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I think selling a species $350+ is equivalent to listing species for $350.  It is still taking advantage of the situation and prices even if it's customer's driving them up. (I've done it too).

Exactly dude. I would never list a seedling or seed for $350. Iíve only always listed for a penny - $15 and let the market decide everything. When I can give species out to the community for cheap, I do it!

Yeah much respect, you've been doing a good job of making a lot of different species available at a fair price. Thanks Kameron!

Jonah, seeing these low seed prices from a reliable seller is probably a good sign that inflation is over.
Buying reliably fresh rare seeds sourced from Brazil for cheap is all that we have been waiting for. Thank you BellamyTrees!

Same seller as the $350 seed.

I remember when eugenia langsdorffii once came in the seed sold for $350 on ebay
Now it's $6
How the times have changed!
Glad I didn't put in my order yet!
Once again, shoutout to a great seller!

I think it's moreso that the seed buyers that are willing to spend the money on a hype seeds got theres and the more general market is only capable/interested in paying a more "reasonable" price.  It was an artificially inflated market IMO. i sold a seedling for 500$. It's all about hype, honestly.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: July 27, 2022, 07:30:34 PM »
Yessiree, m californica

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: July 26, 2022, 09:58:33 PM »
I just put manure down around most of my orchard and uncaged the Yangmeis for a bit to put some poo on em, they sure are looking good!
Took a picture of the Crystal that I had grafted up, it's grown quite a bit.  They really explode when they get in the ground. This tree is planted right where I had done a big burn pile earlier in the year.

I've shipped out a couple hundred orders with the same method and only had a couple of problems early on in when I was first getting things figured out.  I put a piece of packing paper in the pot, wrap it with plastic wrap leaving the plant sticking out, to ensure that there is no soil movement and the plant is able to breathe.  I then take a 24" corrugated cardboard roll and tape the plants with one piece to the inside of the roll, on the edge, and roll them up to make a rigid 24" tube with plants inside.  I then take that roll and put it in a 24" long box that is very durable.  The key is really to make sure your package is "rigid" through and through. The less movement going on inside the box, the better the plant will fare. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit party?
« on: July 24, 2022, 01:00:31 AM »
don't feed the trolls

cool story bro

Why bother posting this jive. You got your refund. Move on. As they say --- Don't sweat the small stuff. Shouldn't you be out protesting global warming, AK-47s, Obama's two beach mansions (Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard) or something like that? Anyways>>>>>

In the words of Zands, why bother posting this stuff, Zands? Classic troll zands

Hmm sounds like you might have a pressure issue. Are you overloading the distribution line with flow from other sprinklers? I don't think water hammer is an issue because it sounds like you are still getting some flow.  Do you have a filter and pressure reducer on your line?

I have around 400 or so emitters and very rarely have any issues with clogs or heads popping off.  Pretty stoked with the netafim supernets. I'm on well water too and don't have major issues, I'm sure I will at some point though. 

You are well within your right to ask for a refund and the expectation to send the plant back is unrealistic.  Sorry that happened to you. Ultimately there are much better options than the "bamboo stick method" IMO.

Yeah I know what you mean. The prices that people get on ebay make it ever so tempting to give in and list on there. I like being able to provide a service that allows people to buy plants at a reasonable price and also like being able to build my brand.  I want my website and store to be a place where people can learn and share information.  I also don't want to deal with the consistent listing on ebay as well as giving them a percentage of the income.  It's definitely a trade off! Best of luck with your sales W.!

I've been selling plants for 35$ that sell for 300$ on Bellamys ebay auctions...haha. I think it's all about visibility or something.

Yes! Interested in all of the above. Thank you!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lucuma vs Canistel morphology.
« on: July 10, 2022, 10:59:40 PM »
It describes the key morphological characteristics that distinguish the two species. If you go through to the key itself you can find distinct descriptions of each species. The first line of each indicates that the new growth on each species is distinct and different.  P. campechiana, "
Tree; young shoots finely sericeous, soon gla- brous,greyish-brown, finelycracked,lenticellate"

P. lucuma "young shoots puberulous to shortly pu- bescent, becoming glabrous, pale grey-brown, slightly roughened and scaling, lenticellate or not."

They are definitely very similar species and very closely related, which is why  they are in the same section.  This map even is a good representative of the distributions which is fun to ponder their evolutionary histories and the reason they are distinct species.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lucuma vs Canistel morphology.
« on: July 10, 2022, 03:29:43 PM »
Found a key online that indicates the morphological differences between the two.
Here's a small section from the Section Rivicoa of which P. lucuma and P. campechiana are both in.

Page 376
The key can be found here.

Brad, have you had experience with netafim supernet?  I am rocking the Netafim supernet Purple SRD which have a 6 foot radius and flow at 5.3GPH, but can be modified to a 9 foot radius by breaking off the deflector.  Pretty happy with them so far, minus the experience of ordering them haha.

What I've learned in irrigation classes as well as gleaned from the guys at the irrigation supply stores in my area is to avoid having emitters with different flow rates on the same line.  Ultimately it won't necessarily do anything bad, it just means you will have to take into account the different flow rates and length of time for watering for the different emitters. 

Also, it's nice to have the system connect back to itself instead of dead ending. It helps to equalize pressure throughout the system.

Are these on different zones or are you planning on having it be one zone overall?

Getting everything on irrigation is such a game changer! Regular consistent watering has definitely brought so much amazing growth with all my in ground plants.

The struggle is real! I'm starting to wonder if the moist type is a myth! haha.  I have heard that there are some people in Southern California that have a moist type, but connecting with them seems to be difficult.  Thanks for the reports on all the phenotypes that you have, love hearing about others experiences with this species.

Updated listings and big sale going on at the online nursery! Thanks for the support everyone!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: July 04, 2022, 04:01:15 PM »
Does anyone in the Bay area know about this partnership yang-mei grower?
Seems like they have varieties that are not originally from China?

I'm pretty sure they've just renamed those varieties for the market here

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Davidson Plum in Florida
« on: July 04, 2022, 10:18:57 AM »
I am growing both D pruriens and D jerseyana in santa cruz California. D. Jerseyana has no problem in my climate. I haven't grown d. Pruriens outdoors here yet but I'm optimistic it will do well.

I sell seedlings of both on my website, d jerseyana is not in season right now though

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Battle against whiteflies
« on: July 01, 2022, 09:42:01 AM »
I move my plants with white fly outdoors from my hoop house and that seems to resolve my issue most of the time.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: June 30, 2022, 11:47:21 PM »
Yeah I'm honestly not sure. It seems like it's just such a hardwood species with thin cambium that it's just going to lend itself to be difficult to graft.  Would love to hear other's thoughts and experiences on the matter.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: June 30, 2022, 11:05:57 PM »
Probably around 40-50% takes.

I had one that took but after I unwrapped it and went to plant it a couple days later it snapped off the union. It had only healed in one small section, about a mm or two.  They certainly are difficult to graft.

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