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I sent an email. Iíd like 2x coconut cream, lemon zest ,
Cotton candy, fruit punch and orange sherbet!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Looking for Mango scionwood
« on: September 29, 2021, 10:21:58 AM »
Iím looking for lemon zest, coconut cream and fruit punch scions. Anyone know of a website ther stocks them and ships to ca or anyone interested in selling? Thanks!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What are you growing in riverside?
« on: December 26, 2020, 12:28:38 PM »
Thank you! What do you think is giving you trouble? The wind? Heat? In Fresno we get hotter in summer and far colder in winter and I've been growing them without any issue so far.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What are you growing in riverside?
« on: December 25, 2020, 03:13:32 PM »
Iím moving from Fresno to riverside (on the slopes of box springs mountain by UCR) From Fresno. Iíve been able to grow healthy fruiting mango, avocado etc but I think Riverside will provide much more success.

How much large mangoes are there in riverside? The neighborhood Iíll be moving into has tons of agave attenuata, king palm, and frost sensitive euphorbia that show no winter or summer damage, so I think Iím in a nice frost free location.

Who here is in riverside? Iíd love to connect once I move in!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: COLD HARDY LYCHEES & LONGANS
« on: December 17, 2020, 12:49:53 PM »
I planted a  kohala longan in fresno ca (zone 9b) where we get a ton of chill hours and about 13 frosts a year. It probably got hit by 30 or 31 degrees and suffered no damage. It also took full cloudless, arid, 110 degree sun with no issue.

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You could screw into your chimney and tie wire around for the tendrils to grip. Otherwise they won't be able to support their own weight

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Is this just super prevalent with passion vine or what? I had some ice plant growing at the base of my vine and after pulling the ice plant away a four inch section is flaky/rotted. Same is true on another vine that had no ground cover on it. I live in an arid climate and they donít get overwatered :/

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Quickest producers from seed?
« on: October 21, 2020, 12:27:25 PM »
I've had some papaya fruit within a year but have trouble keeping them healthy in the winter. They seem to develop rot around their leaf scars, but I have some that are a couple years old. Jamaican cherry fruits quickly. I ripped it out of the ground before testing its cold tolerance but it did get frosted leaves at 35 degrees so im not sure if it would have survived - but I wasn't thrilled with the fruit or look of the tree. Ambarella true to its reputation fruited extremely fast.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropic white guava stopped fruiting
« on: October 15, 2020, 11:16:29 AM »
Iíve trimmed the non fruiting one several times (and itís a year older and significantly larger) and have not trimmed the fruiting one

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tropic white guava stopped fruiting
« on: October 14, 2020, 08:02:30 PM »
I got my tropic white guava at Loweís as a 3g. Most of their 3g guavas are flowering in the pot, but this one didnít flower or fruit itís first year. Itís second year it gave me 5 fruits but didnít flower in winter and this year it didnít fruit spring and now no flowers in fall either.

Any idea why this isnít fruiting? A tree that is 1.5 years younger fruited itís first spring, fall, an absolutely massive spring crop this year and is now flowering (for comparison). Their growing conditions are the same. Any thoughts?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Valley, ca thread
« on: September 17, 2020, 07:58:34 PM »













Valencia pride, ice cream and nam doc mai all fruited. All were delicious. My ladyfinger banana also fruited and that was amazing. It was very quick to fruit and already has another flower emerging

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Valley, ca thread
« on: May 28, 2020, 05:08:22 PM »
Yeah, well since changing up my irrigation I felt like I should make sure I donít kill anything In the process so I measured a few of the heads.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Valley, ca thread
« on: May 28, 2020, 10:27:43 AM »
Awesome, whatís stopping you from putting in ground?

Can you guys share your watering cycles? I have inconsistent blooming on my citrus. My mandarin barely put on any fruit this year despite being seriously
Loaded last year. I did prune heavy in winter but otherwise things are the same.

Iím setting up micro spray irrigation and Iím trying to make sure I donít over or under water. My 12x10 avocado is getting approx 150 gallons a week on two separate days. My 7 ft tall mango is getting approx 90 gallons of water a week. What are you guys hear practices? Heavy, clayey loam with thick mulch.

Thanks!

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Thanks but I donít believe it is girdled. The bark has always looked that way and nothing ever damaged it

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DScotM,

The base of the tree looks as though it was slapped by a weedeater.
No weeds! Weed eater has never been in the backyard

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Okay, so perhaps Iím stubborn in trying to get a mango to grow here that was clearly unsuccessful the first time around. But to my defense I didnít know if the first issue was user error or a product of location. The exact same issue occurred previously. A seemingly healthy, young grafted keitt is planted (this time it lasted an entire year), then at the start of summer itís leaves start to droop, itís branches from the growing top downward start wrinkling, and it eventually dies. Upon inspection both trees had tons of either palm roots, privet roots or jasmine roots completely intertwined in its own root ball. I have a healthy seedling growing at the base of another queen so I donít believe itís the queen palm.

