a bit. even tho the pack seems to be only 40% it should have been at least 10 times this ppm xD so i guess i will leave this 16 hours at 128 ppm if nothing happens i will try again next month the correct way

[digigarden]

or i'm probably removing the water tomorrow getting another pack and doing it all over again xd

[Orkine]

Interested in your findings.  Please keep posting updates.

[digigarden]

Interested in your findings.  Please keep posting updates.

well i have another ga3 pack(40%) to retry just not sure how long i should mix it with alcohol before adding the water. this alcohol is 70% not sure if i should buy a 90% instead.

[digigarden]

ilama germinating after my failed experiment at 250 ppm 

[Rtreid]

GA3 is an organic acid, while your TDS meter is an electrical conductivity meter that measures the concentration of small ions (sodium, calcium, chloride and the like).  basically it is the wrong tool for the job of determining the amount of GA in solution.

[digigarden]

GA3 is an organic acid, while your TDS meter is an electrical conductivity meter that measures the concentration of small ions (sodium, calcium, chloride and the like).  basically it is the wrong tool for the job of determining the amount of GA in solution.

thanks for the info, what is the tool for the job?

[digigarden]

got lucky it worked and didn't damage the seeds but at the same time didn't learn anything, can't find a tutorial about this topic.

[hammer524]

A few months ago I received these instructions with the GA3 I purchased. I’ve been too busy to try it on all the annona seeds I have tucked away to the side. Think I am gonna try using the GA3 this weekend since this this thread echos the instructions.

[digigarden]

A few months ago I received these instructions with the GA3 I purchased. I’ve been too busy to try it on all the annona seeds I have tucked away to the side. Think I am gonna try using the GA3 this weekend since this this thread echos the instructions.

thanks for sharing that and good luck

[digigarden]

What? A.Deceptrix starting to germinate. Not sure if it's due to seed quality or this^^ ga3

[hammer524]

Woah thats awesome. I am gonna try out the Ga3 tonight. Do you happen to remember how much you used?

[digigarden]

Woah thats awesome. I am gonna try out the Ga3 tonight. Do you happen to remember how much you used?

yeah it says so on the whole thread 

ALL OF IT!!! and it still was just 250 ppm with the TDS but as you see someone told me it's not the right tool for it? like the whole pack was 2.5 gr even tho it says 40% ga3 not 90% like other packs. it was either way too much or average idk man xD

[Rtreid]

GA3 is an organic acid, while your TDS meter is an electrical conductivity meter that measures the concentration of small ions (sodium, calcium, chloride and the like).  basically it is the wrong tool for the job of determining the amount of GA in solution.

thanks for the info, what is the tool for the job?

Unfortunately there is not one.  What you want to do is dissolve your GA3 in ethanol or a dilute base (baking soda will work) then in water. Set your concentration by weight (100 mg/liter of water for 100 ppm)

[Elopez2027@aol.com]

If I can ask a question or two?
Once the GA3 mix is done, can you save any leftover, like in a glass container w/ seal. Perishable, evaporation, viability Come to mind but I defer to someone with experience.
I need to trial this and get right. Thanks for any comment.

[digigarden]

If I can ask a question or two?
Once the GA3 mix is done, can you save any leftover, like in a glass container w/ seal. Perishable, evaporation, viability Come to mind but I defer to someone with experience.
I need to trial this and get right. Thanks for any comment.

some people save it not sure how long @ fridge. something i would never do if i had kids because you know if they drink it or throw it at someone.

from internet:
People also ask
How do you store a GA3 solution?
4. It is best to use this solution fresh! However, some literature indicates that a stock solution of Gibberellic Acid can be stored in the dark at 4°C. We have also seen labs that store the Gibberellic Acid solution at -20°C with no observed degradation of the product.Oct 17, 2019

[digigarden]

possible signs of elongation on my ilamas??

[digigarden]

Ilama var "giraffe" 
hopefully they can make it for 2-3 months

[digigarden]

They just stood up and already about 6-8 inches xD but they somehow don't look sickly so i'm giving them some sun for a while.

the a.deceptrix are also elongated.

[Bush2Beach]

I will just throw this recently observed factoid into the ether: that g3 sprayed on 3 , 10+ year old non fruiting Jaboticaba’s initiated their fruiting cycle for the first time ( only where the g3 was sprayed) .
They have continued fruiting in the 2 years since their initial g3 spray.
This would appear to be a pretty effective tool to initiate fruiting for Jaboticaba’s particularly.
I am hopeful that someone else will try this and we can start to see more data on the effectiveness.

[Ognin525]

I will just throw this recently observed factoid into the ether: that g3 sprayed on 3 , 10+ year old non fruiting Jaboticaba’s initiated their fruiting cycle for the first time ( only where the g3 was sprayed) .
They have continued fruiting in the 2 years since their initial g3 spray.
This would appear to be a pretty effective tool to initiate fruiting for Jaboticaba’s particularly.
I am hopeful that someone else will try this and we can start to see more data on the effectiveness.

Do you remember your ppm levels when spraying? I have a 10ish year old sabra iv been wanting to try this on! I bought the water soluble ga3 a while ago and been to worried to try spraying the jabo. I will spray it tonight if i know the levels i should use.

[Bush2Beach]

I don’t recall. Whatever ratio the directions advised.