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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A wealth of different types of Uvaia
« on: July 19, 2018, 01:24:01 PM »
A correction the fruit and tree shown in my previous post has been identified as Pitomba.

Correct. It is Eugenia luschnathiana - Pitomba da Bahia

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: could it be eugenia pitanga?
« on: June 01, 2018, 12:41:45 PM »
Eugenia Pitanga can produce ribbed fruits. Therefore, they are less perceptible.
About the seedlings, the leafs are from a normal pitanga, as the fruits in the first photo.

Anyway, Eugenia Uniflora is to much variable, and sometimes can produce fruits before two years. But not when in 30 cm tall. Just Eugenia pitanga can do this. ;)
The problem with Uniflora is the flavor. Not all the trees produces fruits with good flavor. Just an advise: don´t buy the tree without to taste de fruits. ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Uvaia fruiting
« on: May 29, 2018, 06:55:33 AM »
     To my surprise, it started to blossom 2 days ago. About 30 flowers blossoming at the same time on that rainy day, I pollinated them with a tiny brush pen to minimize the influence of weather, in hope of getting some fruits this summer.

    I remember some guys on YouTube describe the taste of Uvaia as "a mixed flavor with apricot, tangerine and loquat” which is far beyond my experience and imagination. The best way to know the taste of apple is to eat one. So, wish me good luck to have one.

When grown from seeds Uvaia can frut in four years, sometimes less time. The fruit is to much variable, as the tree. Here in Brazil,we can count 30 vars or more.
I know just 3 of them.

But.... the flavor isn´t like "a mixed flavor with apricot, tangerine and loquat”. The flavor is to much different of that.
You can say for sure it is acid, sometimes more, sometimes less. But a real sweet uvaia DO NOT EXIST, I assure you.
Anyway, the fruit is good. You can make, juices, jelly, vinegar, sorbet, drinks.

A fruit appeared, which has sweet cultivars for sure, is Eugenia Luschnatiana (Known as Curuiuri or Yellow Pitomba). ;)

Vitiga, there isn´t a real "sweet" uvaia.
You can just find a few vars less acid, but sweet, not. ;)

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« on: May 08, 2018, 07:24:17 AM »
Mine are starting to flower. Will try to post photo later.

Please, do it Oscar.

I have two surviving seedlings. One is 2,20 m tall in a pot. Must be close to fruit. :)
The other seedling was in a communitary pot, together with 3 sisters and don´t grew as expected.


Cassio, it seems that your own plant gives seedlings that flower just as fast as Heinrich’s plant.
We have an absolute winner in terms of precocity here: the Uvaia’s I got from Cassio just over a year ago. Two of the three surviving seedlings flowered within 15 months of planting the seeds. That is pretty incredible, also when you consider that they are the smallest variety of Uvaia that I have. The seedlings were pretty chlorotic and sensitive at the beginning and a few of them died, but that has probably more to do with the soil and conditions I am able to give them. I kept them out of direct sun. Nonetheless three healthy plants survived of that batch and I am pretty impressed. I hope they will set some fruit, but you have a unique mother plant there, Cassio!

I am posting an update here, same plants, one year later...

Hi Solko!

Good to know they are doing well there!
Those seeds came from an old tree, more than 10m tall. That tree is in a square near my home. Good to know she set fruits at young age. :)
Her fruits are very juicy, but acid. They are good for juices, liquor, drinks, sorbets, vinegar, jellys....

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: jaboticaba prunning
« on: March 01, 2018, 05:27:09 AM »
Yes, is a good pratice to prune jaboticabas to get more fruits.
Remove the lower branches and the ones that grows to inside of the canopy. Also remove the bad formed branches.
Other thing important for jabos is water. Don´t let she dry. ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: February 02, 2018, 09:59:49 AM »
Humm..... It can be the what we call here Jabuticaba-Açú, which is a Paulista var.
Other interesting thing to know: Coronata normally grows like a tall tree (over 20m sometimes). Açú is lower and the canopy is more "openned". ;)

Marcos, your Guabiju fruited in just four years?! How tall is that tree?
To my knowledge, Guabiju usually fruits only after 7-8 years.

By otherside, I read somewhere that in Uruguay and Argentina exists a var that can fruit when just in 1m tall. Do you know that var, or... is yours that var?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: February 02, 2018, 05:40:44 AM »
Marcos, Coronata has elongated leafs, redish when young. ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba
« on: February 02, 2018, 05:32:29 AM »
It looks like what we call "Hybrid" or "Precoce" jabuticaba here in Brasil.
The time to set fruits for the first time (about 4 years), also reinforces my conclusion. ;)
Precoce can produce fruits several times a year. ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing fruit trees in pots
« on: December 20, 2017, 01:41:16 PM »
First, excuse me if I made use of bad words to explain what I have here, But I´m not sure about how to translate some words from portuguese to english. ;)

Almost all of the fruit trees that I have are in pots. From 30cm x 30 cm (the smallest) up to 80cm x 50 cm (the largest).
They have holes just in the bottom.
I put expanded clay at bottom, covered with bidim blanket, then a thin layer of sand. After that the soil mixture and the tree.
Afeter two years, I do root pruning and soil renewall.