Anyway, the jasmines are my neighborís, planted directly behind my mango and the privet is about 40 ft tall planted about 15 feet to its right. Here are some attached photos. Last time this happened I pulled it out and brought it inside, copper fungicide drenched itís roots and then watched it die. What can I do to save it?

Is this too much competition and lack of water? It gets a lot of water but itís area is never soggy.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Second keitt mango dying in same spot
« on: May 22, 2020, 05:40:30 PM »
Okay, so perhaps Iím stubborn in trying to get a mango to grow here that was clearly unsuccessful the first time around. But to my defense I didnít know if the first issue was user error or a product of location. The exact same issue occurred previously. A seemingly healthy, young grafted keitt is planted (this time it lasted an entire year), then at the start of summer itís leaves start to droop, itís branches from the growing top downward start wrinkling, and it eventually dies. Upon inspection both trees had tons of either palm roots, privet roots or jasmine roots completely intertwined in its own root ball. I have a healthy seedling growing at the base of another queen so I donít believe itís the queen palm.

Anyway, the jasmines are my neighborís, planted directly behind my mango and the privet is about 40 ft tall planted about 15 feet to its right. Here are some attached photos. Last time this happened I pulled it out and brought it inside, copper fungicide drenched itís roots and then watched it die. What can I do to save it?

Is this too much competition and lack of water? It gets a lot of water but itís area is never soggy.








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thoughts on PlantOGram
« on: May 13, 2020, 01:07:19 PM »
Sounds like shipping didnít pay care to ďfragile live plantĒ label. Mine came in good shape and have done great. Since they havenít responded just file a complaint with your cc company and youíll get reimbursed through them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Passion fruit trunk rot
« on: May 12, 2020, 12:43:22 PM »




Some mulch fell down against my passion fruit trunk and basically had about 6Ē of worm castings Built up. It has no adverse effects on its appearance yet but there was some decay on the trunk as pictured. I removed as much soft bark as I could. Should I be doing anything to treat it? I figured I may buy a small seedling and inarch graft or is this something that can be self repaired?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Valley, ca thread
« on: May 09, 2020, 11:30:25 AM »
Your climate is the same as we have in Gulf Shores. 

It makes for a beautiful garden variety collection.

The trick to Papayas is large fabric containers.  Add a lot of sand to the mix.  It cannot be overwatered with this setup.
Feel free to share yours as well! I have an aversion to plants in pots. I really, really want them in ground. But that does confirm part of my speculation. I really need to build a sand mound for my papaya.

This climate makes for a beautiful garden. Tropical trees, succulent ground cover, cacti. Makes for a very fun garden.
Tim

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Valley, ca thread
« on: May 09, 2020, 08:43:01 AM »
Impressive! Are you in a more cove location in Bakersfield to have only received low 30s?

I got the Barbados cherry from logees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Valley, ca thread
« on: May 08, 2020, 09:23:21 PM »
Wow impressive! What type of protection measures are you taking? Also what is your absolute low?

Your mangoes have huge trunks! What age are they? Iím very impressed with tour papaya. Mine get as big as yours but many died to root rot. Did you do anything to avoid that? Or do you just have sandy soil? 

You know, the pool may have some increase in humidity but I wouldnít think itís very much. The body of the pool is virtually open air with only some of the queen palm canopy possibly catching some of that evaporation.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Valley, ca thread
« on: May 08, 2020, 04:43:43 PM »
Trung, thatís an impressive list. Please post pictures of your in ground plants. Iíd love to hear your dos and doníts for them.

Monstera deliciosa growing out of a pot and rooted in ground. It only gets the tail end of of the days direct sun.



Dragon fruit growing up queen palm



Planter with (left) nam doc mai, June plum and ice cream mango. These get a plastic tent built around them for the winter. They have overhead protection underneath two queen palm canopies.

My oldest papaya. This guy is a bit over 2 years. Itís been a super slow grower and hasnít fruited although was holding a few before the cold last year. For whatever reason this one hasnít gotten root rot like so many of my others. Close to pool and queen palm canopy is just on the edge of it. South facing

Barbados cherry with pineapples at its feet. Bought this from logees for like 12$ as a tiny start. Itís been through two winters with a frost cloth loosely draped on it. Itís underneath a queen palm.

This is dwarf nam wah. Looks great in full sun, shade, and against a block wall. Handled the winter the best out of all of my bananas and showed no disease or fungus.

Standard tropic white guava. This is one year in the ground - heavy producer . Potted muntingia right beside it

Suebelle white sapote

Kohala longan. Planted in winter. No damage.West facing block wall

Passion vine wall.

