The Citrus I have

[Skandiberg]

The presence of the acidless Siamese gene makes Valentine a valuable crossing partner for any acid Citrus.
Hybrid or not, I guess it's still zygotic to a good degree. And its hardiness isn't bad, I recall Frank had some young seedlings that survived quite some cold a while back. He posted about them in his thread. My only concern about it is its late ripening.

If your yuzu keeps flowering this year, you can do yuzu x Valentine and Valentine x yuzu, too. It would make perfect sense, and red flesh could also be possible.

Good idea about those red crosses! Carolina lime seedlings have a diverse look so I guess it's zygotic enough. Meyer is also highly usable as a seed partner.

Yes, red flesh is said to be the result of cool nights and warm days.

[cascadiacitrus]

Yes I’ll try the valentine cross! Might have to be Yuzu x Valentine unless the valentine flowers again during or after the Yuzu flowers but if I can I’ll try both ways.

[Skandiberg]

I had some throat issues and I didn't want to torture myself with acidic fruits. But it seems I recovered so I'm going on with fruit reviews.

Shunko kan (Brix 9, 20 seeds)








First of all, I must apologize: I forgot to take a picture of the cross section. But I have one more fruit, I will try to remember when we eat that one.

The rind peels easily. The fragrance is dominantly limey. The zest tastes a little bitter, limey, the pith is thin, spongy and neutral. Eaten together, I don't think I will want to eat it again. It's not inedible but not pleasant enough to justify dealing with it.

Flesh colour is a pale yellow, just like a white pomelo. But this one is quite juicy. You get nothing of the solid, stiff vesicles of pomelo here, the flesh is much more tender. Taste is very good. It's sweet. Not very sweet but the mild acidity will provide a dominantly sweet flavour. It's not insipid though. It has some acidity, just enough for me to find this a very pleasant tasting fruit. Refreshing. It has a mixed aroma of 'sweet lemonade' (like Keraji) and a mild pomelo. I think the sugar-acid ratio is similar to what you find in an average Satsuma. It's definitely among the milder Citrus.

However there is one problem. The membranes among the segments are very thick and rubbery. Not easy to chew, I got tired of it and spit it out. I think I will squeeze the second fruit and enjoy just the juice without the hassle. But maybe I will try to remove those mebranes first. The problem is you can do that easily with a pure pomelo because that has firm texture but this one is more tender.

All in all, a very pleasant tasting fruit. I wish it was easier to eat.

[a_Vivaldi]

Isn't shunkokan supposed to be sweet?

[Skandiberg]

It's supposed to be sweet and it is sweet. Your question made me curious so I searched for descriptions and the mild sweet lemonade-pomelo taste I had experienced is in line with what I read elsewhere.

[JSea]

Thanks Skandiberg for the taste report! I expected that the albedo wouldn't be very tasty and sure enough you have confirmed that.
Shunkokan sounds a lot like Kinkoji from the taste review so far. Maybe they are very similar crosses.

From memory, a lot of the pomelo ancestors of the Japanese Citrus varieties are unknown. The mandarin ancestors are well known though.

[Skandiberg]

I think I discovered another zygotic N30 x Bajusz hybrid. It also appears to have a small single preleaf on the stem:





I checked and this fruit had 3 greener seeds. That probably means the now three seedlings with PT style preleaves, the one with a random bifoliate leaf must be a nucellar N30 seedling that just threw a strange leaf. That one shows no other sign of PT influence apart from that leaf at this point. Nevertheless, I will keep that one, too. Just in case.

[Skandiberg]

Thanks Skandiberg for the taste report! I expected that the albedo wouldn't be very tasty and sure enough you have confirmed that.
Shunkokan sounds a lot like Kinkoji from the taste review so far. Maybe they are very similar crosses.

From memory, a lot of the pomelo ancestors of the Japanese Citrus varieties are unknown. The mandarin ancestors are well known though.

You're welcome! I can't comment on Kinkoji, I have never tried that.

[Skandiberg]

Further fruit reviews.

Please note these fruits have stood 2 weeks since they arrived. That means some of them are a little overripe, or even past their prime.













Pursha Brix 9; 9 seeds



Pleasant sweet lemonade taste, descibed before.


Ortanique Brix 10; 0 seeds



It was very sweet and quite sour two weeks ago. Now a lot milder, still very pleasant. My personal taste is sweet and not too acidic. This one fits the bill now.


Moro Brix 12; 1 lazy seed



It feels very similar to what I remember from 2 weeks ago. Maybe a tad less acidic but still a very good fruit.


Arcobal Brix 8,5; 6 seeds



These two weeks improved its edibility a lot. Now I feel I could eat this fruit easily. Its acidity is ideal now. Just sweet enough, acidic enough, I like it now. It has some notes I still can't identify. Its aroma is mainly lemonlike but blood orange is also present. Very juicy.


Moro de los Valles (Violettes des Vallées?) Brix 8; 5 seeds



Absolutely beautiful fruit.
It has a sourer smell, like freshly squeezed orange juice.
Nice flavour, a little less acidic than I anticipated. Not too sweet. It has a nice taste but it's not really intense. A fairly neutral fruit. Very juicy.


Tarocco Lempso Brix 10,5; 2 empty seeds

I will try to add a picture later.  ☹️

This has a more classic blood orange smell. The taste is absolutely spectacular, I detect raspberry in spades. Also milder than expected, leaving a sweet overall taste. Very good. Very juicy.


Webber tangelo Brix 11; 4 seeds



Very-very juicy. Absolutely wonderful. It lost some acidity and now it's a really good fruit for my taste. Sweet enough, it has a sweet lemonade-pomelo taste. Milder than before but not insipid at all. I could eat a box of this. I love it.


Minneola Brix 9; 5 seeds



Dominantly orange smell.
Very good taste, very juicy. It's like an exotic orange. Good balance of sweet and acid. My wife ate a fruit two weeks ago, she said that was sour, she didn't like it but this one is good. Refreshing, nice flavour with enough interesting notes to be regarded higher than a regular sweet orange.


Amoa 8 Brix 13; 1 good seed and some tiny aborted ones

I will try to add a picture later. ☹️

It has a mandarin aroma with a hint of blood orange, very nice scent. Radically different from the blood oranges. When I looked in the Brix meter, the white part was pink. Very intense colour.
Very sweet. Not overly juicy now but the flavour makes up for it. It has honey notes. I love it. Sweet and mild.


Tarocco Hipolito Brix 9; no seeds



It's really juicy and tender. The intense scent hit me in the face when I opened it up. It's like the orange scented effervescent vitamin tablets but not in a bad way. It smells pleasant.
Very sweet, very juicy, very tender, very good. I love it. Mild in a pleasant way. These Tarocco strains are magical.

[cascadiacitrus]

Nice fruit reviews! Minneola is my favourite. I must have bought over 100 fruit already this season. I’m looking forward to trying the Amoa 8