I have jabuticaba, citros, lychee, dovyalis, pitanga, blackberry, guava and other fruit trees producing. Not a lot of fruits, of course, but I am happy anyway. :)

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: GDSeeds
« on: December 18, 2017, 05:04:53 AM »
Good work and well organized thread Guilherme. ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thai Sweet Tamarinds.
« on: November 28, 2017, 09:16:00 AM »
As a side note, you can use the leafs too. Do a salad with tomato and garlic. ;)

Cherry of Rio Grande is in fact Eugenia Involucrata.
Agregata is Guapijuim, a similar species.
And there is Eugenia Calycina too, which is other similar species.

Involucrata can vary a lot in size, color and taste. All of the 3 species pointed above can fruit in pots. I never had an Agregata, nor a Calycina, in my hands, so, I can´t tell you the taste.
About Involucrata, you must do a good seek to be sure that you found a good var., but yeah, they can be very good fruits. ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: outstanding eugenia uniflora flowering
« on: October 03, 2017, 06:39:52 AM »
WOW!!!! She is a beauty Marcos! Congrats!
At least here, looks like that after a rainy and more cold time (this year, from may to august), uniflora can flowers much more.
My red var flowered a lot too:

Click over the photos to see them in full size

The dwarf var (from cerrado) also flowered:

I also have a black var(with big leafs) that will take at least one year before to fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: September 25, 2017, 06:42:39 AM »
its leaves remind me to some other jaboticaba species... maybe they are similar to aureana?

Maybe Marcos... The young leafs are to much similar.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: September 25, 2017, 06:40:31 AM »
Hi, so, if we in the U.S.A want to order from E-Jardim, can we? Will the seeds arrive? I love the webpage but, since I don't speak Portuguese I'm a bit concerned. Any info would be appreciated. Best regards, Chris

He speaks english. Drop a note to him.
Facebook account is "Eduardo Jardim".

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: September 21, 2017, 07:59:08 AM »
Cool Cassio, but I cant find any info on the net about your jaboticaba sapucaia, neither at e-jardim

what/how would she be?

Marcos, there is a photo of a bigger tree available under the facebook account of "Eduardo Jardim". ;)
In fact, this is a var of a better known species (I just do not remember which is). What makes her different is the color of their leafs, which are rose when young, later reddish and light green in the end. It makes her an ornamental beauty as you can see in my photo above. Cause the color of the young leafs that ressembles a sapucaia tree, she was named "sapucaia" by e-jardim.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: September 20, 2017, 07:12:31 AM »
Beleza total Cassio, what is that jaboticaba? where did you got it?

Obrigado Marcos!

The grafted Sapucaia I bought from e-jardim (Rio de Janeiro)
The grafted Coroada da Restinga I bought from São José do Rio Preto

But I also have a Sabará and two hybrids (also known as "precoce" var), all of them with young fruits for now.
I also have a Blue jabo, but I think she will take more 1 or 2 years before to fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First jaboticaba flower buds??????
« on: September 19, 2017, 07:52:57 AM »
yes... I will get crazy soon: so Adam thinks it is paulista, but Helton thinks it is a wild coronata, but you think it cant be coronata because it is too young 7 or 8 years old to flower? hey, lets meet together and fight!

Maybe it is coronata and I just fertilized it ok

Maybe it is paulista and it is ok...

I dont know

If it is coronata or something else, we will find it with the first fruits

Yeah, is pretty hard to do a good identification. Even with fruits in hand, sometimes it isn´t a precise job.
What matters is that she is fruiting, all the rest is just history. ;)
Just enjoy the fruits.  8)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: September 19, 2017, 07:47:36 AM »

beautiful how old is the plant?

I´m not sure...
She is grafted, and was bought in 2014. This is the second time she blooms.
Pot is 80cm tall by 50 cm in the "mouth". ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First jaboticaba flower buds??????
« on: September 18, 2017, 02:48:06 PM »
Thanks Cassio, coming from a brazilian man, it sounds good! crossing fingers for her! and it would be nice it fruits, as I dont know if it is paulista or wild coronata...

Coronata takes years before to fruit. Some vars can take up 20 years, and become a huge tree! Take a look:
I think yours is to much young.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: September 18, 2017, 02:26:30 PM »
Jabuticaba "sapucaia" (grafted) in a pot. Just for the sake of her beauty.
It will take years before to bloom...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: September 18, 2017, 02:12:24 PM »
Jabuticaba Coroada da Restinga (grafted) in a pot. :)

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