Little cado. Seems to be the droopiest out of all my avocados in the heat

Dwarf ladyfinger just dropped its flower today. My most vigorous banana. Grew to this hulking beast from a 3 gallon ft pot at 1.5 ft

Valencia pride mango


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Valley, ca thread
« on: May 06, 2020, 09:38:48 PM »
This is the property I live on, which is at 2200' in Santa Barbara, CA. It is almost always sunny, even during the June gloom, May grey, Fogust that SB gets, so the hours of sunlight my plants receive is pretty ludicrous. It was 80f in SB today, and cranked up to 93f today. We will see several 110+ days this year, so I would say this is indeed more central valley than it is SB Coast. In the winter, it went down to a recorded 26f. Luckily I have a nice micro climate inside the oaks, so when my neighbors are watching things die, my little slice is doing a bit better just a couple hundred feet away they'll be 10F lower!

This area is where I put all my most sensitive plants that can take the heat and sun. It is 10f hotter here, even in the winter. Mangoes, dragonfruits, sapotes, and eugenia area. Especially helpful for seedlings. I ran a frost cloth over top of all the dragonfruits and had string lights in it which kept everything toasty all winter long. No damage or deaths here.



This lower area is the next best for sun and heat, and I yank stuff over below the deck if it's looking really cold. Plums, cherimoyas, pluots, atemoya, guava, pitanga / strawberry combo pot, vanilla ice cream bean, black sapote, raspberry, caviar lime and panache fig



This is the area where I have more sensitive plants and those that don't need a lot of sun. I have a very large sabara jaboticaba that seems to be ready to fruit this year, two grumichamas, cherry of the rio grande, 7 blueberries, a lychee, gooseberries, and a whole lot of seedlings.



Everything is in pots mostly... Since the house isn't mine and I'm just a tenant. Luckily the well water is good stuff!
That climate does certainly sound more like the valley than it does the coast. I always got a bit depressed that sb was so gloomy throughout the year. Itís nice that you get that sweet sunshine but can easily head to town for some cool weather if need be.

I was actually looking at some cheap property in the hills of Santa Barbara, something like 200-300k for a couple acres but it was teeming with red tape. There is some good spots up there.

I'm always looking at the land - and after substantial research, those plots you see in the 200-300k are rife with issues. Stuff over by Conejo Rd is slide-prone. Stuff on the 154 has fire and water issues. The stuff in Rosario Park is nice, but not enough sun and warmth for what I'm looking for.

Just sorta hoping to see just the right piece come up, but inevitably when it does, it's snapped up quick.
Yeah, I can imagine. If the fact that land with several acres for 200k isnít a big red flag enough, when I called one one of them there was a washed out bridge and the new bridge needed to be construction and the land had extremely limited grade. In other words my money would float donít the creek with an oncoming flood haha.

Assuming Santa Barbara doesnít manifest, what other areas have you considered? Oxnard has some relatively cheaper real estate.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Valley, ca thread
« on: May 06, 2020, 08:10:09 PM »
This is the property I live on, which is at 2200' in Santa Barbara, CA. It is almost always sunny, even during the June gloom, May grey, Fogust that SB gets, so the hours of sunlight my plants receive is pretty ludicrous. It was 80f in SB today, and cranked up to 93f today. We will see several 110+ days this year, so I would say this is indeed more central valley than it is SB Coast. In the winter, it went down to a recorded 26f. Luckily I have a nice micro climate inside the oaks, so when my neighbors are watching things die, my little slice is doing a bit better just a couple hundred feet away they'll be 10F lower!

This area is where I put all my most sensitive plants that can take the heat and sun. It is 10f hotter here, even in the winter. Mangoes, dragonfruits, sapotes, and eugenia area. Especially helpful for seedlings. I ran a frost cloth over top of all the dragonfruits and had string lights in it which kept everything toasty all winter long. No damage or deaths here.



This lower area is the next best for sun and heat, and I yank stuff over below the deck if it's looking really cold. Plums, cherimoyas, pluots, atemoya, guava, pitanga / strawberry combo pot, vanilla ice cream bean, black sapote, raspberry, caviar lime and panache fig



This is the area where I have more sensitive plants and those that don't need a lot of sun. I have a very large sabara jaboticaba that seems to be ready to fruit this year, two grumichamas, cherry of the rio grande, 7 blueberries, a lychee, gooseberries, and a whole lot of seedlings.



Everything is in pots mostly... Since the house isn't mine and I'm just a tenant. Luckily the well water is good stuff!
That climate does certainly sound more like the valley than it does the coast. I always got a bit depressed that sb was so gloomy throughout the year. Itís nice that you get that sweet sunshine but can easily head to town for some cool weather if need be.

I was actually looking at some cheap property in the hills of Santa Barbara, something like 200-300k for a couple acres but it was teeming with red tape. There is some good spots up there.

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